My Nerve Block

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LLPLUV
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   Posted 4/14/2009 12:20 PM (GMT -7)   
My nerve block SUCKED!!!  It HURT!!!  Medications they give by IV didn't work.  Next week they said they would increase the Fentanyl and Versed, whatever all that is.
 
I haven't been on to much the pain was getting to me.
 
I called the pain doctors nurse and she never called back.  So I waited until my nerve block yesterday to talk to the doctor then found out another doctor was doing the procedure.  My doctor was on the ball and had my refill already for me.  But I need an adjustment.
 
I was told if I wanted an appointment I would have to call.  I left 2 messages for the schedulers and never received a call back.  So I left work early and went to the office.  Because I was new they went ahead and got me an appt for tomorrow morning.  But in the future I will have to call and leave a message for the scheduler.
 
Man Oh Man.  In the future I better be prepared before hand for a headache when calling.
 
Ok just had to vent a tad..
 
Well I better go catch up on the posts.......
 
Laurie
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PAlady
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   Posted 4/14/2009 12:46 PM (GMT -7)   
Laurie,

Ok, to start

((((((((((((Laurie))))))))))))

I can't remember if you've had nerve blocks before, but the longer term effect may not be known for a few days. Usually, though, some local anesthetic eases the pain for the first 24 hrs. You know I've never had or needed IV sedation for any nerve blocks or epidurals, so I don't know. And I've had a lot of them. Unfortunately, none ever helped with the exception of the SI joint injection.

I'm glad you have an appointment tomorrow morning! And vent all you like!

I also found ice to the site helps during the first 24 hrs.

We're here.

PaLady

Tony McGuire
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   Posted 4/14/2009 1:01 PM (GMT -7)   
I've had 3 nerve blocks; or rather 3 attempts. Never felt the slightest benefit even for the local anesthetic. My PM gave up in disgust since it was a nerve block that was to be the proof of how great the nerve blocks 'could' be.

At this point we are left with Methadone and Lyrica, and their enhancers. Beyond that, I don't know what there might be but I don't think my future in the pain realm looks very bright.
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LLPLUV
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   Posted 4/14/2009 1:02 PM (GMT -7)   
This was my first one I also have two more to go through. for about 24 hours you are right I was alittle numb but its long gone now..lol My doctor doesn't believe I will get any benifet from them but just wanting to do the procedures to say he did. Covering all bases.

PAlady I can't beleive the ones you had didn't come with IV sedation.. Dang If I'm to have another 2 of them they better give me meds the pain shot down to my foot. I had a hard time breathing during mine,.
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Pamela Neckpain
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   Posted 4/14/2009 1:19 PM (GMT -7)   
Tony,

I don't know what a nerve block is. Why didn't yours work? Did something get in
the way?

I think I'll ask for Lyrica even though I know it's expensive. I need SOMETHING.

I won't have the pain pump. Too scared of it. Too scared of ALL of it. It might be
different if I spoke with a neurosurgeon. I have to have a referral and right now
I simply need a primary care doctor.

For now I'll just take the pain.

Pamela
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Methadone for Pain, Xanax for Anxiety, and more, of course.


Tony McGuire
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   Posted 4/14/2009 1:40 PM (GMT -7)   
The nerve block, which I thought you all were talking about, is a shot given that prevents the nerve from working, basically, for 60-90 days.

Strange. One of them I DID feel a wildly weird sensation where it felt like a bullet train running down my back from the injection site to my knee.

The doctor, I think, was unused to failure. It didn't take long for him to convert me from a pain block failure to a pain block challenge.

As to the Fentanyl, I think it is a topical solution. Same stuff used in Chloraseptic to kill sore throat pain (Chloraseptic is stronger than what they use as a local for the nerve block, I think).

I also failed on the Fentanyl Patch, by the way. Made it one day of the 9 day initial trial period and the pain was too intense - I had to go back to Lyrica/Cymbalta or whichever the tradeOff was.
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Post Edited (TonyMcGuire) : 4/14/2009 3:09:39 PM (GMT-6)


Chartreux
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   Posted 4/14/2009 3:01 PM (GMT -7)   
It's not so much the doctor's but rather the Insurance companies, Insurance says you
have to do this and this and this, cause I really don't think the doctors like to do them..
My doctor wanted to do a newer procedure which would help me better but Insurance said
"NO" and so I'm left with the route of every injection imagionable first...and it ain't right...
For the first 24 hours your supposed to ICE as it will be very very sore, ya got poked (hehehe)
sorry just a little joke, very little.........
Lots and Lots of soft hugz
((((((((((((((((((Laurie))))))))))))))))))))))))))))
So very sorry they didn't help............
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White Beard
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   Posted 4/14/2009 4:35 PM (GMT -7)   
Chartreux
      I agree with you allot of insurance companies have protocols, you can't do this, unless you have done that, and so on. Even if the Doctors knows that it is a waste of time and resources. They do the same thing in sleep Apnea, they start you off on the cheapest machines, and if that fails they will have you have another sleep study and give you a diferent more expensive type of machine and treatment. But if they would just go by what the Doctors  tells them in the first place they would often safe allot of time and money, plus all the pain and frustration that the patient has to go through! But I guess that is not important,  if they think they can possibly keep from spending a buck, that is what is important! Whether they actually do or not is irrelevant!
 
LLPLUV I do hope this nerve block helps you! I also hope the pain eases up for you!
I wish you only the Best
 
White Beard


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uniquelyme
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   Posted 4/14/2009 5:17 PM (GMT -7)   
Is a Nerve Block the same as an Epidural Steroid Injection? If so, I have had major trouble with those...Doc said he wouldn't even try again, it was like putting a needle into a block of wood...

Me.
 
We are all in the same boat...unfortunatley it seems like it's sinking...
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Tony McGuire
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   Posted 4/14/2009 8:16 PM (GMT -7)   
Me-> That 'steroidal' sounds familiar. They have a machine and one person guiding another person with a needle who injects the 'stuff' into your back in an effort to deaden a particular nerve that carries specific signals so you get relief through numbness of the nerve that would otherwise be carrying the signal of pain.

At least, that is my understanding.

Unfortunately, they tell me that 3 of the 4 major nerves for me are all messed up in both legs and feet. So 3 of the 4 are sending uncontrollable "I'm in screaming pain" signals 100% of the time. The only relief is to deaden it with drugs; finding the right drug or combination of drugs is where the doctor comes in; and I honestly believe I have found one who is really good at it. I just don't think I can get my hopes up too high where actually finding a combo that will kill the pain much better than what I have is possible.

He uses very small amounts of Methadone with me, getting started. In combination with Morphine for breakthrough in larger installments (but remember the ratio is not 1:1 -> the ratios I've seen start at 1:2 <30mg, 1:4 40mg-100mg and rapidly change from there).

Anyway, if you are going to experiment with dosing, do it with your doctor's full knowledge an his assistance to find the right amounts or crossovers for you. Do NOT do it without your doctor, please.
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skeye
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   Posted 4/14/2009 9:21 PM (GMT -7)   
((((((((Laurie)))))))))))).

I've had 3 stellate ganglion nerve blocks done in my neck. Not so much fun, but they were over fast. Unfortunately they didn't do much for me. The first one helped moderately for 3 days, so I was hopefully. The second one didn't help at all, but I also don't think that my doc hit the nerve right on, as I didn't have as much drooping of my face (a temporary side effect of the block) & there were many other things that seemed to "go wrong" with the procedure that day. I know he got a good block on the third one, but no luck there either. I was so disappointed.

Hopefully your next block with go much better & be more beneficial from the get go. The theory is, that if the block helps, each subsequent block should provide more relief & relief for a longer period of time. Hopefully it holds true for you!

Skeye

LLPLUV
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   Posted 4/15/2009 7:12 AM (GMT -7)   
I'm just hoping they will start to work along the way. I just got back from the doctor and he told me he can't adjust my meds until the procedures are done. He says the clinics rules are medication changes can not be done when procedures are locked in. He said after my third block we can evaluate and adjust from there. I'm thinking it does have something to do with insurance. They did mention my insurance has certain requirements the clinic has to fullfill to receive continued payments. I guess its not so back. I still have medication not enough but enough to bare with it. He did up my night medication of trazodone so I can sleep through most the discomfort.
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