Update on Bipolar son....

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uniquelyme
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   Posted 6/6/2009 11:38 AM (GMT -7)   
 
 
cry    As you can tell by the crying face things have hit a downward spiral with my son...The other night we had to call a Crisis Hotline because he was talking suicide.... He had taken the first Wellbutrin that morning...and the last!!!  The hotline sent out a counselor at midnight to our house...Thank God!!  If we had taken him to the ER it would have been so easy for them to say "we are admitting him on a 3 day hold" and I couldn't have done anything about it.  As it worked out, the counselor, her name was Chinez'e....thought it was the new meds and said he should stay home...She was here for over an hour and Tyler was actually glad she came.  Also, the Dr. had changed up his Geodon and put him on Cogentan...that has a lot to do with what happened.
 
I was so freakin scared.,.. Well, scared is mild compared to how I really felt.  I kept thinking " I could really lose my son."  He is my only child, can't have anymore so I really dont want anything to hapen to him.
 
From day 1 on the Geodon things went up up up....then we changed it because of side effects (shaking, dry mouth) and then it went downhill fast.. That was 2 days ago...
 
Things are getting back to normal...I knew something was wrong when he started cussing at me again...something he had stopped after starting the medication...and he was irritable as hell...
 
I will keep u posted...
 
Me.

 I hate Boats!!!!
 
Post Lamenectomy Syndrome, Spinal Stenosis, DDD....
1999 Hemi Lamenectomy/2005 Spinal Fusion(L4-S1)
Methadone 120 mg. a day/15 mg. Oxycodone as needed(up to 4 x a day)
High Blood Pressure: Lisinopril HCTZ 10 mg. daily
Type 2 Diabetes: (March 16, 2009)
Metformin HCL ER 1000 mg. at night..Glipizide 5mg. 2X in the morning
                                                                    

 


bluejet2
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   Posted 6/6/2009 12:15 PM (GMT -7)   
Hi Uniquely Me:
 
I gew up with a Mom who was diagnosed as a Paranoid Schizophrenic around the time I was born, and from a very young age, roles were reversed and I was the caretaker of her and my entire family.  So, even though the Dx's are not exactly the same, a lot of the symptoms are, and I can very much relate to what you are going through with your son. 
 
My mother threatened to commit suicide often, and actually tried to commit suicide a couple of times, and I know how scared it makes you and at the same time it is so physically, mentally, and emotionally draining it is, because you worry every second what they thinking of doing, planning to do, or actually doing. 
 
I'm glad that the crisis counsellor was able to de-escalate the situation, and that things have calmed down.  Please be sure to take the time to take care of yourself so that you are able to help him when he needs you.  Please keep posting as you can, as I'm sure you know, it helps to vent not just about what he's going through, but what you are going through as well.
 
You and your family will be in my thoughts and prayers.
 
Lorie  

uniquelyme
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   Posted 6/6/2009 12:18 PM (GMT -7)   
Bluejet,
Thanks so much...It helps to hear from others that know what I am going through. It scared me to call the Crisis Hotline, I was sure they were going to swoop in and take him away...I couldn't handle that.

I will keep u posted...

Me.
 I hate Boats!!!!
 
Post Lamenectomy Syndrome, Spinal Stenosis, DDD....
1999 Hemi Lamenectomy/2005 Spinal Fusion(L4-S1)
Methadone 120 mg. a day/15 mg. Oxycodone as needed(up to 4 x a day)
High Blood Pressure: Lisinopril HCTZ 10 mg. daily
Type 2 Diabetes: (March 16, 2009)
Metformin HCL ER 1000 mg. at night..Glipizide 5mg. 2X in the morning
                                                                    

 


PAlady
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   Posted 6/6/2009 1:27 PM (GMT -7)   
Me,
I was wondering how you were doing. I am thankful that you called the crisis counselor and that you seem to have a system in your area similar to ours - in that there are people or teams available to go out to homes, in a limited number of cases. The hospital is certainly there and is better than taking a risk of an attempt, but as long as you get an assessment by someone who knows what they're doing re: suicide, that's the main point.

I am biting my tongue here a bit because I'm not here to give medical advice but I sure would ask that doctor why he prescribed Wellbutrin to someone with bipolar. Some doctors (psychiatrists - I'm talking about those who specialize in this, not a family doctor) are very good at combining medications, and some aren't. Wellbutrin can trigger manic episodes. While in some cases it might be tried, it's usually not until other options are exhausted. It's good it happened early and while your son was around for you to observe.

Like a few of us had said earlier, it's tough to get this illness "balanced" because that's what it is, a balancing act with medications, but also some lifestyle changes can help. I think I remember your son was seeing a therapist, but I can't trust my memory anymore. If he's not, seeing someone experienced with bipolar is pretty much a necessity.

Another thing that can be helpful is learning a variety of techniques to help with emotional regulation. There is an approach called Dialectical Behavioral Therapy (DBT) mostly developed by Marsha Linehan, Ph.D., for dealing with Borderline Personality Disorder (BPD). BUT you don't have to have BPD to benefit from it because it is all about teaching thinking and behavioral techniques to help regulate emotions - in conjunction with medication. There may be groups in your area that are running, and you can look for them. Or search for a therapist who's been trained in DBT.

Hope you can relax a bit.....this is an exhausting episode for you, too.

Hugs,

PaLady

skeye
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   Posted 6/7/2009 4:21 PM (GMT -7)   
Hi Me,

I'm so sorry to hear that the situation with your son is getting worse. But I am thankful that you were there & were able to find him some help. Hopefully his docs will be able to sort out the meds situation soon & be able to get him stabilized, although I imagine that it will take some picking & choosing until he finds the right combo. Thanks for keeping us posted! You'll both be in my thoughts & prayers.

Skeye

fatherjohn
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   Posted 6/7/2009 5:07 PM (GMT -7)   
Uniquelyme, I also am so glad that a counselor was available. I wish it did not take so long in trying different medications to find one or a combination that works and works over a time period. Just know that you and your son are being prayed for and as alone as you can feel at times of distress, there are others who care. Wouldn't it be nice to have people around that can step in at times who are as caring as the people on here. Maybe you have some around you but the people on this forum are definitely special. Be blessed and keep us informed as we do wonder how things are going.

uniquelyme
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   Posted 6/7/2009 10:46 PM (GMT -7)   
Thanks everyone...It has been a trying time but things are getting better. Especially since I stopped the Wellbutrin. She had warned us that this might happen..the extreme suicidal thoughts...She prescribed it due to depression along with the Bipolar. He said he was still depressed and that's what she gave him... We will see her tomorrow because on Tuesday he is going to see his dad in Knoxville for 2 weeks. I am scared about letting him go right now, but he hasn't seen him in a year and it might be good for both of them. His father's sister was the one that was murdered a few months ago and I think they need to talk to each other about it. Also, a son needs his dad at this age more then his mother. I am going to talk to his dad and stepmom and let them know what is going on...I htink he'll be in good hands. If not, I will go and get him.

Me.
 I hate Boats!!!!
 
Post Lamenectomy Syndrome, Spinal Stenosis, DDD....
1999 Hemi Lamenectomy/2005 Spinal Fusion(L4-S1)
Methadone 120 mg. a day/15 mg. Oxycodone as needed(up to 4 x a day)
High Blood Pressure: Lisinopril HCTZ 10 mg. daily
Type 2 Diabetes: (March 16, 2009)
Metformin HCL ER 1000 mg. at night..Glipizide 5mg. 2X in the morning
                                                                    

 


LLPLUV
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   Posted 6/8/2009 5:57 AM (GMT -7)   
Me ((((((((((HUGS)))))))))

Now that you have signed up for this roller coaster ride I have to say I'm proud of you!!!! Under stressfull pressure you are trying to make the right choices so far so good. As we all told you in the last thread it will be an up and down cycles from now on. Trail and error, laughter and tears........

I will be thinking of you
Laurie
39 yr young female with,
Chronic Kidney Stones, PKD (Polycystic Kidney Disease), Chronic Kidney Failure, Severe Hypertension, Urological RSD
Also CHF (Congestive Heart Failure) and Sleep Apnea
Hopefully NO MORE........ I think I have it all


edt
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   Posted 6/8/2009 6:34 AM (GMT -7)   

Me,

I am keeping you and your family in my prayers!  Having a daughter who is BiPolar, I can so relate...we did not experience the crisis you have, but the up and downs over the years has been very trying.  Now that she is on the CORRECT medication, her life and ours is so much better!

((((((((((((((((((((((Me))))))))))))))))))

XXOO
Patti


uniquelyme
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   Posted 6/9/2009 1:01 PM (GMT -7)   
 
 
It really helps to have all of you here for me.. I feel kinda selfish saying this, but I feel like my family has forgotten about me in all of this.  I mean, My son definitley needs a great deal of attention right now, but he also uses this to get attention. So, my problems are non existant right now.  I mean, hell...I have to walk on egg shells around him so I don't set him off.  If I even mention that my blood sugar is high or that my back is killing me He throws a freakin fit.  My mom, who we live with, has started jumping my butt about everything... I say the wrong thing all of the time...I do the wrong thing all of the time.  If he gets upset about anything I have said, even if it's just "hello" she tells me to be quiet and think of his feelings.
 
Talk about confusing.....I thought I was his mom....
 
Me.

 I hate Boats!!!!
 
Post Lamenectomy Syndrome, Spinal Stenosis, DDD....
1999 Hemi Lamenectomy/2005 Spinal Fusion(L4-S1)
Methadone 120 mg. a day/15 mg. Oxycodone as needed(up to 4 x a day)
High Blood Pressure: Lisinopril HCTZ 10 mg. daily
Type 2 Diabetes: (March 16, 2009)
Metformin HCL ER 1000 mg. at night..Glipizide 5mg. 2X in the morning
                                                                    

 


fatherjohn
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   Posted 6/9/2009 1:21 PM (GMT -7)   
Me, I am sorry you are caught in this place where you are trying to please everybody but nobody can be pleased. That is a difficult place as you end up in a no win situation. All I can say right now is, take some time off for yourself, even if it is only short times and allow yourself some relazing time. I once had a counselor who must have been addicted to bubble baths as she always told me when I was struggling to go take a bubble bath. Just give yourself a break.
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