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cshelp
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   Posted 5/30/2009 3:57 PM (GMT -7)   
First of all, I would like to thank all of you for listening to my complaints and worries. This forum has helped me thru the last couple of weeks. I don't know how I would had done it. I had another bad experience at the PM doctor. I went to see him, he asked what I wanted and what I was looking for. He examined me. I told him where the pain was. I told he about the terrible GI symptoms were. He then wanted to set up for a TENS unit, change my meds, put me on Cymbalta, reduce the Elavil that my neurosurgeon just increased. I asked him what I could take for the pain. He then told me that the pysch md at the last PM doc who had seen me for maybe fifteen minutes with answering a questionaire that I shouldnt take pain meds. He then told me I shouldnt have changed my meds that the PM doctor put me on. I told him that I was out of meds 3 days early and that this office wouldnt  allow me to see them and I was working a lot. He said that was not a reason to do that. Honesty gets me no where. I wont bother you guys anymore. I have to live with this pain. I am afraid to go off the neurontin, start the Cymbalta because without something for breakthru, what if it doesnt work. I made an appt with the other PM doctor my PCP recommended. Why dont doctors understand pain? He even made the comment if it was ten years ago that I changed my meds it would be different. How?? My husband thinks I should live with what pain I got and he commented I would be happy if I got a life supply of meds. I also went to the doctor in the morning and that is my best time of the day. By the end of the day my legs are killing me and my back feels like it was run over by a truck. I dont know when I will find that one doctor who will understand, be there for me if I need an answer or support. I pay for healthcare but I have been let down. I am angry that with chronic pain I have been labeled. If I could change things, I would have never got in a car accident, never would have got a lesion on my brain 3 years ago that made me lose my memory. We cant change things but have to keep getting up everyday moving forward. You know it is not even about getting relief for the pain, I need a doctor that will take care of me, understand my history, and want to try to keep me healthy. The path I am going down right now is, I am working so much I am slowly destroying my back and the pain isnt going to get better just worse. I will keep going, care for other people the best way I now how. The next PM doctor I go to next week, I am just going to be honest tell him my history and not even ask for anything. I wont bother any of you anymore Thank You
 
cshelp

fatherjohn
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   Posted 5/30/2009 4:14 PM (GMT -7)   
Cshelp, First, you are not bothering us. We all feel like we complain too much and ask for help more than we should. That is part of life with CP. Don't allow one or two or even more bad visits with doctors cause you to separate from people that care and want to encourage you. I know how you feel that when you are honest, it seems that the honesty is used against you. I just told my PMS that I have changed the way I am taing my pain meds. I told him that since my worst time is a night, I am at times not taking any during the day and taking them all at night. He said as long as I don't take more than the daily total that he has prescribed. Some doctors listen and others don't. I do not think we can do anything about that. Keep your appointment with the PM doctor and tell him your symtoms and what you have tried so far, what has worked and what has not. Keep in touch with us and let us know how you are doing. Also, let us know how the next doctor treats you and what approach he is going to take. But don't, let me say that again, please don't stop posting and letting us know how you are doing, even if it is not good. We care.

anice
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   Posted 5/30/2009 4:37 PM (GMT -7)   
cshelp, I wish that I lived close to you. I would put my arms around you, hold you and give you a long hug. So, before I go on, I do want to offer you a hug:
((((((((((((((((((((cshelp))))))))))))))))))))

I read your post and then reread it again. First of all, please do not say that you won't "bother" us anymore. This is a chronic pain forum. We all are in chronic pain. And we all are all here to encourage and support eachother. I understand how you can feel that way. I feel that way myself many times. I think this forum is such a wonderful place to be. I have personally been blessed many times over by all of you. It feels like family to me. I hope that you feel the same way. I think it is wonderful to be able to share how you feel without being judged or shamed or misunderstood. Please let us be here for you. Please let us help you through this extremely hard time in your life.

I do not understand about your Dr. visit. Why would he not give you anything for pain because of a pysch. questionnaire? I agree with you. Drs. are supposed to help us live our lives as best as we can and as comfortable as we can be. No it is not your fault that you had a car accident. And no, it is not your fault that you had a lesion on your brain that made you lose your memory. No one would have wanted those things to happen to them. But those things did happen. And you are in pain. That is the reality of the situation. Now, you just have to try to find a doctor who will help you to live a better quality of life than what you have. I know that is easier said than done. But there has to be one out there. You should not have to live your life like this!!! Is there any chance of going back to that doctor and trying to explain the situation to him and see if he will be willing to help you? Maybe he didn't slow down enough to sit and listen to the actual reality of what you are saying. You mentioned going to another PM next week. Hopefully he will be able to help you.

Are you in the medical field? Are you a nurse? I was just wondering b/c it said that you are taking care of people every day. Is there any way you can cut down on your hours at all, if even for a short time? Can you schedule a vacation so you can rest and take it easy for a change?

I wish I had something better to say than what I have said. I want to help you. I just wish I knew the "magical" words that would help. I do want you to try real hare to keep your head up. I know it is hard. But you have to keep going. Something has got to change. You have to find an inner strength to keep on trying and not give up until you get some adequate help. You should not be made to suffer like this. I know it is hard. But you have to keep on trying...

Please keep posting as much and as often as you feel like. I know it has helped me alot. And you are not complaining. We all really care about you. I want you to understand and believe that!!! I wish we could give you one really big group hug.
One more thing, when we feel like we've gotten to the end of our rope, it is then when you just tie a knot in it and swing. Keep hanging on. You will make it. And again, let us help you!!
Anice

Post Edited (anice) : 5/30/2009 5:41:37 PM (GMT-6)


PAlady
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   Posted 5/30/2009 4:43 PM (GMT -7)   
Cshelp,
I can't agree enough with all fatherjohn has said. You are not bothering us! This site is here for us to come and vent and ramble (I'm the queen of ramlbling!) and think outloud and cry and laugh and be scared and just about anything else that's legal! Please, don't stop coming here!

And your comment about honesty not getting your anywhere I could really relate to. It's sad, isn't it? I have always been very honest with people and my doctors but then when you find it gets you a kick in the butt and then some, when you're trying desperately just to cling to what life you have left, it's easy to understand that sometimes we become less than forthcoming. And lately I find I just can't keep it all straight in my mind anymore. Or on paper, for that matter. Just making and revising a iist of medications that's on my computer is becoming challenging and I'm sure one of these days I'll forget something, or forget a dose was changed, or whatever, and get accused of lying.

Cshelp - don't go anywhere! You're among friends who understand here.

Hugs,

PaLady

cshelp
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   Posted 5/30/2009 5:48 PM (GMT -7)   
Fatherjohn,anice,PAlady,
Honesty is wearing me out. I made a mistake by running out of meds, but I was scared and I told her that. Not one doctor has dug into my past and I thought I had buried it but to dig it up and throw it against me like a rock has really torn the inside of me up. I cant pull myself out of this depression. I told that first PM doc why I ran out and that she dug up my past that was 3 years ago. The doctors were surprised I got better and went back to work as a nurse. Anice, I wish I could take a vacation, but just driving to the doctor 30 minutes away sitting in a waiting room and driving home yesterday, my legs were screaming last night and cramped up all day, they just settled down. I am going to the PM doc here in town so its closer and I set up an appt with the pysch doc I used to see 3 1/2 years ago even before I was hopsitalized. Maybe it will help maybe it wont. Work these days is the only thing that keeps me going. My neurologist told me I needed to take care of myself the way I take care of others but without a good doctor how how can I do that. I wish I could pack up my bags and move away so I know no one, so I could breath, relax and not have a worry in the world LOL Easier said than done. thanks for listening The hugs made the tears roll but tears help sometimes cshelp

edt
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   Posted 5/30/2009 9:05 PM (GMT -7)   

Cshelp,

Like everyone else has said, we are your friends here and do care about you!  None of us see anything you have said as complaining, CP is a tough world to live in and worse when you don't have a Dr. who you trust or understands or wants to understand your situation!

PLEASE don't give up, there is a PM Dr. who WILL help you and PLEASE stay in touch and keep posting you are safe here with us!  Even though we can't fix this for you we are here with our hearts and understanding to hopefully make it a little easier for you!!

I am sending you warm sunny hugs from Phoenix!

(((((((((((((((((((((((Cshelp))))))))))))))))))

XXOO
Patti


White Beard
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   Posted 5/30/2009 9:18 PM (GMT -7)   
cshelp
I wish I could definitely tell you that things will get better for you, but I to, know how Doctors can be sometimes, and I agree it is a shame the way your being treated! I do hope that this next PM and your Psych Doc will be better, and be able to help you. Your frustration is understandable,  but please remember, you are NEVER! a bother to us,  you are part of this family that we are all in,  we do understand and we are here to listen, help and give you support, just as you have done for so many of us!
I do wish you well cshelp and I do hope things start getting better for you!
 
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cbear
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   Posted 5/31/2009 3:11 AM (GMT -7)   
hi! im new. first of all wouldn't it be great if we could get all our drs. together in 1 room, for as long as we needed, and we could all work as a team. we could go over all our illnesses, test results, and meds. while we're at it, lets have our pharmacist there, too. another thought....drs. supposedly wont prescribe sufficient pain meds. because they're afraid patients might become addicted and then the drs. would be held liable if any problems arose. why cant we flip that and hold them legally accountable for withholding medications that would reduce their patients' suffering? i honestly dont know whats wrong with our society today. we wouldnt allow animals to suffer without giving them something to ease the pain, yet human beings are allowed to suffer from all types of pain without ample caring and treatment from the medical community. im soooooo happy to have found this site. i will gladly read of yours or others pain and circumstances, because then it means im not alone. the phrase,"it takes one to know one" could certainly apply here. no one else can come close to comprehending the depths of pain and despair that may be felt, unless that person has been there him or her self.

skeye
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   Posted 5/31/2009 3:49 PM (GMT -7)   
Cshelp,

I too want to emphasize what everyone else has said. You are NOT a bother! It is easy to feel like you are complaining when you need support (I know I do), but you're not. We've all been in tough situations regarding our CP, whether it be an experience with a med or doc, etc, or a physical, mental, or emotional state, or a combination. This is one thing that unites us. We all have different pain, but we all have pain. And in our quest to live a less painful, functional life, we all experience obstacles and disappointments, good times and bad times. This allows for a collective understanding. We are all here because we seek support; we seek support for ourselves, and we seek people in need of support. You, my friend, are in need of support at this very moment. You've been traveling a long and bumpy road, and have just run into another dead end. But please, please keep fighting! We all want to give up at times; depression and disappointment come naturally with CP. But there is always a glimmer of hope, you just have to find it. I know that somewhere out there, you will find a doctor who will listen to you and help you to live a better, less painful life. You may have to go through several to find a devoted doc, but they are out there! So please, lean on us for support and keep searching, keep fighting. As lonely as you may feel, you are not alone! If you let us, we can help you through this! (((((((((Cshelp))))))))))

many hugs,
Skeye

Lindaloo
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   Posted 5/31/2009 3:59 PM (GMT -7)   
cshelp,

I echo what has been already said. We are all here for you and I too, offer you gentle hugs. Hang in there. It will all come together soon. I just know it. Keep showing up to the doctor's appointments and telling the doctor(s) how you feel and eventually they will cover your pain adequately. Meanwhile, keep venting and discussing your daily trials with us here. That's what friends are for. And we are all friends -- well, more like family, actually.

cbear, welcome to the forum. I'm glad you are here. You should probably start your own thread to introduce yourself and give us some background on your condition and such, that's if you haven't done so already. We really want to get to know you and include you into our little (growing) CP family.

Gentle Hugs and God's Blessings to all.

Lindaloo
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cshelp
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   Posted 6/2/2009 9:50 PM (GMT -7)   
I am seeing a counselor for my depression on Wed. I have mixed feelings because I am at a loss in my life right now, have had bad experiences with pysh doctors. I never believed in antidepressants, maybe I am too hard on myself but I thought I could always pull myself out of a low in my life. This time I cant. My husband yelled at me today because he brought up the fact that I didnt pick up the Cymbalta at the pharmacy. I dont even know if the PMS called it in, he was in such a hurry to get out of the exam room they never asked me what pharmacy I went to. I told my husband that the doctor yelled at me. My husband wasnt supportive, he said I wasnt listening to the doctor. I will pick up the Cymbalta tommorrow. I go see the other pain doc on Monday. I am scared but I cant go back to that other one, I am weak and fragile with doctors right now. I didnt tell my husband I set up the appt with the pain doc. I have to do this on my own terms. My neurologist told me I could see either doctor. I am sorry I havent responded to a lot of threads, I am very sad, tired and have been working a lot. Hope all is well with everyone.
cshelp

edt
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   Posted 6/3/2009 6:43 AM (GMT -7)   

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XXOO
Patti


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   Posted 6/3/2009 11:47 AM (GMT -7)   
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Lots and Lots of soft HUGZ..
just wanted to says, we luv ya and we know you care, try to get well first
then come back and respond to post when your up to it, we understand and
I hope you can find something to help get you through the depression and give
the cymbalta a try, I'll keep my fingers crossed in hopes that it'll work good for you...
((((((((((((((((((cshelp))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))
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cshelp
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   Posted 6/3/2009 3:53 PM (GMT -7)   

Thanks for all your replies,

I went to see the therapist today. I see a small glimmer of hope. I was there for an 1 1/2 hour and my body hurts all over. He listened to me, screened me for the depression. He said I was in a major depression. I told him how these pain MDs were digging up my past of losing my memory and the accidental overdose of xanax when I was sick 3 years ago when I couldnt think. I asked him why no one had me follow up with pysch after I was discharged by the court systems. He couldn't understand why no one followed up. He also told me that he doesn't want to start the Cymbalta just yet until I see the Pyschiatrist(which is August 11). He said that it is hard to get off of Cymbalta. Does anyone know what he means?? He told me that it was up to me about taking the Elavil for sleep but it is not really working for the sleep and not touching my mood. I see him next week and weekly thereafter until I get into the pysch MD for medication adjustments. He seemed like he cared and I hope I am not setting myself up for disappointment.

cshelp confused


PAlady
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   Posted 6/3/2009 5:11 PM (GMT -7)   
Cshelp,
I'm so glad you went to talk to someone and that it seems hopeful. When you comment about setting yourself up for disappointment, I'm not sure what you mean. Therapists aren't magicians, and can't solve all our problems, but can help us find options and solutions that work for us, but it takes time.

I do wonder about waiting so long for the cymbalta. August is over two months away. Did your PM doctor prescribe it? It takes these medications awhile to take effect, and in the meantime (between now and August 11) your depression may stay the same or even worsen. I would talk to the doctor who prescribed the cymbalta, and tell them what your therapist said and see if you should wait. Maybe the two of them could consult with eachother briefly. I just hate to see you depressed when a different anti-depressant may help both your mood and the pain. But you need to make the call with your doctor.

Hugs,

PaLady

cshelp
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   Posted 6/3/2009 8:58 PM (GMT -7)   
PaLady,

What I meant as being set-up for disappointment with the therapist was, I lak trust in the health care system, he understood that right away and I dont want to be labeled. When I worked at a hospital, I worked on rehab right wear my neurologist had control of the unit. He believed in me. I had my first grand mal seizure while at work and that doctor still pushed me and gave me encouragement to finish my nursing degree which I did. He got sick and died and I was lost when he did. I was friends(as I thought so) with his PA, but when I got sick 3 years ago, he put his back against me and wasn't there and that is why it is hard for me to trust doctors. I explained that to my therapist and he was understanding. I am going to meet the other PM doctor on Monday so all my doctors are close and communicate with each other.
cshelp

White Beard
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   Posted 6/3/2009 9:22 PM (GMT -7)   
cshelp
I have you in my prayers, I have my fingers crossed for you, and I am sending you positive vibes, that all your doctors get there act together, and you start getting the proper treatment! I hope your therapist can really help you, I know what it is like to have trust issues with Doctors.
 Just remember cshelp we are here for you!
 
I do wish you only the very best!
 
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  I'm Retired USAF, went back to school and became an RN, and now am on full disalbility!--Degenerative Disc (affecting mostly the thorasic disc but all levels involved), C6/7 laminectomy/diskectomy& fusion, Osteoarthritis, Ulcerative colitis, Chronic Pain, Fibromyalgia, Complex Sleep Apnea, and host of other things to spice up my life!(NOT!) Medications: Oxycontin, Percocet, Baclofen, Sulfasalazine, Metoprolol, Folic Acid, Supplemental O2 at 3lpm with VPAP Adapt SV


edt
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   Posted 6/4/2009 6:35 AM (GMT -7)   

CShelp,

So on top of the CP you are still GRIEVING!  You admired your Dr. friend and mentor, someone you trusted and whose opinion you valued!  In your words, I feel you are saying you felt betrayed by his PA, who you thought would be there for you.  Geez!!

Hang in there, like PA said Therapists are not magicians!  Sounds like your Therapist cares!  Try and stay positive and honest about your feelings, finding a therapist who you can open up to is half the battle.  My daughter is BiPolar and it took years to find the right Therapist!  She was on meds from her Psychiatrist, that helped a bit but the changes after a few months with her Therapist made all the difference in her life and ours!

We are here for you wishing you the best!

XXOO
Patti

 

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Morgoth
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   Posted 6/4/2009 12:43 PM (GMT -7)   
cshelp,

I'll be blunt as usual. The good old days from before the accident are never coming back. The quiet painless evening and the good night sleep are past tense as well. The best you can hope for is that toninght will be more quiet than last evening and that you'll get a bit more sleep than the previous nights. That's reality. The sooner you accept this the easier it will get.

As a nurse you know tbetter than most of us here is no medication, short of doping you up to the point of unconciousness, that will completely take away your pain. There will always be a lingering pain in the background. You'll get accustomed to the meds and will need more ... you know the story. In the end, and I've been there, you're so doped up 24/7 that you're a zombie, almost literally. Your entire body will ache, from the meds mind you, that you long for the old days when it was "just" the pain. You and your husband will break up, you're friends and family will abondon you, etc. Provided of course you don't kill them before they leave (and this happens more often than you think).

Taking that into account, you might understand a doctor's reluctance to prescribe pain meds. I realize all too well that there is no light at the end of the tunnel and there is no relief, not even hope for reinforcements as we say in the military. Yet there is a difference, and I'm not taling symantics here, between incapacitating pain and discomfort. Those doctors, even those who know pain firsthand, will not consider discomfort as "true pain". You say you can still work, thus you are by definition not incapacitated by the pain. It is not that you're literally paralysed by the pain. And although most doctors don't suffer from CP, they do know the effects of too much pain meds.

Every person experiences his or her ain differently. I myself have a high pain tolerance but I'm a succer when it comes down to a toothache. I never had a depression (which surprises my specialist) and thus have really no idea what you go through. I can only tell you that a human being gets used to almost everything, including lasting pain. The only thing I do know about depressions is that it is a bad move for depressed people to stop social interaction. You're not bugging us. We learn from this forum and we draw courage from the sufferings of others (it sounds cruel but it's true, here you realize that there is always someone who's condition is worse than yours).

Keep in touch, please, and keep us posted. If you feel the need to vent, do it here, we all know the feeling and it doesn't bother us; we can all relate.

Take care.
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   Posted 6/4/2009 8:47 PM (GMT -7)   
Cshelp, I am just checking in on you to see how it is going. I know you posted yesterday and you don't see your therapist until next week. You mentioned that you are seeing another PMS on Monday. I hope that you make a connection there and that you will be able to find someone that you can begin a trusting relationship again with in the medical profession. I started a thread recently about how important it is to trust your doctors. There were some great posts that showed it is very important to have that kind of a trust with those who you are opening yourself up to and CP is so up front and personal. I want to encourage you to keep trying until you find a doctor that you can trust. I hope things are still looking better and that glimmer of hope is shining a little brighter. 

cshelp
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   Posted 6/4/2009 9:29 PM (GMT -7)   

Morgoth,

You hit every point on the button. I used to be a lot stronger, pull myself out a bad spot when down, but now I can't. I dont know what to say to this new PM doctor. Yes, there are days which I say, Why did this happen to me, I felt so good before the accident but BAM. You are right, I need to forget the past, why cant the doctors understand me. I am so tired and have no one to talk to each day. This counselor was very nice, but here comes the paranoia. I am afraid he would tell me I cant perform my job as a nurse. I have to pay the bills, and right now that is what keeps me going in a bad way. My legs are like an alarm clock and scream, "It's time to get up, you are not going to stay in this bed!" I sometimes think what would it be like to not have to go to work, but then I get angry, because the way the pain is controlling me, I wouldn't be able to stay home, because the meds arent working. The neurontin and amitriplyine dont help the pain, they just make me groggy, tired, but the pain still only allows a couple hours of sleep, and this fatigue is pulling me in a deeper hole of my mood. Thank you for giving me a sense of reality.

Fatherjohn,

I am scared, maybe I should call the therapist on Monday before my PM appt. I faxed the records from the neurosurgeon's office, but I didnt fax the pysch records when I was sick. Should I have done this. Is is wrong for me to have a doctor judge me by the cover and just answer questions he has or should I lay it all out on the line? I want to trust the MD. I was straight forward with the new PCP and she still referred me to this PM doctor. I am lost. I want to laugh again. I just look forward to my vacation with the girls at the end of June but if I cant get some help, its going to be a long summer. I want to take them to six flags. They have never been there. i will keep you posted.


skeye
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   Posted 6/4/2009 9:45 PM (GMT -7)   
Hi Cshelp,

I'm glad that you were able to see a councilor. Depression itself is a natural "side-effect" of CP, without taking into account other factors in your life. I think that it is important that your councilor/psychologist, etc, is someone who you can talk to easily. The point of talk therapy, obviously, is to talk, and if you don't feel comfortable talking with your councilor, then you should look for a new one. It sounds like you do you like your current one, so try not to worry about what he might say. You'll find that councilors say remarkably little about you, but rather ask pointed questions to guide you & get you talking. They aren't necessarily there to judge you, more-so they are there to guide you. Try to give this guy a chance, if you can. And just remember, just because he may suggest something, doesn't mean that you have to follow that suggestion. Ultimately, it is your life & your decision. So I wouldn't worry about what he might say about your nursing career.

Re: the cymbalta. By saying that cymbalta is a hard drug to get off of, I think that he means that you have to do it very slowly & that it is common to experience withdrawl symptoms (not necessarily the same as the symptoms you get from opioid withdrawl). I remember that I did experience some unpleasant side effects when I came off of Cymbalta, although I was on a very high dosage to begin with.


I hope the counciling helps!
Skeye

fatherjohn
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   Posted 6/4/2009 9:50 PM (GMT -7)   
Cshelp, I know it is tough trying to make the decisions when inside you are questioning everything. I also know that the darkness of depression crouds out the rays of hope. you can't allow yourself to meditate on the questions. It is ok to make the decision not to fax the report unless they specifically asked for it. If they did, you can take it in with you and explain why you made the decsion to hand deliver it. You still have the chioce. I am not sure what the effect would be but we all have things from our past. I can't even begin to explain how I have overcome the darkness of the past. We do not have to be defined by our past but we must rise above it. You need to believe that you can. There will be setbacks and situations that arise but you still need to push past them. We are here to help encourage you. No one needs to go it alone. Keep hanging in there and I will be looking for an update after your Dr. visit. I will keep you in prayer.Blessings! 

LLPLUV
Veteran Member


Date Joined Mar 2009
Total Posts : 1158
   Posted 6/5/2009 4:16 PM (GMT -7)   
I have just read all these posts and now I have tears in my eyes. Wow, trying to live down something that happened 3 yrs ago. That has to be a nightmare.

I wish we could have specialists that kept the feeling of wanting to make a difference in a patients life. I wish we had doctors who cared for us as people. I want the person to treat me that still has the passion for making people feel better!

But reality has twisted that view. With the addiction rates, drug abuse and law suits doctors have become cold and hard.

I am going to think of you when I lay down tonight and hope you will see some light at the end of this long tunnel on Monday. Hopefully this new PM will listen and WANT to help you.

Laurie
39 yr young female with,
Chronic Kidney Stones, PKD (Polycystic Kidney Disease), Chronic Kidney Failure, Severe Hypertension, Urological RSD
Also CHF (Congestive Heart Failure) and Sleep Apnea
Hopefully NO MORE........ I think I have it all


cshelp
Regular Member


Date Joined Mar 2009
Total Posts : 96
   Posted 6/6/2009 11:22 AM (GMT -7)   
Thank you, everyone I am so scared and dont know what to say to him on monday there has to be a glimmer of hope and light at the end of the tunnel
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