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tmjpain
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   Posted 4/25/2009 9:01 AM (GMT -7)   
Google-Natural Pain Relief Center, it is the first link of the list.
Some of you may already know that I have suffered for 10years with chronic pain and that being daily continuous headaches. Right now the headaches have not let go since Oct 2008. I have tried all treatments, doctors, and meds. I came across this site and it seems to make so much sense to me. It is the only center in Canada. It is in Toronto. I live in Ottawa, five hours away. I don't know if there are centers in the states, but it seems that some of you could be helped by a center like this one. Read the testimonials. There is a 97% success rate. I phoned them and she said they have treated many cases such as mine. We are reaching for anything at this point. I can't continue with headaches like this on a continuous basis. My pain score is a continuous 8-10/10. I am on MS Contin, Cipralex, Flexeril, Imovane and Percocet, Ativan prn. So we are leaving for Toronto on Tues and back on Friday.
 
I would appreciate anyone's opinion on this center once you read the site. I know many of you are pretty versed on this chronic pain issue.
 
Thanks so much for reading.
 
Suzane
 

White Beard
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   Posted 4/25/2009 1:18 PM (GMT -7)   
tmjpain

I am always a little skeptical, of places that use testimonials, it might be legit, but I would be careful, as they say if it sounds to good to be true, it probably is! I am not saying I don't believe in natural pain relief, but just exactly what is natural? Suzane just be cautious, there are a lot of charlatans out there preying on innocent desperate people, and when your in pain and would do just about anything to get it to stop. Well they know that, and will take advantage of that fact!

I wish you well and I do hope they can help you!

White Beard
  I'm Retired USAF, went back to school and became an RN, and now am on full disalbility!--Degenerative Disc (affecting mostly the thorasic disc but all levels involved), C6/7 laminectomy/diskectomy& fusion, Osteoarthritis, Ulcerative colitis, Chronic Pain, Fibromyalgia, Complex Sleep Apnea, and host of other things to spice up my life!(NOT!) Medications: Oxycontin, Percocet, Baclofen, Sulfasalazine, Metoprolol, Folic Acid, Supplemental O2 at 3lpm with VPAP Adapt SV


PAlady
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   Posted 4/25/2009 1:27 PM (GMT -7)   
Tmj,
I have to second White Beard's opinion. We do get so desperate and will do about anything. If there was some magical natural pain relief, don't you think we'd all know about it?

Now I'm open to natural cure and treatments. More so than many might think. But I believe there's a good middle of the road called Integrative Medicine. Takes the best of both worlds. But takes from alternative treatments that have at least some science behind them. I would do some research, and like White Beard said if is sounds too good to be true..

The testimonials always make me raise an eyebrow. Something that has some credibility will usually reference some valid research studies.

I wish you well, too, but if they're asking you to spend your life savings on this, I'd take a second look.

PaLady

tmjpain
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   Posted 4/25/2009 6:07 PM (GMT -7)   
Thanks for your opinion. Did you read all the info on the site. It just seems to make so much sense that we need to break the pain cycle. When I saw the orofacial pain dr. last week he told me that all the ortho work I had done in the last nine years was not necessary. I started to cry, I have just gone thru so much pain, contant headaches at 8/10 just destroys your life. So he said I have myofacial pain disorder and tension type headaches. So that is probably the reason the narcotics are not helping my pain. Hence thinking that this center would help me. I will still need to have braces again because one can't live with a mouthguard forever and none of my teeth touch without the guard. My two dr. in Montreal (dentist and orofacial pain dr.) are suppose to put a plan into effect. So once again can I ask your opinion. Yes I know I am trying so hard to find an answer to this pain. On a postive note, I have just had my first two days out of bed since Oct and I feel like I am in heaven. The first days of pain score at 6.5-8. instead of 15/10 if you KWIM.
 
Thanks again
 
Suzane

skeye
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   Posted 4/26/2009 7:59 PM (GMT -7)   
Suzane,

I wish you the best of luck & hope that this program really does the trick for you! I know all too well how horrible it is to live at a constant 8, as do I know facial pain! I hope that this place is legit & that they really know their stuff!.

Skeye

tmjpain
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   Posted 4/26/2009 8:34 PM (GMT -7)   
The other site that goes with it that you can check is The Headache and Pain RElief Center Toronto.

I read everything again tonight and it all makes sence. The brain needs to be reprogrammed. Right now all it knows is medication for pain , give me more. Also there is a good section that insomnia needs to be broken. I know that several of you don't sleep and it is in stage 3 and 4 that you have your body healing happening. Please read all this info.

Suzane
PS the good thing also is the assessment is free so we will find out what it's all about before having to put any money on the table.

Pamela Neckpain
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   Posted 4/27/2009 1:49 AM (GMT -7)   
Suzane,

I havent had headaches for years. When I started taking Adderal for Attention
Deficit Disorder my nearly life-long headaches lifted and they just never returned.
I would have a couple of them a month. They'd last from 1-3 days. During
that time, I couldn't do anything and the only medicine that would touch them
was Sudafed for Sinus Relief, OTC. I took Adderal for one year. It helped so
many problems. Then one day, I simply didn't need it any more.

Did you say that your doctor said that pain medicine wouldn't touch Myofascial
Pain? I have that - most doctors don't know anything about it!

I'm sorry you have myofascial pain AND headaches.

Pamela

Hmmm ... Did I hear you mention people who don't sleep? I hate this not
sleeping. It's 1:46 AM. I'm medicated. The medicine I've taken would put
a horse to snoring.

(I am not referring to those show horses in Florida who were given some bad
substance that sent them to their eternal sleep)

edt
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   Posted 4/27/2009 5:40 AM (GMT -7)   
tmjpain,
Good luck with your appointment!  There are many treatment modalities available, what works for you may not work for someone else!  My motto is ask questions, if it feels like its worth a try for you and the side effects are minimal WHAT IF this is the treatment that COULD help you, we never know unless we try! 
Please keep us posted!
XXOO
Patti

tmjpain
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   Posted 4/27/2009 7:54 AM (GMT -7)   

Thanks to all for your replies. I reread all the info last night. I really believe you should all read the info on both sites. The info is legit regarding changing the way the brain thinks and breaking the pain cycle as well as the sleep cycle. You have to get to stage 3 and 4 of your sleep. The deep stages of sleep are where the natural pain killer productions takes place. I know that many of you hardly sleep at all so your body can't heal. The pathways to the brain are all mixed up. The brain is tricked into believing pain is a normal state for that person. So the brain turns down the production and release of neurotransmitter pain killer endorphins, serotonin,GABA while increasing inflammatory responses.Serotonin is one of the major mood elevators, so with lack of production, depression sets in which is common among all of us CP sufferers. The info is all there!! It is all proven with scientific papers etc. I have some medical background (I am a nurse)and I don't believe that this center is hoaxy. Like I said the assessment if free where we can ask all our questions, see this place and find out what the program is all about and what I would need to do. Nothing to lose right!!!!

Both of these sites have important information I think would be valuable for all of us CP sufferers to read.

Natural Pain Relief Center and Headache and Pain Relief Center (I know all of you don't suffer from headaches but it's the process involved in the brain which is important!!

I appreciate all your comments and taking the time to read the info on the net. I am still open to hearing your opinions.

Suzane


White Beard
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   Posted 4/27/2009 11:07 AM (GMT -7)   
tmjpain

As I mentioned in my post it might be legit, but I am still skeptical of it, but really it makes no difference what I think or what any of us here think, it is all about what you think and if it works for you! If other methods of pain relief haven't worked for you, then why not try it I guess?. All I would do, is caution you to be careful and don't get you hopes up to high! If it works that is Great! and if it doesn't well then you are right back to where you were before minus the cost of the treatment what ever it is. If you can afford it then go for it! But remember just because it does, or doesn't, work for you, doesn't mean it will or won't work for others! Everyone is different.

I am not at all trying to be critical of you,, so please remmber what I am saying is because I want the best for you! But from the way I read it, from the way you write, are you really looking for our opinions, or for our affirmation for you to go this place? Oppinions we have given you, but you seem to want more than that, I don't think any of us can you give you affirmation, unless some one has already went there. I know I can't! I do wish, as one nurse to another, that I could be more encouraging to you, I do know what it is like to have chronic pain, but I don't not know what it is like to have chronic headaches, and I really don't know what it is actually like for you, because only YOU can feel your own pain! I hope that this all makes sense to you!
Suzane I do wish all the best!

Good Luck to You

White Beard
  I'm Retired USAF, went back to school and became an RN, and now am on full disalbility!--Degenerative Disc (affecting mostly the thorasic disc but all levels involved), C6/7 laminectomy/diskectomy& fusion, Osteoarthritis, Ulcerative colitis, Chronic Pain, Fibromyalgia, Complex Sleep Apnea, and host of other things to spice up my life!(NOT!) Medications: Oxycontin, Percocet, Baclofen, Sulfasalazine, Metoprolol, Folic Acid, Supplemental O2 at 3lpm with VPAP Adapt SV


tmjpain
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   Posted 4/27/2009 3:19 PM (GMT -7)   

No White Beard I am not looking for more than your opinions. I had the other site I wanted to put forward to everyone and what they are putting forward is actually how our brain works. It is what it is. It is at no cost to me to have an assessment and evaluate what they have to offer.

It's too bad you thought I was looking for more from everyone. I was just reaching out.

 

Suzane


Boxerlover
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   Posted 4/28/2009 3:01 PM (GMT -7)   

Suzane,

I agree with everyone else that it sounds too good to be true. I have found that most of these places do not have long term merit.  If they did, we all would know about it by now.  It's like in that "Letter to Normals" where it says to "normal" people please do not tell us all the "miracle" things that we should be trying because we would know about it if it worked.

With that said, if this sounds right to you, go. Like whitebeard said all you have to lose is the money you spend on the program. This was at least you tried it and who knows what you may gain.

Melissa


edt
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   Posted 4/29/2009 6:47 AM (GMT -7)   

Hi Suzane,

I agree that there are alot of treatments that DON'T work out there.  However, coming from the Alternative world there are alot of treatments that sound far out that actually do work.  They may not relieve the pain completely, but they may make it more bearable.  Most of us are permanently stuck in our situations, but hope should never be lost!

Suzane, everyone cares and I think that all the posts show you that!  The only person who has to believe in the choice you made to pursue this is you!  I, myself have done many many treatments that people thought to be hocus....some were, but most helped.  Whether it was to lower my stress level, cut some of the spasm or help me sleep better, they did do something.  Make a list of all your symptoms before you go, physical and mental....60-120 days from now (after the treatments) pull the list and see how many things have changed.  It take 90-120 days for the cellular changes to occur.  I have found this to be a valid way to chart progress from any treatment I have tried.  If at the end of that time, nothing has changed then you will know for sure if it was worth the try.

Good luck and I am praying for a positive outcome from this treatment.

XXOO
Patti

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