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Pete trips again!
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   Posted 3/31/2009 5:31 AM (GMT -6)   
I guess alot of you know me by now and what I've been up to for the past serveral months. Something is happeneing to me that I'm not sure I fully expected. As you may or may not know, a little over a week ago I had a cervical fusion along w/ some other skillful vertabrae cutting, grinding and sculpting by a Wiskid Neurosurgeon who day by day I think just outdid himself inside my neck! I just can't believe how much pain has vanished from my entire upper left side. I'm truely amazed! With that being said, now other old friends have returned who haven't missed at all and I'm not at all glad to see or feel again! Last night while I was trying to cook dinner, my lower lombar area hurt so bad, the stabing, burning and those old electric charges running down my legs just like the old days! I had to go sit down about 10 times while cooking as I felt if I didn't, I would have buckled and dropped right there. Then I woke up at 3:00am this morning and my left knee was on fire and throbbing w/ pain and having that wierd sensation that always means there's fluid in it. I also have an pain in my back under my right shoulder blade, my two boys used to call it my spot years ago when they were little kids. I would ask them to rub it or even punch it for me sometimes. This old friend>NOT also showed up this morning with a vengance stabing me unmercively in the back like a true friend>NOT which is just driving me crazy right now while trying to type. My rotted out left hip socket which needs to be replaced is also pounding away w/ it's dull but strong base line beat of pain. What the hell is going on? I feel like a Blues Band of Pain! Is all this in my mind? Do I miss having all the pain in my neck so I'm unconciusly calling in these old friends to join the party? My wife has been so carring and understanding and is so exstatic over the success in my neck so far, I can't start complaining about all these other old war injuries now. It would just destroy any hope or trust she's had for the last couple weeks! I don't usually take any pain meds this early but with these old friends returning I just might as they are beating the crap out of me! I believe that inactivity has played a role in this wave of old pains returning but all at once? It feels like they are all trying to play king of the hill of pain fighting to take today's top honors!! If I told anyone except All of Y'all about this, they would surely think I'm a crazy hypocondriac and at this point I'm questioning it myself? How could this be happening? Was the neck pain just so bad, it overwelmed the other pain that was there all along, I just didn't knowtice it? Is my brain playing tricks on me because CP has become such a part of my life that I unintentionally don't want it to leave? I am questioning my own sanity at this point! Heck, I'm going to go make a pot of coffee and take a pill. See Y'all later!
Call me Mr. Hypocondriac!
Your pittyful friend,
56 years old, Surgury, Radical Prostatectomy 8/20/03, PSA 6.6, Gleason 3 + 3 = 6, Adenocarcinoma extent (moderate) Stage & Margin:T2NOMX, No Metastases, Organ Confined, bone scan: Neg. 3 1/2 years of depression after surgery prior to Hypogonadizm DX, Testosterone Theropy> new 2/6/09> 400mg injections every 2weeks . 56 and so glad to still be here to see my two sons grow up to be fine young men. They are both serving in the US Navy, one on the aircraft carrier USS John Stennis in port in Japan and the other on a Gator Freighter USS Bataan stationed in Norfolk, Va. I am one proud PaPa! 

Pamela Neckpain
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   Posted 3/31/2009 8:29 AM (GMT -6)   
Oh Pete,

Dam n! Why oh why did this happen??

Surgery is trauma to your whole body when you're not 21. I wonder if that could
be part of what the pains are about.

You were on the operating table for a long time. That could add to the pain.

Anyway, it definitely something you want to talk to your surgeon about. I'll
be watching to hear what your doctor says.

All my good thoughts are flying your way through cyberspace on little pink
and silver wings. Can you see them. They're tiny busy angels come to make
you feel better.

Pamela, your cyber sister

Pamela Neckpain
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   Posted 3/31/2009 8:31 AM (GMT -6)   

I'm gonna make a pot of coffee and face it. I didn't sleep all night.

Osteoarthritis all levels of spine right down to Coccyx,Spondilytis,Myofascial Pain
Fibromyalgia,Bulging Discs,Spinal Stenosis,Scoliosis,Osteopenia,Chronic Constipation
Carpel Tunel Syndrome, Attention Deficit Disorder,
Depression & Anxiety

Methadone for Pain, Xanax for Anxiety, and more, of course.

White Beard
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   Posted 3/31/2009 11:33 AM (GMT -6)   


When do you see your whiz bang surgeon again? You really should talk to him about your lower back anyway. You know those disc might also be shot! It is not surprising that you did not feel pain  from them with your neck so screw up! Pain has its priorty to, you know, and nerves in you cervical area was screaming out the loudest at the time! They got relief and now it is the next in line! You really do need to talk with your Doc about though! I have bad disc all through my back and they seem to take turns doing the pain thing, I guess it all depends on what I am doing!

Anyway take care of your self!

White Beard


I'm Retired USAF, went back to school and became an RN, and now am on ful disalbility!

Degenerative Disc (affecting mostly the thorasic disc but all levels involved), C6/7 laminectomy/diskectomy& fusion, Osteoarthritis, Ulcerative colitis, Chronic Pain, Fibromyalgia, Complex Sleep Apnea, and host of other things to spice up my life!(NOT!)

Medications: Oxycontin, Percocet, Baclofen, Sulfasalazine, Metoprolol, Folic Acid, Supplemental O2 at 3lpm with VPAP Adapt SV

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   Posted 3/31/2009 11:39 AM (GMT -6)   
Oh my Pete so sorry your lower back is acting up, It could be that
your neck pain was bothering you so bad that you didn't feel the other pain
in your lower back.. write down everything that's happening and ask this wonder doc
of yours about these new problems, make sure you explain it good like you've done here
sure wish I had a better answer for you...
Hope you get a low pain day soon...
Good luck on the fishing trip with your boys, this weekend....
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   Posted 3/31/2009 12:43 PM (GMT -6)   
I don't think it's all in your head. I have experienced the same thing. My NS told me that the brain can only handle so much pain before it goes into shock. Basically, my brain couldn't handle having 5 different excruciatingly painful experiences simultaneously so it focused in on one. It is a coping mechanism. Once one problem was taken care of, another area would start to hurt like crazy. My PM joked that he felt like he was playing wack-a-mole with pain that would keep popping up in different places. But patience paid off in my case. We just kept going with the treatments until everything was fixed. :)

I know you've said in the past that you needed a bunch of work to fix all your pain problems. You should check with your docs, but I wouldn't be surprised if they say they need to do more surgeries to correct the rest of your problems in order to get the rest of the pain to go away. In the meanwhile, maybe you could call your PM or surgeon & ask about getting some better pain relievers to help with the new pains. Hang in there! It really does get better, just sometimes it takes some time to get there.

take care,
Wild Frances

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   Posted 3/31/2009 1:40 PM (GMT -6)   

Hi Pete,

Whew, sure hate to hear whats going on with you guy. Wonder if you are right, since surgery you have been very active, more than you should be I am sure. Maybe this is your body warning you that you are overdoing things. I would not ignore the problems at all. I too think you need to give your dr a call, either one of them.

That spot your boys called it, where my friend what you described sounds like a nice big ole muscle spasm going on. Its very common to get the spasms after surgery too for some reason. i see you take Flexeril at night, maybe your drs can call in something else to try that you can take during the day too. Before I got my new pm dr I lived on Zanaflex muscle relaxers, that was the only way I could get any relief. Back when my neck was roaring, I finally had an RF done on my neck. The RF got rid of those soft balls that were under my shoulder blades for 15 yrs. Nothing worked before in getting rid of them. It was awful.



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   Posted 3/31/2009 2:07 PM (GMT -6)   
I'm so sorry you've got all this "new" pain (really new-old), but it could be lots of things as others have suggested. I would definitely get VERY conservative about your activities - including being on a boat. Pete, your neck needs months to fuse, and in the meantime all that's holding it together is some hardware. Also, your doctor might have straightened your neck with the fusion, so everything below it that was used to being out of alignment is now being pulled in a new direction. Definitely call your surgeon's office and tell them what's going on - and please, please ask about activity restrictions. You know with lumbar spine surgery, something as simple as sitting is one of the worst things someone can do. Sounds odd to most people, but most of us realize it (maybe too late). With a neck think about just a slight turn - even while doing something as simple as cooking, wring on the computer, DRIVING, etc.

I don't want to see you get worse! Please call your doc!



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   Posted 3/31/2009 10:40 PM (GMT -6)   
Hi Pete,

You certainly don't sound crazy to me! I highly doubt that all these "new" pains are in your head. There are probably multiple factors influencing this origin of "new" pain, but I see one big reason as this: Like what Frances was saying, our bodies can only deal with so much pain at once. Our brain tends to prioritize, the thing that causes you the worst pain you will feel the most. This can have a "canceling" type effect on other, less strong pains we feel. For example, if you had a constant muscle ache & then got a paper cut, you'd likely notice the pain from the paper cut more than the ache, such that the ache seemed to dull during the time in which your finger was hurting. You've just taken away, or at least greatly reduced this huge source of pain, so it is only logical that your other pains will now be more noticeable, despite the fact that your other conditions have not changed. Unfortunately, it sounds like you might have to do what Frances & her doc did, tackle different source of pain one at a time, until you have everything under control.

I hope this makes some sense. I wish there was some easy answer, but it sounds as if you may be trading one pain for another for a while until you can eliminate or reduce some of your multiple sources of pain.

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