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PAlady
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   Posted 3/28/2009 12:15 AM (GMT -7)   
Hi, friends,
It's 3am and I'm still up. In a little bit I can take another dose of meds. Having a bad day & night. Had a PT session yesterday. I only have a few left, and use them for relief when things get bad, but my PT decided to show me a couple of exercises to strengthen my legs. I shouldn't have mentioned that I noticed how weak my legs were getting!

After my session I went to the Humane Society to visit my two little cat friends (well, they're not so little), who instead of being in the manager's office are now in one of the little cage enclosures. I nearly cried to see them cooped up there, but the manager wants people to see them so they have a chance of adoption. I played with them awhile in a little room, but there are only folding chairs and a cement floor, so any good from my PT session was wiped out. Then today I tried to clean out just a couple of things - like a few pairs of shoes and I mean that's all - from my closet floor. I was on my hands and knees. No heavy lifting, but you all know it doesn't take much. So the muscles in my back and hip are aching. Been putting cream and heat on them which helps, but then it wears off.

I'm just hurting and angry because I would love to take those cats home. They've been abused, though, and they tend to hide. I can hardly even touch one of them, because he's scared of people. So to brush him or clip his nails or anything I'd have to be moving furniture around to find him. They're not small cats either. Just one more thing I feel CP is robbing me of. I'm going to focus on visiting them, and trying to see if I can think of anyone who could provide them a good home. But they need to go together. The manager is requiring it and I understand why. The one is so protective of the other; I suspect the bigger one saved his brother's life.

Oh, well, I just needed to vent a bit. Cry. Hurt. And vent some anger although I'm too tired to really vent it all!

i hope some of you are having a restful night!

PaLady sad

Jules22871
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   Posted 3/28/2009 12:27 AM (GMT -7)   
I am so sorry to hear that you are having such a bad night. I really hate the bad night time pain. It seems to go on forever. Hopefully you will get at least some relief when you get to take your next dose.
Motorcycle wreck 08/2004: 119 fx, 13 surgeries with more to go, including 5 bone grafts, 2 skin grafts, pelvic reconstruction x2. Right leg is 1.5" shorter than left. Have to wear knee brace for life and also AFO brace for drop foot. Nerve damage from hip down to toes, nerve pain in lower leg. Spinal fusion. Will be on crutches the rest of my life. Pain level never below 5 even on pain meds. Since August 2007 I have been diagnosed with chronic atelactesis, tachycardia, high blood pressure, borderline personality disorder, depression and Delayed sleep phase syndrome


PAlady
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   Posted 3/28/2009 1:15 AM (GMT -7)   
Thanks, stillrecovering. Meds. don't seem to want to kick in tonight. Not sure why as usually I at least get groggy. I think it's time to apply more cream and heat. On top of the pain I'm increasingly getting heartburn at night. And I haven't even eaten anything spicey!

Oh, well, off to try to find some mindless tv to help me get groggy.

Hope you have sweet dreams and not Garcia hallucinations!

PaLady

Scarred_for_life
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   Posted 3/28/2009 2:53 AM (GMT -7)   
Hi PA. I'm sorry you are having a bad night. You're not alone in this and I wanted you to know this. I too am having a horrible night! The stupid weather is killing me! My knees hurt (I have arthritis in both knees from multiple surgeries)......my back feels like a tank ran me over......my legs are hurting so bad I think the muscles are going to pop out of my body! It's this snow that decided to dump on us that is causing most of my problems (with the exception of my legs, they always are in pain cause of the nerves).

Hugs to you PA

Scarred
What doesn't kill us only makes us fight back harder! :P


edt
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   Posted 3/28/2009 7:39 AM (GMT -7)   
Hi PALady and Scarred, stillrecovering
I am sooooo sorry to hear I am not alone in my misery......I wish I would have come on line, I too have been having a rough last week. Yesterday was the worst, took my meds went to bed, hoping for relief and was still up at midnight, I didn't think anything could be as bad as yesterday ha...finally gave up and got up at 3am. Played the heat/ice game, did some PT exercises...my meds aren't helping either.....owwwwwwie is all I have to say.
Our weather is gorgeous, so I can't really blame it on that!
I am sending you some warm sunny thoughts hoping it gives all of us some relief!
XXOO
Patti

ryand
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   Posted 3/28/2009 8:25 AM (GMT -7)   
(((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((PaLady)))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))

Oh, my friend, how I wish I could get those little kitties for you. It strikes me that the smaller of those kitties seems a lot like many of us. Hurt and scared, having a hard time trusting because in the past it has found more pain where it should have found safety and relief. And in a sense, we are all looking for that other kitten in this world of CP. Especially I think those of us who are alone. All we want is just someone to protect us a bit. Someone or something to keep the pain at bay and make sure we don't get hurt any more. Someone to be there for us when we are having these terrible nights.

I am so sorry to see that you had a bad night. I wish I could make the pain go away for you and make sure you don't get hurt any more. I wish I could be there to give you a real life hug and bring you a kitty to snuggle. I hope by now your meds have started to do their job and that you are getting some good recuperative sleep.

Ry

Tony McGuire
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   Posted 3/28/2009 10:42 AM (GMT -7)   
Well, I WAS doing OK.

That is, until some friends started yacking it up around midnight. Then I would just about get to sleep, and another would chime in an hour or so later.
This kept up until after 8am; one friend after another chiming in and all the while causing me to lose no end of sleep.

So, I finally decided to crawl out from under the desk next to the computer. A lot quieter now. Nighty Night.
Wife: Liz
Dogs: Koshka & Chomp


Tony McGuire
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   Posted 3/28/2009 11:09 AM (GMT -7)   
P.S. I, too, am sorry to hear when you guys have nightime pain and can't get to sleep.

I use to face this constantly, until my Pain Management doctor found a Methadone/Morphine combination that, on top of the Lyrica/Cymbalta, has killed my nighttime pain all but VERY occassionally. Maybe once or twice in a week's time other than rarely.

On the heartburn front, it could be your meds causing the issue. Or you could have damage from reflux. Talk to your doctor about it. I just went thru this, got an upper GI and the issue was obvious immediately. With a couple of pills a day it is going away rapidly and smoothly.

Even if it doesn't continue to bother you (mine was intermittent), I would bring it up to your PCP since as you say you didn't eat stuff that would normally bother your stomach. I wouldn't be surprised if it was the additional stress that could have kicked it off.

Hopefully you've gotten a full night of sleep by now, and your aches and pains are gone gone gone.

(Edit: added 'a day' to 'with a couple of pills..')
Wife: Liz
Dogs: Koshka & Chomp

Post Edited (TonyMcGuire) : 3/28/2009 12:13:12 PM (GMT-6)


Tirzah
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   Posted 3/28/2009 12:07 PM (GMT -7)   
PA-
So sorry to hear you are struggling. I know you really want to stay with your current insurance, but I'm wondering whether at this point it might just be better to apply for medicaid. Is there something in particular that's holding you back? Maybe we could try to help with that.

I was just thinking how in an ideal situation you would be able to get more pain meds & more PT so that you could get your muscles stronger. I understand that PT sucks -- it is massively painful & to be avoided at all costs. ;) However, as angry as I get at it, it really does help lessen the pain over time. But it takes a lot of consistency & hard work and that is absolutely impossible to do unless the pain is very well controlled. I just hate that you are in so much pain & with your muscles getting weaker it could get worse. I think if there is anything that can be somehow worked out so you can get more treatment that would be best, but I definitely know how insanely difficult that can be.

I did get a few doses of my Actiq the other day & I just got my tax refund (woo hoo!) so I can now afford my medications, at least for a little while. I'm being greedy this year & so my PM gets a little money & the pharmacy gets the rest and none of the other creditors get anything. HA! I figure if I'm going down into foreclosure & bankruptcy anyways that I may as well have some medication. :) Oh, what a warped little world we live in!
But at least that will let me keep up with my PT & go job hunting -- who knows, maybe I will land a job & then all this will be moot. There are 4 job fairs this week, so I'm strapping on my back brace, packing up a cushion & preparing to sit out in the snow for hours on end with all the other crazed job hunters. hee, hee, hee

Perhaps we should make a cartoon strip out of all our crazy ventures. We'll call it the Golden Goose Gals & I'll draw you with a lasso trying to catch one of the sneaky little kitties & me with a giant brace flying through the air, resumes in hand. And we can't forget Goosey. Personally, I think we ought to just sic him on the lawmakers. He can honk & peck at them until they start writing better laws that actually help people. All proceeds from the comic will be used to purchase special grain to feed our goose. You, the cats & I can eat off the money gained from selling the golden eggs. :)

feel better,
((((soft hugs))))
frances

PAlady
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   Posted 3/28/2009 12:53 PM (GMT -7)   
Thanks, everyone! I'm truly sorry I had so much company last night!

Ryand - I think your analogy about the abused cat and us with CP is probably more accurate than we'd all like to believe. How many times do we want to hide under a chair and hiss at the world??

BTW Frances, it will be much worse once I don't have this private insurance anymore. There are no PT sessions on Medicaid! And I've had lots of PT over the decades, enough to know what helps me and what doesn't. I think my PT was just trying to be helpful. It's a huge difference that I think I'm twice your age. I need to go at my own pace with this, but there are some things that aren't going to get stronger or better. That's part of the acceptance piece of all this, but that belongs on another thread!

Let's hope everyone has a better night tonight...

PaLady

White Beard
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   Posted 3/28/2009 1:32 PM (GMT -7)   
We all have nights like that PaLady, and they are not very much fun either. Maybe I have missed something in one of your post, but PaLady have you applied for SSD? I was just wondering as medicaid in most states is usually not near as good. I don't mean to pry or anything but I was a little currious about that!
I do wish you all the best!

White Beard
 

I'm Retired USAF, went back to school and became an RN, and now am on ful disalbility!

Degenerative Disc (affecting mostly the thorasic disc but all levels involved), C6/7 laminectomy/diskectomy& fusion, Osteoarthritis, Ulcerative colitis, Chronic Pain, Fibromyalgia, Complex Sleep Apnea, and host of other things to spice up my life!(NOT!)

Medications: Oxycontin, Percocet, Baclofen, Sulfasalazine, Metoprolol, Folic Acid, Supplemental O2 at 3lpm with VPAP Adapt SV


PAlady
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   Posted 3/28/2009 1:36 PM (GMT -7)   
smilewinkgrin

Post Edited (PAlady) : 3/31/2009 6:23:01 PM (GMT-6)


White Beard
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   Posted 3/28/2009 2:00 PM (GMT -7)   
No your right PaLady it isn't that easy! You know of all the jobs I have had, I was in Photograpy, Flight Simulators, and Data Processing while I was in the Air Force. But after I retired I went to Nursing School and got my RN, it is the only job I have ever had that I can say I Love it, I haven't worked in it in quite sometime now, but I still get all the nursing magazines and try to keep up on everything, heck I even keep my License up to date, because by not doing that I have let go, and I, like you, I'm not ready to do that! Not quite yet anyway! So Yes PaLady I do understand, but from your post I also worry about what your future might hold. Medicaid scares me, at least in Illinois, it is not good, that is where I live, and from what other people say from other states it is pretty much the same.....So.....

Anyway I am concerned and I do care

White Beard
 

I'm Retired USAF, went back to school and became an RN, and now am on ful disalbility!

Degenerative Disc (affecting mostly the thorasic disc but all levels involved), C6/7 laminectomy/diskectomy& fusion, Osteoarthritis, Ulcerative colitis, Chronic Pain, Fibromyalgia, Complex Sleep Apnea, and host of other things to spice up my life!(NOT!)

Medications: Oxycontin, Percocet, Baclofen, Sulfasalazine, Metoprolol, Folic Acid, Supplemental O2 at 3lpm with VPAP Adapt SV


PAlady
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   Posted 3/28/2009 2:28 PM (GMT -7)   
White Beard,
Thanks - you do understand, I know. I'm keeping my license active, too, and I still work a couple of hours (literally) a week. I believe with SSD you can still earn a small amount, so I'd like to see if I'll be able to do that. Of course, finding that kind of opportunity - even if I physically could do it - would probably be like picking a needle out of a haystack. I mean i can't stand much, can't sit long, and then there's the effect of those wondreful meds on our thinking! The latter I think it what's probably going to keep me from doing what I'd like to do. Even to teach a course part time, I don't know how fatherjohn does it. Reading papers, standing in front of a classroom every day, etc, etc, Hats off to him!

Anyway, the Medicaid issue - well, it will only be for a time limited situation. I'm nearly 60 so I don't think I'll have as much trouble getting SSD as many younger people do (not that age should be the criteria!), but even if it takes a year or so, then I should be able to get Medicare. I will probably try to get my doctors to go back to the date of my surgery for SSD, because it's not really a lie (they said well, nerves can take up to 2 years to heal...and it's been 18 months and no imrovement so the writing is really on the wall but I don't want to read it), anyway, that should mean I wouldn't have much if any of a wait for Medicare. Thing is, none of us know how all these programs are going to get changed. That's the scariest thing for all of us.

I really won't have any choice about the Medicaid as a temporary measure. My cousin is paying my COBRA, but once that ends affording the total cost of the policy is out of the question. As it is it's about $350 a month, and she's struggling to do that for me. So, it is what it is.

Of course I'm not in Illinois and I do wonder what goes on in that state from everything Frances has said!!! LOL (although it's not so funny - read her post about the 10K of jewelry!)

PaLady

White Beard
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   Posted 3/28/2009 3:34 PM (GMT -7)   
PaALady
This state (Illinois) amazes me! I just wrote a whole paragraph about what was going on, and then went back and looked at the rules, and desided to delete it all! I have been watching Frances thread and she is right it is a mess here!
 
I do understand how you feel PaLady, and it is a heart breaker!
Your right there is on "Magic Wand!"
Please!  Do take care of yourself!
 
White Beard
 

I'm Retired USAF, went back to school and became an RN, and now am on ful disalbility!

Degenerative Disc (affecting mostly the thorasic disc but all levels involved), C6/7 laminectomy/diskectomy& fusion, Osteoarthritis, Ulcerative colitis, Chronic Pain, Fibromyalgia, Complex Sleep Apnea, and host of other things to spice up my life!(NOT!)

Medications: Oxycontin, Percocet, Baclofen, Sulfasalazine, Metoprolol, Folic Acid, Supplemental O2 at 3lpm with VPAP Adapt SV


Tony McGuire
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   Posted 3/28/2009 4:21 PM (GMT -7)   
I'm in the process of applying for SSD. I've been told so many different stories that I worry some of them are right.

As for Medicare, I was told it doesn't kick until 1 year after SSD kicks in.
Social Security Retirement, I was told, is about 1/3 LESS than Social Security Disability.
DON'T TRUST WHAT SOCIAL SECURITY TELLS YOU. The guy I am working with told me I could not earn any money - not a penny. And could not even TRY to make any money. All False. So INVESTIGATE to find out what your positives and negatives are, and what your restrictions ACTUALLY are not necessarily what they just tell you.

Frances - it sounds like drawing/painting is a love. Do you have anything on the Internet we can see? (If not and you'd like some space to send people to, let me know and I can set you up.) Maybe your love could become your salvation moneywise [somehow, but don't ask me how].

Sorry for the long post.
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Dogs: Koshka & Chomp


White Beard
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   Posted 3/28/2009 6:49 PM (GMT -7)   
Tony when you get SSD you get put on Medicare at the same time or at least I did, I didn't have a choice, after my final hearing and the judge wanted me to have one more test done, then he made his ruling and he approved the SSD and I was put on Medicare part A and B and within a few days of receiving my approval letter I got my Medicare card. So Yes you do have to wade and sift through the BS to get to the Facts. The whole secret to getting SSD is persistence and perseverance, just don't let them wear you down to where you give up! If you have a good legit case just stick with it!

Good Luck to You

White Beard
 

I'm Retired USAF, went back to school and became an RN, and now am on ful disalbility!

Degenerative Disc (affecting mostly the thorasic disc but all levels involved), C6/7 laminectomy/diskectomy& fusion, Osteoarthritis, Ulcerative colitis, Chronic Pain, Fibromyalgia, Complex Sleep Apnea, and host of other things to spice up my life!(NOT!)

Medications: Oxycontin, Percocet, Baclofen, Sulfasalazine, Metoprolol, Folic Acid, Supplemental O2 at 3lpm with VPAP Adapt SV


skeye
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   Posted 3/28/2009 7:12 PM (GMT -7)   
Aww, Palady, I'm so sorry that you had such a rotten night last night! Nights are the worst for me as well. I've actually started dreading nights, even though I crave sleep (but it never really comes, so that is part of the problem). It's worse when I'm at school, as I am very lonely there. At least when I'm home I have my animals. If I'm still up & in pain in the wee hours of the morning, I'll go snuggle with my dogs. I really wish we could find some way to get you those kitties! Even though they are skittish now, I think you three would be perfect for each other, because you will need the kitties as much as the kitties will need you! I don't need to tell you how loving and healing animals are. I know that if it wasn't for my animals, especially my dogs, I wouldn't be functioning as "well" as I am today.

Hope you are feeling better this evening!

Skeye

Hello~Kitty
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   Posted 3/28/2009 7:33 PM (GMT -7)   
I dont know if anybody has written this yet, but they have proof that ulcers/gerd is caused by a virus (I beleive it's a virus), so your meds are probably not causing it at all. I dont know how they get proof that it is causing your hertburn pain, but I know there are treatments. I was diagnosed with ulcers when I was 15 and took heartburn meds til I was 20, and felt much better, but lately the nightly pain has come back, it feels like something sharp is stuck in my throat, even when I take NSAIDS causes it right when I swallow them, I can only take Ibprofen sometimes, but too much of it will cause it too, but naproxen and asprin is the worse. But you should get it checked before you end up with lots of ulcers.

-hellokitty
26 year old Female , single mother of 2 kids, on SSI for migraines, pain, pancreas issues
All the things broken with me: Migraines, Fibromyalgia, Chronic lower back pain that causes severe pain/numbness/tingling especially to my left leg, Genetic Pancreatic Divisum that causes chronic pancreatitas, Asthma, Depression w/Anxiety/panic attacks
Prescription Meds:Suboxone 24mgs daily, Cymbalta 60mg nightly, Lyrica 50mgs nightly, Imitrex as needed, Ibprofen 800 twice daily, Zanaflex as needed, Ventolin as needed for asthma attacks, Advair twice daily
Over the conter meds: Benadryl nightly for itching due to meds (not sure which one yet),
Surgeries: Gallbladder removed at 15 years old, 2 ERCPs, stent put in pancreas, countless upper GI scopes, Bartholin gland opened permanetly due to recurring painful cysts
Goals: to go to college next fall to be a nurse and get off of SSI
Wishful thinking: to not be in pain!!!


straydog
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   Posted 3/28/2009 7:39 PM (GMT -7)   
White Beard and Tony, I was not eligible for my Medicare till 18 months after I was approved for SSD. Don't ask me why, I just know its been the same for many having to wait that long.

I know on regular SS you can work & earn so much money. They have a cap and if you go over the cap SS penalizes you. This happened to my Dad. Now, for SSD I do not know if they allow you to work. Back when I worked and handled SS files on our clients they were not allowed to work. The rules may have changed. The best place to get accurate info is SS'd website. Tony is right about getting a different story from different people. PA, you really should just make a call to SS and inquire aboput the earning quarters, remember what I told you about waiting too long and knocking yourself out of some money. You sure don't want to lose any money off of that deal...>Susie

The weather changes is getting all of us.


PAlady
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   Posted 3/28/2009 7:53 PM (GMT -7)   
Susie,
Yes, I remember. And thanks. That's why I hope to use the date of my surgery as the date of disability, and say that I will pay back the state the unemployment I received during that time. It isn't a lie; no one knew the nerve wouldn't heal. From what I have read, you're eligible for Medicare 2 years after your date of disability. Everything seems to hinge on the date your doctors say the disability started, not when you actually apply. And from what I've read, you can earn up to $900/ month and still be on SSD, but it's unclear to me about working before you're disabled, because I have worked a small amount. Anyway, I don't want to get into that discussion here right now. I do have the SSD website you gave me bookmarked, and I go back there to get info. and try to make plans, although I also have to plan for how I'll manage the in between time - between when unemployment ends and getting SSD approved. And who knows how long that will be. So I've been focused on finding that out right now.

The lousy thing is it takes me so long to figure stuff out. My brain works so slowly. And I've got to get medical records straightened out. I used to be able to think and organize stuff fairly quickly. Now it takes all day to make a shopping list!

PaLady
Oh, and there's the little deal of figuring out my taxes!! rolleyes

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   Posted 3/28/2009 7:54 PM (GMT -7)   

PAlady and CP friends, I have not been keeping up much the last couple days. I made it to the coast and I am relaxing. Sorry to hear that many are not sleeping that well. But even though we got away for a few days does not mean that sleep is that easy. I am just not answering the phone early and have layed in bed until 10:00 AM. Wow, now if I just had some bon bons and a few soap operas to wacth. Hopefully tonight will be a little easier on us all.

PAlady, I just found out before leaving town to come to the coast, I will not be teaching this next quarter. I will monitor two lab classes but no papers to correct and no lectures. Ya Hoo. Is the kitten that was so fearful starting to lets its guard down at all?

Skeye, I am glad that I am not the only one willing to say that I normally dislike night time. It seems that when the distractions are gone, the awareness of the pain sets in. I am sure that is what you experience as well.  


PAlady
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   Posted 3/28/2009 8:03 PM (GMT -7)   
Fatherjohn,
I am SO glad you got away!! I was hoping that's why we hadn't seen postst from you. And don't worry about us here - you'll have plenty of time to post when you get back.

You know the animal thing is something I really have to return to on that identity thread. The two cat I've been visiting really aren't "kittens" although they say they're 8 months old. They really look about a year to me - pretty full grown. Marlow is the bigger of the two, and he's probably about 12 lbs or so. He lets me pick him up, but even he's a little heavy to lift on a regular basis. Schmutzie, his brother, is a little smaller (and I really would love to change his name!). Schmutzie was SLOWLY getting better in that when they were staying in the manager's office he actually ate some treats out of my hand. Of course, then he'd run and hide. But Thursday when I was there I could tell they had both regressed. I wanted to cry. We took them out of the little cage enclosure, and brought them to the bare visiting room. It took me a good 10 minutes to get Marlow to play with the toys, and he usually plays easily. Schmutzie actually played before, when in the manager's office, but I could hardly get him to play at all. And he wouldn't eat any treats, which he usually does. I know they will get worse there. But Schmutzie hissed badly at the worker who brought him into the visiting room. I could only pick him up once, for a couple of seconds before he wanted to get down, but at least he's never hissed at me. Still, it's a lot of physical work. I know he would hide a lot here, and I don't have it in me anymore to find him, especially if he's unwilling to come with me when I need him to. That's not what I need right now.

It's so sad. I went around to all the other cats and gave each a treat and I really loved doing that. I think I need to do that more. Course I want to take them all home!

PaLady

straydog
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   Posted 3/28/2009 8:06 PM (GMT -7)   
So true fatherjohn, as long as I am up and doing things around the house during the day I can distract myself. I am being much more active now due to the increases of meds in my pump. One thing I have noticed is my stamina really needs alot of work. I am pushing myself and know this but it just feels good being able to take care of things that have been left undone for so long. But come nightfall I am looking for pain pills & muscle relaxers.

Enjoy your time away...Susie


PAlady
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   Posted 3/28/2009 8:12 PM (GMT -7)   
Yes, Susie, I think that urge to do a little spring clinging is there (and I'm not a big cleaning buff), but all I did was a tiny piece yesterday and wham! But it's more the type of movement that gets to me.

PaLady
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