Cronic Lower back and hip pain - help please

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Hara
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   Posted 5/6/2009 4:18 AM (GMT -7)   
I went to my Chiropractor today because I was having server lower back and hip pain. He did all sorts of things to see if there might be some nerve damage or a slipped disk. He ordered more x-rays plus he gave me a back brace to wear when I'm really tired and my trunk will not hold me up. It actually worked after he put it on. I barely felt any pain in my back or hips at all. I'm also going to talk to my doctor as well.
 
Does anyone else have a problem with this???
 
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anice
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   Posted 5/6/2009 7:39 AM (GMT -7)   
I had the lower back, L buttock and hip pain. Mine was from herniated discs. I also had sciatica pain because of this. I remember all too well how it feels. I was in constant pain every minute of every day. I walked with a limp,because the pain was worse every time I stepped with my left foot. There were times my leg almost wouldn't go, I would slide my foot to walk. Sometime my left foot would flop down. Mine was really severe too. I think it was,no I know it was the worse pain in my life. I do feel for you. I am sorry you are going through this. You do need to see you doctor and get a proper diagnosis so you will know what kind of treatment that you need. He will probably order a MRI,too. I did have the back surgery 2 weeks ago today. I said I would never have back surgery. And at the time I said that,I meant it. But my quality of life was effected so bad from this. I got tired of suffering and working like this was torture. I do hope that this is not what you have. However, I will say that the surgery I had was successful so far. I am dealing with the pain from the surgery itself. And that pain is just in my back. I do have hip pain on both sides, but I think it is because I can't lie on my back but for a few minutes at a time. I lie on my side with a pillow between my knees and then rotate. I think that will get better as I am able to lie different ways. Good luck to you. Please don't let this go without treatment. Sorry to tell you my entire story,but it may not be what you have. you need to see you doctor asap.
Anice

White Beard
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   Posted 5/6/2009 11:01 AM (GMT -7)   
Hara
I agree with anice, actually an MRI is the thing you need to find out if you disc are causing your problems. but you do need to see a good neurologist or orthopedic doctor and find out what is really going on. Xrays do not show impinged nerves roots or herniated or bulging disc, or spinal cord injury, only a MRI or Myleogram will show that! You should really see a Doctor and get a proper Diagnoses.

Good Luck to You

White Beard
  I'm Retired USAF, went back to school and became an RN, and now am on full disalbility!--Degenerative Disc (affecting mostly the thorasic disc but all levels involved), C6/7 laminectomy/diskectomy& fusion, Osteoarthritis, Ulcerative colitis, Chronic Pain, Fibromyalgia, Complex Sleep Apnea, and host of other things to spice up my life!(NOT!) Medications: Oxycontin, Percocet, Baclofen, Sulfasalazine, Metoprolol, Folic Acid, Supplemental O2 at 3lpm with VPAP Adapt SV


Chartreux
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   Posted 5/6/2009 12:35 PM (GMT -7)   
Nice to meet you Hara, but sure wish it was under better circumstances..
I've had low back pain for over ten years now, due to a car accident and well
it can take a toll on you..and I agree with anice as well, get a lower lumber
MRI and maybe even a contrast one..
good luck to you and keep us posted...
HUGZ
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PAlady
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   Posted 5/6/2009 1:28 PM (GMT -7)   
Hi, Hara,
I'm sorry to hear all you're going through. I totally agree with White Beard, though. X-rays will not diagnose the problem. Unfortunately, a lot of chiropractors order X-rays repeatedly because it's all they are authorized to order. You are really at the point that you need a neurologist or othropedic specialist (I prefer a neorologist when it's nerve pain) to order MRI's and see exactly what's going on. And then a course of treatment can be prescribed. I'm not against chiropractors, but for some things they can do harm, so you need to make sure that's what you need. Often Physical Therapists can do a better job, but I don't mean to toss chiropractors to the curb.

Hope this helps some!

PaLady

Hara
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   Posted 5/6/2009 8:08 PM (GMT -7)   

You guys just made me cry. My chiropractor has helped me with my headaches. I am feeling better about that. I'm at the same pointwhere I am thinking I need a good neurologist or orthopedic doctor because I already know that x-rays won't show anything. But I'll get them just for my chiropractor.

I am going to my doctor tomorrow (Thursday). I'm going to tell him everything I told his nurse today.

I am thinking my lower back pain is from several falls off a horse when I was 11-12 before I found out how to stay on...I know when I was at that age in Junior High ( Middle school), I would bend over and get sort of stuck on the way back up. Then my father opened the Back Center. I was on a back swing, where you are upsidedown, and I hear a loud pop on day and then I could bend up and down all I wanted without getting stuck.

HARA 

 


PAlady
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   Posted 5/6/2009 8:34 PM (GMT -7)   
Hara,
I'm sorry if we made you cry! I know we were just trying to help and offer our opinions. It's the best we can do since we're not doctors.

I hope things work out for you.

PaLady

cshelp
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   Posted 5/6/2009 8:35 PM (GMT -7)   

Hara

I hope you get the right answers and find a good MD. Try not to wear the back brace a lot, take breaks, my neurosurgeon doesn't believe in back braces. He told me the brace makes one's back muscles lazy and weak. I had my lumbar spine fused and he didn't allow a back brace. he wanted me to walk. Do you use a heating pad? That might help calm the pain. Good luck. cshelp


Chartreux
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   Posted 5/6/2009 8:52 PM (GMT -7)   
Awe, Hara, didn't mean to make you cry, just was offering up advise...
Lots of soft hugz and keep us posted as to how things go tomorrow, your primary doc might
know the correct specialist to send you to, good luck to you....
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Hara
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   Posted 5/6/2009 10:18 PM (GMT -7)   
PAlady said...
Hara,
I'm sorry if we made you cry! I know we were just trying to help and offer our opinions. It's the best we can do since we're not doctors.

I hope things work out for you.

PaLady
I was crying because all of you are so helpful and I know I'm not alone in this.

Hara
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   Posted 5/6/2009 10:22 PM (GMT -7)   
cshelp said...

Hara

I hope you get the right answers and find a good MD. Try not to wear the back brace a lot, take breaks, my neurosurgeon doesn't believe in back braces. He told me the brace makes one's back muscles lazy and weak. I had my lumbar spine fused and he didn't allow a back brace. he wanted me to walk. Do you use a heating pad? That might help calm the pain. Good luck. cshelp

I have been extra tired today and I have only worn it for an hour this evening. I don't do it all the time. When my back hurts I bend over forwards like I've got bone degeneration there or something.


PAlady
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   Posted 5/6/2009 10:25 PM (GMT -7)   
Hara,
Whew! I'm glad nothing I said caused tears!

You are definitely not alone, and I know how good that feels. I think everyone on the site does. It's an amazing family we have here!

PaLady

edt
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   Posted 5/7/2009 5:43 AM (GMT -7)   

Hi Hara,

Welcome to our family...as usual my friends who have posted have said it all and very well!  I can so relate to why you cried!!  I have felt so deeply at times the comforting words of all my HW Family, that I have cried as well, they are good tears for sure!  When no one else understands you will always be able to count on US!! 

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   Posted 5/7/2009 5:54 AM (GMT -7)   
 
 
Hara,
Do you also go to a PM Doc?  I know that my PM won't let me see a chiropractor...I have had a bad experience with one in the past.  I can't imagine going to both... They seem to work against each other...
 
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anice
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   Posted 5/7/2009 9:08 AM (GMT -7)   
I have read many posts that have made me cry,too. They were good tears, the ones like you described. No, my friend, you are not alone. As long as we all have eachother, we are not alone. I feel so different around my family. It is like they don't understand. I know they want to and I know they care. It is just that they can't possibly understand how I feel because they haven't experienced it. The ones here in the forum DO understand because that is why we are all here- this chronic pain is why we are here. I feel very fortunate to be a part of all of you.
Keep us posted on how you dr. appt went.Take care and keep your head up.
Anice







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Hara
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   Posted 5/7/2009 1:49 PM (GMT -7)   
uniquelyme said...
 
 
Hara,
Do you also go to a PM Doc?  I know that my PM won't let me see a chiropractor...I have had a bad experience with one in the past.  I can't imagine going to both... They seem to work against each other...
 
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What is a PM? I don't understand.

White Beard
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   Posted 5/7/2009 2:21 PM (GMT -7)   
Hara
Do you go to a Pain Clinic or a Pain Specialist, you know a Pain Doctor, that treats your chronic pain. My Pain Doctor I see treats me for my chronic Pain I go once a month for my pain meds and he also gives epidural steriod injections, and other procedures to control pain, mine also orders some test and procedures to find the causes of ones pain.

White Beard
  I'm Retired USAF, went back to school and became an RN, and now am on full disalbility!--Degenerative Disc (affecting mostly the thorasic disc but all levels involved), C6/7 laminectomy/diskectomy& fusion, Osteoarthritis, Ulcerative colitis, Chronic Pain, Fibromyalgia, Complex Sleep Apnea, and host of other things to spice up my life!(NOT!) Medications: Oxycontin, Percocet, Baclofen, Sulfasalazine, Metoprolol, Folic Acid, Supplemental O2 at 3lpm with VPAP Adapt SV


modelmaker
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   Posted 5/7/2009 3:06 PM (GMT -7)   
Hara,

Welcome to our forum. I'm sorry about some the abbreviations we use. PM can mean pain managment as in a specialized doc or a pain program depending on the context of the sentance. It can also mean pain medication, again depending on the context.

A pain managment doctor is one who limits his/her practice to the treatment of chronic pain. A good PM doctor will treat chronic pain with a broad array of tools in the arsenal. The pain managment program is developed for a specific patient's needs and desires. It may or may not include PT (physical therapy), medication, electronics (TENS units - transdernal electric nerve stimulator), SCS (spinal cord stimulator) and many other techniques.

PM is a very specialized area of medicine and not all aspects of pain treatment are fully understood even by the doctors. Nerves and the way they respond to disease and trauma are very complex. The interaction between nerves and the brain (pain perception) are especially complex. A good PM will have spent many years in school learning the specialty and will constantly be reading the new research material as it becomes available. Unfortunately, PM docs can be misunderstood as only narcotics dispensers. There is much, much more to pain treatment than just narcotic pain medications.

I hope you find a good one. It may take some time and research to find someone you feel comfortable with. But it's well worth the effort. Every step toward pain reduction is a step toward a better quality of life.

I've rambled on enough. Let us know how we can help you.

Best,

Modelmaker

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   Posted 5/7/2009 8:21 PM (GMT -7)   
Hi Hara,

Welcome to the CP board! I'm sorry that you have to join us here, but we are more than happy to have you! As you've probably already noticed, we are like a family here. The people who post here are some of the most caring, understanding, knowledgeable people out there! I always feel so privileged to have found this site!

I hope that your doctor's appointment today went well, and you are on your way to getting some answers!

One other thing about pain management doctors - I've learned from my friends here, that some only do procedures (ie. nerve blocks, epidurals, & other pain relieving injections and surgeries), whereas others do both procedures AND prescribe medication. Ideally, you want one that does both. Nerve blocks, etc, can be life-savers for some people, but not for others (unfortunately, I am one of those who does not respond to blocks), so you want to be able to attack this thing from many different directions. Medications are not necessarily just opioids, they include things like certain antidepressants & seizure medication which have pain relieving properties, especially necrologic pain. If you find something that works, it will usually be a combination of several of these modalities! Best of luck, and welcome to the family!

Skeye

golitho
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   Posted 5/7/2009 8:43 PM (GMT -7)   
Hi Hara, sorry to hear about your pain. I also have only just started with lower back pain and hip pain, my rheumy feels my problem is probably osteoarthritis with bursitis in my hips, so different causes but I can still relate. I took 2 codeine tabs 2 hours ago and I'm hanging out for 2 hours to pass so I can take 2 more!!! One of those days. Do cortisone injections help does anyone know? It seems to be all that I'm offered except for hydro therapy which my dr is looking into. Hara I hope you get some answers soon. I see an osteopath but he has got to the stage where he says its all inflammation and he can do no more for me...such is life, roll on the next 2 hours....

Hara
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   Posted 5/7/2009 11:00 PM (GMT -7)   
White Beard said...
Hara
Do you go to a Pain Clinic or a Pain Specialist, you know a Pain Doctor, that treats your chronic pain. My Pain Doctor I see treats me for my chronic Pain I go once a month for my pain meds and he also gives epidural steriod injections, and other procedures to control pain, mine also orders some test and procedures to find the causes of ones pain.

White Beard

I went to see my Dr. today. He finally caved and gave me some actual pain meds. No I haven't gotten far enough for a Pain Specialist. I just think life is catching up with me. When I was younger about 11 or 12 I fell off a horse I was trying to ride several times. Plus I have taken other spills due to my feet not properly supported like they should have been.

Hara
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   Posted 5/7/2009 11:11 PM (GMT -7)   
skeye said...
Hi Hara,

Welcome to the CP board! I'm sorry that you have to join us here, but we are more than happy to have you! As you've probably already noticed, we are like a family here. The people who post here are some of the most caring, understanding, knowledgeable people out there! I always feel so privileged to have found this site!

I hope that your doctor's appointment today went well, and you are on your way to getting some answers!

One other thing about pain management doctors - I've learned from my friends here, that some only do procedures (ie. nerve blocks, epidurals, & other pain relieving injections and surgeries), whereas others do both procedures AND prescribe medication. Ideally, you want one that does both. Nerve blocks, etc, can be life-savers for some people, but not for others (unfortunately, I am one of those who does not respond to blocks), so you want to be able to attack this thing from many different directions. Medications are not necessarily just opioids, they include things like certain antidepressants & seizure medication which have pain relieving properties, especially necrologic pain. If you find something that works, it will usually be a combination of several of these modalities! Best of luck, and welcome to the family!

Skeye
I have Fibromyalgia also. I told my Internest doctor that the Gampentin 600mg 3x's a day just wasn't cutting it. It was not helping with the pain at all.

Hara
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   Posted 5/7/2009 11:18 PM (GMT -7)   
golitho said...
Hi Hara, sorry to hear about your pain. I also have only just started with lower back pain and hip pain, my rheumy feels my problem is probably osteoarthritis with bursitis in my hips, so different causes but I can still relate. I took 2 codeine tabs 2 hours ago and I'm hanging out for 2 hours to pass so I can take 2 more!!! One of those days. Do cortisone injections help does anyone know? It seems to be all that I'm offered except for hydro therapy which my dr is looking into. Hara I hope you get some answers soon. I see an osteopath but he has got to the stage where he says its all inflammation and he can do no more for me...such is life, roll on the next 2 hours....
I took Prednisone (Cortozol, Cortizone) over this last weekend and found out that I could not handle it. It made my blood sugar so high I thought I was going to pass out and so sick I wished I had a cold, easier to handle in my book. So it did not work for me but someone else it might.
 
HARA


White Beard
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   Posted 5/8/2009 9:36 PM (GMT -7)   
Hara
Prednisone can really be a double edged sword, it can do so many good things and it is such a useful drug, but it can have some really nasty side affects and can in some cases be very harmful! And some people just can't take it! It definitely sounds like your one of them!
I wish you well!

White Beard
  I'm Retired USAF, went back to school and became an RN, and now am on full disalbility!--Degenerative Disc (affecting mostly the thorasic disc but all levels involved), C6/7 laminectomy/diskectomy& fusion, Osteoarthritis, Ulcerative colitis, Chronic Pain, Fibromyalgia, Complex Sleep Apnea, and host of other things to spice up my life!(NOT!) Medications: Oxycontin, Percocet, Baclofen, Sulfasalazine, Metoprolol, Folic Acid, Supplemental O2 at 3lpm with VPAP Adapt SV


Hara
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   Posted 5/8/2009 10:18 PM (GMT -7)   

Ok everyone I'm back. OMG I feel so much better. My Internest doctor is going to give the order for x-rays so my Chiropractor can see them also. The doc finally gave me some pain killers. My hips and lower back hurt so bad. I am hoping I can get through work on Monday and Thursday of this coming week. I'm getting ready to go to bed for a while. Good night all.

HARA

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