Here is an example of how some Drs. hurt us.

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angel8
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Date Joined Apr 2009
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   Posted 4/20/2009 3:05 AM (GMT -7)   
Sunday's paper here had the conclusion of a story that started back last summer when 2 Internal med Docs were sanctioned by the Lic.board for "overprescribing pain meds" One Doc was found to be not in error and he simply was a Doc trying to help pain patients that fell thru the cracks of other Docs and pain clinics not helping. The other was asked to relinquish his Lic. and he did.
 
He lied and falsified documents to the board even after he was being investigated by the DEA.
 
He was found to be prescribing narcotics to patients he had not seen,not requiring more then them picking up the script once a month,filling meds early every month for many,he even documented he say them in the office and right down to entering vitals and weights on folks that said they had NOT been seen in the office for over a year but there was monthly stats entered into the chart for them?
 
He was found to be prescribing a dangerous combination of meds to many such as a example I recall from the origional charges was a woman who was being given some ungodly amount of oxy-c along with the same ungodly amount of zanax and klonopin each month and had no labs entered for 26 months.
 
He took no insurance,nomedicaid or medicare,cash only and lots of it. A "pill mill" I believe it the term the reporter used to describe him.
 
This sadly is just the kinds of things that hurt us even though he was stating he was only trying to help those suffering from non-cancerous types of pain?
 

Pamela Neckpain
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Date Joined May 2008
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   Posted 4/20/2009 6:45 AM (GMT -7)   
Yes, doctors' just don't pay enough attention to the serious matter of
Intractible Pain.
Someone on the board mentioned that pain is invisible. I believe any one
of us could see pain and suffering on the face and walk of another. Problem
is: None of us can prescribe.
If we has expensive Cancer, medics would pay attention.

My words feel so bitter.
I had two humanitarian doctors in my seven years of pain.
For them, I am thankful.
Not much can be done for me.
I don't believe my doctor can prescribe more Methadone. (DEA, you know)

It's difficult.
Pamela

uniquelyme
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   Posted 4/20/2009 10:35 AM (GMT -7)   
Theres a Doc..or was a Doc here in Nashville that everyone called Dr. "V"..He was just like that other Dr. Didn't take anything but cash, come in once a month and get your scripts...Then, after years of this he got in trouble for giving narcotics to a pregnant woman in Ky...now he had an office in Tn!!! Anyway, the girl turned him in after she lost the baby...

He has to go to trial...BUt. shouldn't she be held responsible too? She went to him knowing she was preggers???

Me/
 
We are all in the same boat...unfortunatley it seems like it's sinking...
Post Lamenectomy Syndrome
Hemi Lamenectomy/Spinal Fusion(Lumbar)
60 mg. MS Contin 2Xdaily/15 mg. Oxycodone as needed
High Blood Pressure: Lisinopril HCTZ 10 mg. daily
Type 2Diabetes: (March 16, 2009)
Metformin 1000mg. twice daily (so far)
ME. (Rhonda)                                                                    

 


Hello~Kitty
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   Posted 4/20/2009 11:57 AM (GMT -7)   
I went to a doctor like that several years ago, about 7 years ago I was refered to her by my GI doctor cause I had alot of stomach issues (especailly chronic pancreatitas) that my insurance wouldnt pay for the GI doctor to treat cause we tried everything else that the insurance would pay for, but none of it worked, but I was in SEVERE pain, so he refered me to this "family doctor" that did pain management. this was the first pain doctor I ever went to and at the time my GI doctor was giving me percocets, well this PM doctor told me that there was this med called oxycontin that would be better then percocet. Well her husband and secretary would sit there and suck on Actiqs the whole time. Well she would prescribe massive amounts of narcotics with out really anyone asking for them, she would give me a 3 boxes of actiqs every month which I hardly used with oxys, and I would be so out of it all the time but I didnt know better, I thought if the doctor said I should take it, then I should. Well after a couple of years I guess the WHOLE town heard of her, and I started to realize what she was up to, and I tried to find a diffrent pain specailist, but nobody in my town was taking my insurance or new patients, so I had to stay but I would just pick up my oxycontin and that was it. Well I remember people pileing into the waiting room demanding their prescriptions, there was even one guy that said he used up all his oxycontin too fast and wanted a refill with a higher dose and the doctor gave it to him. I would of thought a patient that took all his pills too fast and demanded a higher prescription was grounds for removal or even the cops called, but nope. And she had a huge calander in the waiting room so everyone could write their names on it so the doctor would know who needed their refills, of course I never put my name on it, I wanted my information private. And her husband would always sexually harrass me, I remember one time I went their and all the chairs where being used in the waiting room so this guy got up and said I could have his chair, and the doctor's husband said I could come sit on his lap, I was so grossed out. Well after about 3 years of this, the doctor finally got in trouble cause alot of patients complained about what she was doing when she would cut them off (she started cutting off alot of patients cause she knew she as about to get in trouble) and of course her office was closed down. The I guess she reopened about 6 months later but that was shut down within a few months and she went to rehab cause she would take patients meds when she told them to bring in their left overs so she could switch their meds, but instead of flushing them she kept them for herself. She paid her secretary in prescriptions, and once when I ran out of meds and the doctor was out for the day, the secreatary called me at 8pm and told me to meet her at the back of the office, and I thought the doctor wrote me a prescription and she was just being nice and was gonna give it to me, but instead she handed me an envelope with pills (it was the samething I took) but I freaked out, I knew that as illegal period. Alot of people where mad and freaked out when she left cause she got several hundred people addicted to narcotics and benzodiazipines. This doctor did take private insurance but absoutly no mediccare or medicaid cause she hated it and said it was a rip off?? but when she left I found a great internal doctor that took over my care and was much better at his job. When I look back I get so angry at myself for continueing to go to her, but I was only 19 years old when I started going, and didnt know any better or knew at all how a PM doctor worked, I guess I thought that was normal, but now if I ever see a doctor like that again I will run very quickly the other way cause now I now ALOT more better

Also their was doctor 2 yers go tht ws selling prescriptions out of the back of his truck to teenagers. I just dont understand why anybody would do such a thing, they know they will be caught, and after so many years of school and college and they risk it all just like that.

-hellokitty
26 year old Female , single mother of 2 kids, on SSI for migraines, pain, pancreas issues
All the things broken with me: Migraines, Fibromyalgia, Chronic lower back pain that causes severe pain/numbness/tingling especially to my left leg,Arthiritis in my back, Genetic Pancreatic Divisum that causes chronic pancreatitas, Asthma, Depression w/Anxiety/panic attacks, Bipolar
Prescription Meds:Suboxone 24mgs daily, Cymbalta 60mg nightly, Lyrica 50mgs nightly, Imitrex as needed, Ibprofen 800 twice daily, Zanaflex as needed, Ventolin as needed for asthma attacks, Advair twice daily
Over the counter meds: Benadryl nightly for itching due to meds (not sure which one yet), and Biofreeze  
Surgeries: Gallbladder removed at 15 years old, 2 ERCPs, stent put in pancreas, countless upper GI scopes, marsupilized bartholin gland cyst
 
"Never go to a doctor's office whose plants has died."
 
 


uniquelyme
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   Posted 4/20/2009 12:10 PM (GMT -7)   
Hello Kitty,
How well does the Suboxone work on the pain? Just curious, I know alot of people that went from Methadone to Suboxone and I never knew how it went...

Some Dr.'s shouldn't be Dr.'s...And I agree about the dead plants...

Me.
 
We are all in the same boat...unfortunatley it seems like it's sinking...
Post Lamenectomy Syndrome
Hemi Lamenectomy/Spinal Fusion(Lumbar)
60 mg. MS Contin 2Xdaily/15 mg. Oxycodone as needed
High Blood Pressure: Lisinopril HCTZ 10 mg. daily
Type 2Diabetes: (March 16, 2009)
Metformin 1000mg. twice daily (so far)
ME. (Rhonda)                                                                    

 


Hello~Kitty
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Date Joined Jun 2005
Total Posts : 610
   Posted 4/20/2009 12:38 PM (GMT -7)   
Uniquelyme,

I swear by my Suboxones, I couldn't ask for a better med for my chronic pain. I started it to get off of all narcotics cause my tolerence was way too high and nothing was helping my pain, it seemed like the higher the dose went up, the worse my pain got. But after starting Suboxone I realize my pain got alot more controlled, of course nothing will help it 100% but it does a great job. The main ingredient in it, Burenorphine, has been used overseas for many years for pain, it is a narcotic, so it helps with pain, but they just add the naloxone in it for people with addictions and dependence to narcotics so they cant abuse the Suboxone. right now they're doing trials on Burprenorphine in a patch form that will be used just for chronic pain, so I cant wait for those to be approved so I can try them cause I know if the pills work, then the patches should too. It works almost like any narcotic, but it does have a diffrent structure thats hard to explain. Alot of doctors are starting to prescribe it more and more for pain cause you cant abuse it or build a tolerence to it. It does have a half life of 37 hours but it only works for pain for 6-8 hours, and I love tht it works so fast cause it's absorbed under the tongue so I dont have to wait an hour or more for a pill to work, these only take about 15 minutes to take effect, which is wonderful when I'm in alot of pain. I know alot of people are turned off by it cause it's approved for addiction/dependence to narcotics, but it IS a narcotic that can be prescribed off label for pain, and some of the top best pain doctors in the country like to prescribe it more then any other pain med cause it has so many perks, but lot of poeple say it doesnt work, but for me it does. The naloxone in it doesnt take effect when taking under the tongue, it only works when injected, so it doesnt cause withdrawals if it's not abused. The only problem is that you have to be in withdrawals to start taking it or it will throw you into withdrawals (I forgot why that happens) and you cant take other narcotics with it for breakthrough cause the buprenorphine blocks it. I still get pretty drowsy and loopy from it but it's worth it cause it kills the pain. This is all I can think of right now, it's a very unique drug but in a few years or less everyone will hear more and more about burprenorphine cause it's about to come out in other forms just for pain and not for addiction/dependence.

-hellokitty
26 year old Female , single mother of 2 kids, on SSI for migraines, pain, pancreas issues
All the things broken with me: Migraines, Fibromyalgia, Chronic lower back pain that causes severe pain/numbness/tingling especially to my left leg,Arthiritis in my back, Genetic Pancreatic Divisum that causes chronic pancreatitas, Asthma, Depression w/Anxiety/panic attacks, Bipolar
Prescription Meds:Suboxone 24mgs daily, Cymbalta 60mg nightly, Lyrica 50mgs nightly, Imitrex as needed, Ibprofen 800 twice daily, Zanaflex as needed, Ventolin as needed for asthma attacks, Advair twice daily
Over the counter meds: Benadryl nightly for itching due to meds (not sure which one yet), and Biofreeze  
Surgeries: Gallbladder removed at 15 years old, 2 ERCPs, stent put in pancreas, countless upper GI scopes, marsupilized bartholin gland cyst
 
"Never go to a doctor's office whose plants has died."
 
 

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