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anice
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   Posted 4/27/2009 1:51 PM (GMT -7)   
The post op pain is bad. If I move the wrong way or try to get out of bed I all but cry. I am trying to be careful. I am not used to getting out of bed like this-rolling to my side,pushing myself to sitting and then getting up. I am trying to be patient with myself. It has only been 5 days since my surgery. I can't get comfortabe. I am having to sleep on my sides with a throw pillow between my knees. So I not only have this surgery pain,but both hips hurt too. I can't lie on my back more than a couple minutes.
I am taking percocet 10,flexiril,elavil(at night). I am suposed to take the percocet every 4 hours. It isn't lasting that long. I called my doctor today and explained it to the nurse and asked if they could give me something to take along with it. When she called back she said it is the strongest that he would go by mouth-there wasn't much that could be added to it. They called in phenergan to take with it. She said it can enhance the percocet to act differently. I thaught it was just for nausea and vomiting. I did get if filled. I am due for my next dose in a few minutes,maybe it will work. I am really only getting 2 1/2 or 3 hours of relief at a time. Have any of you taken the phenergan with percocet?  Does it help?
I am feeling pretty wimpy right now. I wasn't stupid. I knew surgery would hurt. But this is way worse than I imagined...
Anice

White Beard
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   Posted 4/27/2009 2:32 PM (GMT -7)   
anice
That is correct phenergan does enhance the effect of the percocet, it is often given with demeral in an IV mixture and other pain meds.Which is what they gave in the ER a few weeks ago. In the Mosbys  drug guide it is list "as an adjunct to analgesics for the control of postoperative pain"  I hope it works for you!
 I sure wish I could say something that would just make your pain go away, You are still in my prayers I do hope you start feeling better.
I send you all my best wishes for a speedy recovery!

{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{[Hugs to You}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}

White Beard


  I'm Retired USAF, went back to school and became an RN, and now am on full disalbility!--Degenerative Disc (affecting mostly the thorasic disc but all levels involved), C6/7 laminectomy/diskectomy& fusion, Osteoarthritis, Ulcerative colitis, Chronic Pain, Fibromyalgia, Complex Sleep Apnea, and host of other things to spice up my life!(NOT!) Medications: Oxycontin, Percocet, Baclofen, Sulfasalazine, Metoprolol, Folic Acid, Supplemental O2 at 3lpm with VPAP Adapt SV

Post Edited (White Beard) : 4/27/2009 3:39:56 PM (GMT-6)


Chartreux
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   Posted 4/27/2009 3:19 PM (GMT -7)   
Anice, wish I knew what to say, but you'll be in my thoughts and prayers
in hopes that your pain lessens...
lots and lots of soft hugz........
(((((((((((((Anice))))))))))))))))))))
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golitho
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   Posted 4/27/2009 5:20 PM (GMT -7)   
BIG HUGS Anice, really sorry to hear you're in so much pain.

Tirzah
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   Posted 4/27/2009 5:39 PM (GMT -7)   
Anice,
I agree with White Beard, it should help with the pain a little. It also may make you sleepier so maybe you can get some needed rest. If you can't get anything more orally, maybe they can try a different route -- patches, IM injections, nasal spray, or such. Worst case scenario, perhaps she could see you in her office for an IV injection. Often those can make a difference for a few days & if it could get the pain under control maybe you could finally take a turn for the better.

healing wishes,
frances

PAlady
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   Posted 4/27/2009 9:57 PM (GMT -7)   
Anice,
Yes, it takes awhile to learn to move right. I still get up that way. My PT years ago told me it was a good way to get out of a prone position if you had any back problems.

Are you taking the flexiril during the day, too? I was just curious because after my surgery I needed a muscle relaxant during the day, as well as at night, although it kept me pretty groggy. I use a valium at night now to sleep.

White Beard knows more about these med combos than I do. I think the new med is worth a try. And stress levels can increase pain and we know you've got that.

I hope you can ease your mind some with the help of your Mom and others, and then maybe it won't be quite so bad. The surgery pain does get better, though. Just takes time.

PaLady

skeye
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   Posted 4/28/2009 7:28 PM (GMT -7)   
Hi Anice,

I'm sorry that you are having such a rough time postop! Surgery is traumatic. Even if it helps in the end, initially, you often wonder what you got yourself into. Hopefully by now you've tried the new combo of meds & are getting a little more relief. It will take time, but things will get better for you! Hang in there!

Skeye

bluejet2
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   Posted 4/28/2009 8:57 PM (GMT -7)   

Hi Anice:

I'm sorry that you are in so much pain, try to keep in mind that it is temporary, it will get better! 

I remember being in the exact same circumstances and my doctor prescribed Ibuprophen 800mg to take along with the percocette, and I remember thinking I just had surgery, what is Ibuprophen going to do, but it really helped.  It is particularly good with pain caused by inflammation, and it might be the added boost you need to get you through this difficult time.  Of course, I would check with your doctor first to make sure it is OK to take with the other meds you are on.

I will keep you in my thoughts & prayers! 

Lorie

 


mrsm123
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   Posted 4/28/2009 10:05 PM (GMT -7)   
Anice,
I remember all too clearly how utterly painful it was after my fusion. I cried every single time I had to move for two weeks post op. It was so far beyond what I expected and I expected it to hurt like nothing I'd felt before. I gave birth to two of my children without an epidural or any pain meds at all, and let me tell you, I would have rather done that 1000 times than go through that post op period again.....I do feel for you. My husband got me ice packs in the gel form so that they conformed to my back. I couldn't lay on my back either, it hurt like crazy, so I had the pillows behind me, and along side of me and in between my legs and then finally when I could lay on my back for a few minutes, pillows under my legs too.....it does get better but it takes a few days more.....you should start feeling a little better pain wise in another few days. I know it's not soon enough. Why can't your surgeon give you some dilaudid or something a bit stronger? Even if he had to mail it to the pharmacy, it might help you get through the hump of these next few days. Some moist heated towels in the microwave too might help but you really do have to be careful not to heat them too hot and then wrap them in another dry towel to lay on your skin......or better yet, have your mom put some rice in socks ( knee highs work great!) and then warm them in the microwave for a minute or two.....they hold heat longer and don't get so hot you need to worry about burns.....and they conform to you, so you can lay them on the pillows and put them behind your back. You might find them really helpful.......
I'm sorry that I am not more help at the moment. I wish that I could come and help you.
Sandi
PLIF/TLIF Fusion w/Instrumentation L4-5 Spondololysthesis L4-5.Laminectomies L4-5, foraminal stenosis L3-4, L4-5, L5-S1, herniations L3-4, L4-5, L5-S1, central canal stenosis L3-4, L4-5 and L5-S1
POST OP CES 3/30-06
Neurogenic Bladder and Bowel, bilateral numbness legs and feet
Revision for failed Back surgery, pseudoarthrosis L4-5, hemilaminectomies L3-4, L4-5, L5-S1, bmp added to revision fusion, replaced two bent screws that were reversing out of vertebrae - August 2, 2007
On going back pain and neuropathic pain, failed back surgery, consult for scs, decided not to do that at this point.
Adhesive Arachnoiditis also......just what I didn't need..9/08- adding bilateral ulnar neuropathy with severe compression to the mix. They want me to see a surgeon for ulnar nerve surgery, but I'm not biting.
I've seen enough surgeons over the last few years.


anice
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   Posted 4/29/2009 6:37 AM (GMT -7)   
Thank you all for your support. I don't think the phenergan is helping at all. I take 2 of the 25mg along with the percocet 10mg. The pain is still horrible. I can not get comfortable. It hurts to sit in my recliner with a pillow behind my back. It doesn't seem to be getting better. I have been on percocet 7.5 prior to my surgery for months. I think my body is just used to it. I am not addicted and am not drug seeking. I am hurting. I hope that when I recover, I won't need any pain meds anymore. But I am downright miserable. I can't even really tell when I take the percocet. I think I will call my doctor back today and ask them to change it completely. I should not have to be hurting this bad. It has been a week today since my surgery. Ofcourse, I do feel a little better than when I got home,just not alot better. I guess me calling my dr. back will make them mad at me,but atleast it is worth a try. I called my pharmacist yesterday and he agreed that I was probably just used to the percocet and should try another med such as ms-contin or a morphine based med-that it would be stronger,last longer and that I would take much less. I don't want to be a zombie, I just don't think I should hurt like this. My surgeon will probably think I am drug seeking...I don't know what to do. I have an appt. on Friday to get my staples out, but I want relief now
Anice

PAlady
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   Posted 4/29/2009 9:59 AM (GMT -7)   
Anice,
You just had surgery for heavens sake - you're not drug seeking! I'm glad you called and they're going to help you out with something else.

I know it sounds a little off the wall, but is there any possibility your meds have been switched by "someone". You know who I mean. It's maybe more likely that you're dependent on the percocet dose, but it's a thought to keep in mind since you said it felt like they weren't working at all. But you're not the problem when it comes to drugs!

Keep calling your doctor until they give you something that helps. The surgery pain should get better over time - unless you're overdoing it. So please take care and get all the help you can, as we've said.

PaLady

White Beard
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   Posted 4/29/2009 11:04 AM (GMT -7)   
anice
What your experiencing is not all that unusual it seems surgeons often under treat pain when dealing with patients that are on pain meds for CP. I had my Gall Bladder taken out last year and I went through H*** with pain, they wouldn't let me take my Oxycontin before the surgery and afterwards they put me on a demerol pain pump and withheld the Oxycontin, and the demerol was set so that it wasn't helping at all, and the surgeon just couldn't understand why it wasn't working and my pain was so high. Later on my Pain Doctor had a fit about the way I was treated. You are probably right, I am sure that you are just tolerant to you meds and what he is giving you is just not enough! PALady is right My Gosh you just had surgery and your in pain! Your meds aren't handling it! don't even think that your seeking drugs! Your just trying to get rid of the pain!
anice I hope you get your pain adequately treated, and it loses its grip on you! I do wish you only the best!
Your in my thoughts and prayers!
White Beard
  I'm Retired USAF, went back to school and became an RN, and now am on full disalbility!--Degenerative Disc (affecting mostly the thorasic disc but all levels involved), C6/7 laminectomy/diskectomy& fusion, Osteoarthritis, Ulcerative colitis, Chronic Pain, Fibromyalgia, Complex Sleep Apnea, and host of other things to spice up my life!(NOT!) Medications: Oxycontin, Percocet, Baclofen, Sulfasalazine, Metoprolol, Folic Acid, Supplemental O2 at 3lpm with VPAP Adapt SV

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