Bad reaction to epidural

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ekkorose
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   Posted 3/25/2009 8:57 AM (GMT -7)   
Hi there everyone.
 
I have had a bad reaction to the steriods used in my epidural (heart palps, SOB and a freaky episode of extreme depression) and now I am cancelling the next two shots. I am quite worried that my PM with be upset with me. I have an appt with a cardiologist today and then an appt with him next Tuesday. I am hoping the cardiologist can confirm the heart issues are related to the steriods but what if he can't?  It has to be because of that because everytime I have had steriods my heart has gone wonky but the depression was a new one for me. I had never been that sad in my life. I was even thinking about taking the big sleep and that is sooo not like me.
 
Anyways...just kinda need some assurance that it will be ok and that I won't get fired as a patient. Another worry is I don't know what else he will do for the pain in my neck. It is getting worse just about every day and the epi only bought me about a week then it came back and is making up for lost time!
 
Wells thanks for listening (reading) to me whine and vent.
 
Take care,
Sarrah

Hysterectomy at 25

4 laproscopic surgeries since 24

Cervical stenosis in C3 & C4

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Supplements : calcium : magenesium :potassium : milk thistle : fish oil : B complex : vit E

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In the United States today, there is a pervasive tendency to treat children as adults, and adults as children. The options of children are thus steadily expanded, while those of adults are progressively constricted. The result is unruly children and childish adults. ~Thomas Szasz 


Tirzah
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   Posted 3/25/2009 10:18 AM (GMT -7)   
Sarrah,
I think epidurals usually only last for a week or so. I'm not sure whether or not an epidural can cause those symptoms that you listed, but regardless of the cause, your PM should be made aware of what symptoms you are experiencing. If you are generally compliant & don't refuse all non-drug treatments, I would say that it is pretty unlikely that you will be "fired". Usually, from what I have seen & heard, the patients who get kicked from clinics are the ones who are always saying that the only thing that helps at all is medication. It is pretty rare that no relief at all could be achieved from any other treatment method (even if they don't help as much as medication, some other methods should offer some relief).

Since you are not having the problems right now, it is possible that the cardiologist won't be able to confirm anything. Still, unless you are refusing all non-drug treatments, I can't see you getting kicked from the clinic. If you are otherwise compliant with what your doc is recommending, I would say he would have to be really quite unreasonable to kick you out over this. Call the PM's office now & let him know you don't want to go through with the epidurals but would like to see him to discuss other treatment options. If the cardiologist finds out anything, you can share that with your PM on Tuesday. If not, perhaps it will be a medical mystery, but people refuse certain treatments for much less than that so I would say there's no need for you to worry.

best wishes,
frances

PAlady
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   Posted 3/25/2009 12:47 PM (GMT -7)   
Sarrah,
I think Frances has offered some good advice. The one thing I wouldn't do is cancel your follow up with the pm (the in-office appointment, not the next injection) so you can discuss the reaction you had. Also, could this possibly be anxiety related - like a panic attack? That could create many of the symptoms, especially if you're anticipating them.

I'm not saying it's all in your head!! Just that the adrenalin from a panic attack does make your heart beat faster. But maybe it's also the meds - I don't know if what was injected could cause these symptoms. You might want to ask your pm's office to fax a copy of what meds you received in the injection to the cardiologist so he/she knows what was put into your system and could tell you right then if it's due to the meds. Just a thought.

PaLady

ekkorose
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   Posted 3/25/2009 1:37 PM (GMT -7)   
I already have an appt to talk to the PM about my reactions and I am very open to any non-drug options he has. I have a TENS unit, go to PT 2x per week and if the steriods are not the cause and my ticker is ok, I will gladly do another injection but if the symptoms come back after the 2nd one then I won't do any more EVER.

The cardiologist could feel the random beats of my heart and I get set up with a holtier monitor tomorrow! He said that steriods can sap the potassium and that can cause the heart to beat irratcally so we are also do blood work to see if that is a problem.

I am hoping all this is enough but so many docs are so darn scared of the DEA that I don't know what will happen when I see him Tuesday.

Hysterectomy at 25

4 laproscopic surgeries since 24

Cervical stenosis in C3 & C4

_____________________________________________

 

Meds - percocet  3x day : nexium : xanax :

Supplements : calcium : magenesium :potassium : milk thistle : fish oil : B complex : vit E

____________________________________________

In the United States today, there is a pervasive tendency to treat children as adults, and adults as children. The options of children are thus steadily expanded, while those of adults are progressively constricted. The result is unruly children and childish adults. ~Thomas Szasz 


Jules22871
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   Posted 3/25/2009 1:40 PM (GMT -7)   
I am so sorry that you had such an awful experience. I can't relate to it since I haven't had to deal with it but I do feel for you. Like PaLady said, unless you are a non-compliant patient all the way around I doubt your PM doc will cut you off. Make sure that he knows what has happened though. I would go ahead and call him and let them know before your visit just to make sure he knows that you are being upfront with him. I wish you the best!

Jules
Motorcycle wreck 08/2004: 119 fx, 13 surgeries with more to go, including 5 bone grafts, 2 skin grafts, pelvic reconstruction x2. Right leg is 1.5" shorter than left. Have to wear knee brace for life and also AFO brace for drop foot. Nerve damage from hip down to toes, nerve pain in lower leg. Spinal fusion. Will be on crutches the rest of my life. Pain level never below 5 even on pain meds. Since August 2007 I have been diagnosed with chronic atelactesis, tachycardia, high blood pressure, borderline personality disorder, depression and Delayed sleep phase syndrome


PAlady
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   Posted 3/25/2009 3:08 PM (GMT -7)   
Sarrah,
If your cardiologist has told you about the steroid/potassium connection, then you could tell your pm that - or call your pm's office and give that info. I don't know if your pm and cardiologist are sharing info yet. (I find even when they say they are, lots gets lost with fax machines, things never being faxed, etc.).

I didn't know about the potassium connection with steroids. I've had tons of epidurals, etc. We really should be told more about what's being injected into us.

PaLady

ekkorose
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   Posted 3/26/2009 3:29 PM (GMT -7)   
Looks like my potassium is ok but I have my holtier on until 4pm tomorrow..over 24hrs with out hot water to soothe my neck...no bueno!

I really hope they find out what is causing the heart to act all funky cause I am finally losing weight (13lbs to date) and I really want to start working out what little I can!!

Hysterectomy at 25

4 laproscopic surgeries since 24

Cervical stenosis in C3 & C4

_____________________________________________

 

Meds - percocet  3x day : nexium : xanax :

Supplements : calcium : magenesium :potassium : milk thistle : fish oil : B complex : vit E

____________________________________________

In the United States today, there is a pervasive tendency to treat children as adults, and adults as children. The options of children are thus steadily expanded, while those of adults are progressively constricted. The result is unruly children and childish adults. ~Thomas Szasz 


Chartreux
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   Posted 3/26/2009 5:15 PM (GMT -7)   
Sarrah,
Sorry your having a rough time of it, sure hope your heart beats gets back in control, I had an
asthmatic reaction to certain steriod injections, in the recovery room, lucky I had my rescue inhaler..
So for me they have to use either prednisone or no steroids, your PM Doc should not get upset with you
as you've been following all his proto calls, and they can always do non steroid injections or just ask about
Radio Frequency Ablation procedure, if you've not had that yet...There are always more procedures so,
don't freak out yet, try to stay calm as it'll help you, what about using a heat pad for your neck, just roll it up
and place it behnd your neck, might help...\
Hope this makes sense and hope your feeling better soon..
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skeye
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   Posted 3/26/2009 9:21 PM (GMT -7)   
(((((((((((Sarrah)))))))))). I hope you find out the cause of your heart problems soon & are able to fix it! It is terrifying, being told, or knowing that something is wrong with your heart! There was one time when I was pretty young when I had to go to the ER because I was having severe chest pain (I couldn't even sit up straight, and every bump in the car ride over to the ER was pure torture). They thought that I might be having a heart attack, but the EKG was okay. It turns out that it was just a really nasty muscle injury from swimming that just happened to be right over my heart & within a couple of days it was much better. But I just remember being so scared & confused, so I can only imagine what you are going through! I'm praying that you get some answers!

Skeye

Morgoth
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   Posted 3/27/2009 12:33 AM (GMT -7)   
Epidurals can sometimes backfire. This doesn't mean they always do. In my case they went wrong in about one third of the cases. I shouldn't give up on this one just like that. Try another one and see what happens. You already went through the worst part and now the initial scare is over; you'll be better prepared next time. If they work, depending on the dosage and composition of the medication, an epidural can last up to six months (not steroids though). But even if they can provide relief for a couple of months or even weeks you should consider them, even if you know a certain percentage might fail.
To stand and be still at the Birkenhead Drill is a mighty bullet to shew.


White Beard
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   Posted 3/27/2009 5:04 PM (GMT -7)   
Sarah steriods can can have emotional affects on a person, I cry like a baby when I am on them! That is just how they affect me! Some people have other problems with them! I know for me epidurals are a waste of time, because of the cost verse the amount of relief I get! Three weeks is the max relief I have ever had from them, so I don't get them much any more, now if it was 3 months or more then it would be OK. Anyway your pain doctor shouldn't be upset with you for not wanting the epidurals, heck if they cause you problems, then it's not worth it! Especially if it is messing up you heart! But talk to you Pain Doctor about it.

Good Luck to You
White Beard
 

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