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Chutz
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   Posted 5/12/2009 9:57 PM (GMT -7)   
If you are new to the forum or to our Koffee Klatch please feel free to join right in. This is a time where we do NOT talk about our pain and misery. A time to focus on something fun and/or enjoyable. You don't need any unique insight or wisdom to participate...just your thoughts and sentiments are what we enjoy. So today's topic is..... <drum roll>

What is your favorite tradition? This can be any kind of tradition that you either now or have participated in or one you would like to start.

For me my favorite tradition is going to cut our Christmas tree. The gang, which might be anywhere from just hubby and I to a couple of carloads of family, travel to a tree farm that I've been going to for about 30 years. They always have something I love and I enjoy picking and watching hubby cut the tree. And the kids! They have such a blast running through the place. You would think we keep them locked in a box the way they frolic through the trees laughing and calling..."here's the best one ever!"...lol On the way out they all get little candy canes from the folks who own the farm. Then at home I make hot cocoa and often we have another project planned like baking cookies.

For me it's a time when my kids and grandkids are near and having fun. Most likely the best time of the year for me. How about you? Do you have any traditions you enjoy?

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White Beard
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   Posted 5/12/2009 10:15 PM (GMT -7)   
Chutzie

I have carried on a family tradition that was always done in my family since I can remember. We always had T-bone steaks by candle light on Christmas Eve. I have carried on that tradition in my family, but I modified it a little, I cook Rib Eye steaks on the grill on Christmas Eve, and have fried mushrooms and onions in butter, and a potato ( usually baked) and a toss salad, and it is served by candle light with all the light turned off except the christmas lights and the candles at the table. When the kids were home, after the dinner I would read a christmas story at the table after the meal was over.
By far Christmas is my favorite time of year and I am just like a little kid when it comes to decorating, and christmas music, and candy and cookies! I just Love Christmas! turn
White Beard


  I'm Retired USAF, went back to school and became an RN, and now am on full disalbility!--Degenerative Disc (affecting mostly the thorasic disc but all levels involved), C6/7 laminectomy/diskectomy& fusion, Osteoarthritis, Ulcerative colitis, Chronic Pain, Fibromyalgia, Complex Sleep Apnea, and host of other things to spice up my life!(NOT!) Medications: Oxycontin, Percocet, Baclofen, Sulfasalazine, Metoprolol, Folic Acid, Supplemental O2 at 3lpm with VPAP Adapt SV


Gretchen1
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   Posted 5/13/2009 6:34 AM (GMT -7)   
TEA.......tea, tea, tea, tea!!!!  I have to have tea every afternoon when I get home from work.  There is something so soothing about doing this small thing just for myself.  I love to use a teapot and a nice mug or china cup.  I drink white or green tea, but my all time favorite is rooibos.  That is what started it all for me!  I was in South Africa years ago visiting my niece and she got me addicted to it.  It has no caffiene and has the most delightful taste especially sweetened with a bit of milk (soy for me) and sugar (stevia for me). 
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anice
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   Posted 5/13/2009 7:41 AM (GMT -7)   
Chutzie, You really got me thinking this morning. I can honestly say that we don't really have any specific tradition. Growing up, we used to have Christmas Eve at my moms' house with ham, potatoe salad and an assortment of finger foods. We would open the presents for the family then. We all had different plans and obligations as we got older and my mom lost her house when I was pregnant with my daughter. So that one kinda stopped.

I don't really have any tradition that my family has. My son has helped me with the cooking on Christmas eve,late at night for the last several years. That has somewhat started to be one. We laugh and carry on. It is just the two of us and is a sweet,special time.

I will definitely do some thinking. I want my children to look back on their childhood with fond memories. Chutzie, the cutting down of your Christmas tree sounds like a great one. And WhiteBeard yours sounds great,too. Those are the good memories that I want.
Anice

PAlady
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   Posted 5/13/2009 12:12 PM (GMT -7)   
I want to start a new tradition where we all go to White Beard's house for Christmas Eve! smilewinkgrin

I have to think about this one. I remember traditions from my childhood that bring a tear to my eye, the main one being having Italian sausage sandwhiches with homemade eggnog at my cousin's house after midnight mass on Christmas Eve. Then I was allowed to go home and open one present. My parents are now gone, but my cousin's mother, who made all those goodies, is now 90 and she proudly told me she doesn't take a single medication (don't I wish!!!!).

As I got older and after my father died, Christmas Eve became a time for my mother and I, and after she died, I'd spend it at home making pumpkin pies and wrapping presents. The fun was while my cat was alive (he made it to 20!) he "helped" wrap - the curling ribbon was his specialty - and it really did become a new tradition for me.

But like Gretchen illustrates, some traditions are simple and not about holidays. I've got to give that more thought in my life. I wonder about how we develop new traditions for ourselves as our lives change.

PaLady :-)

White Beard
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   Posted 5/13/2009 12:42 PM (GMT -7)   
PALady
 
You said:(" wonder about how we develop new traditions for ourselves as our lives change.") What you have said, makes me wonder about traditions that we already have, will they change as our lives change?.  I wonder if this Christmas if I am not with the kids will I still grill out Rib Eyes if I am alone? and will I still  have my dinner by candle light? I really don't know, as I had never really thought about it!
 
 PALady if you don't mind me asking how are the Holidays for you? Do you still do pies Christmas eve and wrapp presents? Are you alone on Christmas eve? I ask because this has brought up a new train of thought for me, and I must admit I hadn't thought about being alone on the holidays, I mean I spent this Easter alone, but  thats is not like Christmas time! And even now I don't know if I will be alone at Christmas, but it is always a possibility and to be honest I really don't find the thought to be very comfortable!
 
White Beard


  I'm Retired USAF, went back to school and became an RN, and now am on full disalbility!--Degenerative Disc (affecting mostly the thorasic disc but all levels involved), C6/7 laminectomy/diskectomy& fusion, Osteoarthritis, Ulcerative colitis, Chronic Pain, Fibromyalgia, Complex Sleep Apnea, and host of other things to spice up my life!(NOT!) Medications: Oxycontin, Percocet, Baclofen, Sulfasalazine, Metoprolol, Folic Acid, Supplemental O2 at 3lpm with VPAP Adapt SV


PAlady
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   Posted 5/13/2009 1:00 PM (GMT -7)   
White Beard,
I have tended to find that when it comes to the "big" traditions - like major holidays like Christmas - I've had what in retrospect I would say are "transition" years in between developing new traditions. I have spent some Christmas Eve's alone and crying, even though I have a large extended family, and could pop in at any of their homes and help them decorate or whatever. Somehow it didn't seem the same. I lived with a SO for most of my 30's and when that relationship ended, I found myself alone on Christmas Eve with the dog and the cat, but my mother was still alive. So it kind of became her and I, then Christmas Day I still go to my cousin's where the family gathers. That one hasn't changed - yet. But my cousin (where Christmas Day events are held) are retired and thinking of moving south for part of the winter. They're also growing weary of all the work that Christmas Day takes. So I do think one day that may change, too.

I'm kind of rambling here. New holiday traditions for me weren't necessarily planned in advance, but kind of happened. Once my mother was gone, and I was alone wrapping presents and baking pies with my cat (the dog had died), I realized that had BECOME my tradition, even though it wasn't what others would think of as a tradition. When my cat was sick in his last year, I was glad meds. could get him through another few months and we had our last Christmas together and he was still "helping" me wrap and I realized how much that had meant. Since he died, I would still wrap and do pies, but it's kind of flat if you know what I mean. Plus CP entered my life and that has made changes. Last Christmas was the first time I did not make the pies. Because bending down was too hard. Making the pumpking pies themselves was a tradition I took over for my mother, as she was the specialist at that. I feel in a bit of a limbo right now, probably like you do.

There would be those who would say you could (and may need to) create a new family for yourself, especially if you don't move near any of your children. You could invite friends over for those steaks! But no, it won't be the same. But you may find friends have their own traditions, and may either invite you to join in, or in time you may find others who are also alone and you create a new grouping. That I've not done yet, as I still have a lot of extended family around. CP does matter, though, as I could never do anything that required a lot of physical stuff on my own.

Anyway, it's something to think about, isn't it? You may find you need to spend a Christmas grieving before you're ready to create new traditions. I've found that to be true.

PaLady

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   Posted 5/13/2009 8:27 PM (GMT -7)   
Baking cookies on Thanksgiving week, nothing better than the smell of fresh home baked cookies
and that's about when the weather here starts cooling us down.. I bake them and my daughter
and hubby decorate and eat em, hehehe...but it is fun....
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White Beard
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   Posted 5/14/2009 12:41 AM (GMT -7)   
PALady
Thank-You for your post I do have one question about your post yousaid:("I lived with a SO for most of my 30's and when that relationship ended, I found myself alone on Christmas Eve with the dog and the cat, but my mother was still alive. ") What is a SO? I guess I am not well versed in all the terminology but I don't know what that means. I understand what you are saying about not wanting to pop in on extended family even though you would be welcome, and I being alone and crying. I don't have any family or extended family close by, my daughters are 500 mile away, and my parents passed away along time ago my mother in 1990 and my father in 98, al my cousins and other relatives are all 200 to 300 mile away. My family had been my wifes family.So I can definitely picture my christmas eve being much like yours, being alone, and crying! I spend so much time alone now, thank God for the internet and this forum!
PALady I Thank-You for your advice and insight! May I ask why you never got another dog or cat? I miss my dog it has been well over a year since I had to have him put down, I have often thought about getting another dog, but my wife didn't want another one, but I found being on disability and with my pain, my dog was great company for me during the day. Now I won't get either a dog or cat till after the house is sold and I know where I am going to live! I don't know if I am going to stay in this area, or move or what, I might stay for a while after the divorce is finalized as I have my doctors and medical, but probably not for ever as I have nothing really her to keep me. The thought of the holidays especially Christmas seems so unsettling to me! It will be a time of grieving!
I do think you are a wise one PALady!

White Beard
  I'm Retired USAF, went back to school and became an RN, and now am on full disalbility!--Degenerative Disc (affecting mostly the thorasic disc but all levels involved), C6/7 laminectomy/diskectomy& fusion, Osteoarthritis, Ulcerative colitis, Chronic Pain, Fibromyalgia, Complex Sleep Apnea, and host of other things to spice up my life!(NOT!) Medications: Oxycontin, Percocet, Baclofen, Sulfasalazine, Metoprolol, Folic Acid, Supplemental O2 at 3lpm with VPAP Adapt SV


PAlady
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   Posted 5/14/2009 9:11 AM (GMT -7)   
White Beard,
I don't have much time now (off to my semi-annual neurologist appt - joy, joy!) but SO means significant other. Sorry! He and I never formally married, but again that was many years ago.

I do want you to know I don't cry on Christmas Eve anymore. It's just every time there's a major change I find there's a transition time. The first Christmas Eve without my cat was one! I'd love to get another cat, and am visiting the Humane Society as a substitute for now (I'm the "treat lady"!), but I'm not sure either what's in my future. Should I have to move a pet would make it more complicated, and if I had to give one up that would be even harder on me! A dog is way too hard physically for me to take care of alone, although I love them.

I suppose I've gotten this thread way off track, and it is from a couple of days ago, but I wonder what new traditions other people have come up with as they've changed their lives - especially changes from CP? Anyone?

Thanks White Beard! - Oh, one more thing. It's not too early to start planning your Christmas. There's nothing that says you have to spend one alone crying!! You may start talking with friends now, and invite them over for steaks, or plan your trip to visit one of your children! Then it will be a different Christmas, but you'll know it won't be alone!

PaLady

White Beard
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   Posted 5/14/2009 3:21 PM (GMT -7)   
PALady
I used to have a cat long time ago, I like cats and dogs to of course! Where I live I often wish I had a cat, especially in the fall when it starts getting cold and it is harvest time, the mice start coming in, most of them are brown kind of looks like a cross between a mouse and a hamster, anyway a good mouser cat would really be nice to have! Because you sure can't keep them out, and I hate setting those darn traps!
 
You have done it again PALady you have set  my mind a thingking! idea Maybe Christmas won't be so bad, just different! Maybe even make some new traditions!
 
White Beard
P.S. I don't think Chutzie minds if we hijacked her threat just alittle. Do you Chutzie? wink
  I'm Retired USAF, went back to school and became an RN, and now am on full disalbility!--Degenerative Disc (affecting mostly the thorasic disc but all levels involved), C6/7 laminectomy/diskectomy& fusion, Osteoarthritis, Ulcerative colitis, Chronic Pain, Fibromyalgia, Complex Sleep Apnea, and host of other things to spice up my life!(NOT!) Medications: Oxycontin, Percocet, Baclofen, Sulfasalazine, Metoprolol, Folic Acid, Supplemental O2 at 3lpm with VPAP Adapt SV


Chutz
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   Posted 5/14/2009 4:13 PM (GMT -7)   
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