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tmjpain
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   Posted 8/1/2009 7:28 AM (GMT -7)   
Google and read.
 
Have any of you had this done. What do you think of it. I have had two sessions and am finding out there are underlying issues from when i was a child that could be affecting me. My husband is going to learn and i will too so I can do it myself. Not hard really. Last night my husband worked on my sleepless nights that I have been having for a while and I had a better night. Was getting back to sleep after getting up to get ice for my headaches. I am trying anything. We've made some changes to my meds and we will work on clearing some of the "baggage" I am carrying. Then I will do the natural pain relief program again. I am having blocks with it working due to the baggage and still being on script meds esp. the MEslon and Oxycodone (prn).
 
I would appreciate any input esp. if you have experienced EFT.
 
Suzane

edt
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   Posted 8/1/2009 9:54 AM (GMT -7)   

Hi TMJ,

I have done EFT and alot of other emotional healing techniques!  I worked in the Alternative Medical Field and have done many different modalities.  In my opinion, everything does a little something, shifts the energy and if nothing else releases some of the hidden emotions and denials that happen in our lives!

If you feel better or emotionally notice an improvement then its probably working for you!

What works for one may not work for someone else!  You can sign up on Gary Craigs site to receive his newsletters and do this technique yourself!

Hope you find relief!

Patti


PAlady
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   Posted 8/1/2009 12:04 PM (GMT -7)   
TMJ,
I've been trained in something similar - TFT (Thought Field Therapy). As Patti says, these approaches are fine ad adjuncts in most cases but a couple of things I would suggest checking on would be is the therapist also a trained, licensed therapist in some major field (psychology, social work, counseling) or is this just someone who has taken some training in EFT. That's important IMHO because sometimes material can be brought up and EFT is only one of the approaches that's needed. A skilled, licensed therapist will know how to deal with difficult life issues (such as past abuse) that may arise. Someone only trained in EFT or hypnotherapy or anything alone may not. Same thing with EMDR and several other of what are called the "alphabet therapies".

Second, I would make sure you're not getting taken to the cleaners financially. If it's the same reasonable amount a therapit would charge, that's fine, but some people will try to charge hundreds of dollars for one session. That should be a red flag.

If done by a licensed therapist, these techniques are usually integrated with overall therapy and probably will be covered by insurance.

It's also ok if you're seeing a "regular" therapist and someone else for EFT, so that way they can coordinate. And if something too painful or scary comes up, you have a regular therapist to fall back on.

That being said, if you're getting some relief it generally can't do any harm (unless someone bleeds you financiall!). My belief is that mind and body are not separate, but are always having "conversations" with eachother via various body systems. It's no accident, for example, that data on second heart attacks show most were preceded by an anger outbursts. Emotions have physical components.

I'd do what Patti suggests and sign up and learn about various techniques, but also trust yourself. If something sounds too good to be true, it likely is. :-)

PaLady

LLPLUV
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   Posted 8/1/2009 12:16 PM (GMT -7)   
I also need to look into something like this. I love alternative medicine. I will always do the conventional route but using the best of alternative therapies can't hurt. I believe in mind, body and soul. It all works together in unison. I believe in positive visualation if I didn't I would go insane!!!!

Laurie

now if someone would explain EFT I would be thrilled
Kidney Diseases and Disorders
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39 yr young female with,
Chronic Kidney Stones, PKD (Polycystic Kidney Disease), Chronic Kidney Failure, Severe Hypertension, Urological RSD

Also CHF (Congestive Heart Failure) and Sleep Apnea

Hopefully NO MORE........ I think I have it all


PAlady
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   Posted 8/1/2009 12:37 PM (GMT -7)   
Laurie,
I'll let Patti speak to EFT (Emotional Freedom Technique), but from all I've learned as a professional who has been interested and even trained in some of these therapies (although not EFT specificially), many are based on the concept of not just mind and body, but that things like thoughts are really energy and if you break up that energy where it's stuck or blocked or being held in the body, you will release the other layers - emotional and physical.

If you look into the history of Traditional Chinese Medicine, you will see that it incorporated mind, body and spirit (or energy, sometimes called "chi" or "ki" as in Tai CHI or ReiKI...there are others). That the techniques did not separate one from the other. Traditional acupuncture, which is based on a theory of energy "meridians" running through the body that roughly correlate to the central nervous system (that's the easiest way to describe it and the way western science tends to evaluate it) so that when you do acupuncture, for example, you're moving the energy of a specific meridian which will also release emotional and physical symptoms. Traditional Chinese approaches, and traditional Eastern approaches overall, never separated mind, body and spirit initially. That started with political revolutions in China, and of course, we in the west have tended to pull things apart, so that if you take a yoga class, you often get taught only stretches and movement if it's not a teacher that trained traditionally.

A traditionally trained yoga instructor knows that the positions (called "asanas") are not just designed to stretch body parts, but also to release specific emotional issues, and unite body, mind and spirit. The concept is similar in many other approaches coming from the east. When they get to the west, we tend to separate out and use the one aspect - usually physical - and divorce it from the rest. Even basic relaxation exercises, which are derived from spiritual forms of meditation, do this. So methods like EFT and others are an attempt to reintegrate body and mind (at least), if not body, mind and spirit (or energy).

Have I confused you thoroughly now? LOL

I'll be interested in Patti's take on this.

PaLady

LLPLUV
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   Posted 8/1/2009 12:50 PM (GMT -7)   
Wow now Im really interested...
 
Did you know in Chinese medicine that if they don't cure you they don't get paid.
 
Hmmm what a wonderful concept..
 
Laurie
Kidney Diseases and Disorders
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39 yr young female with,
Chronic Kidney Stones, PKD (Polycystic Kidney Disease), Chronic Kidney Failure, Severe Hypertension, Urological RSD

Also CHF (Congestive Heart Failure) and Sleep Apnea

Hopefully NO MORE........ I think I have it all


tmjpain
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   Posted 8/1/2009 1:01 PM (GMT -7)   
Thank you all.
 
Laurie you can google EFT and the site is excellent to read!
 
Suzane

edt
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   Posted 8/1/2009 2:17 PM (GMT -7)   

PALady,

Everything you said is correct, very good explanation!!!  EFT is basically using a tapping techique vs. accupuncture needles on specific meridians.  The theory is every incident good or bad is a stored memory somewhere in our body.  An example that was given to me years ago that may help you understand is:

You experienced a broken arm way way back with that injury you experienced an emotional memory as well.  Your physical injury has healed, you move forward BUT the emotional memory is still stored in the body, tissues, muscles, organs etc (unknown to you).....as you go along in life you'll experience another episode that may have the same emotional memory as the one you experienced when you broke your arm.....(does not have to be from another physical injury)  soooo when you do any type of body/mind work, you start to release emotional and physical memories....sort of like a domino effect the broken arm memory may be the same as a memory you experienced when you lost your favorite doll (grief) etc etc.   Once you start the release techniques it may stir memories you never realized you held onto.  Sometimes you remember sometimes you don't but most times you feel lighter, more energetic or calm.  Not sure if this is confusing or helping.

Homeopathy also works like this, they say if you are given the right remedy it is like turning back the clock, sometimes you relive symptoms from top to bottom, inside to outside, by organ of importance and so on.  Sometimes you cry for no known reason or you may have a dream or a fleeting memory.  It is said that once that occurs the problem usually has left.  I had the opportunity to see this happen time an time again when I worked.  I've also had the experience myself.  I had Rolfing done a long time ago and during a few sessions (if you know what Rolfing is its pretty intense body release) I would suddenly start sobbing or laughing. I felt like a real wacko but was assured this was emotional stuff being released that was stored in the muscles for who knows how long!  Made sense and boy after 12 sessions, I was like a new person for many many years!  I was so fortunate while working because of my job I was given Professional courtesy!  Either very small fees and alot were free to me!  I was very lucky now most are unaffordable!!

I do the meds I need to for my situation, but I do many other modalities in an effort to detox my body as well.  I feel it is working if I don't have to increase the pain med dose or strength.  There are lots of things and people out there that are hocus but just as many that are truly helpful!

Like PA says if its too good to be true.....be wary.  Every practitioner I have been to has NEVER promised complete relief, if someone does that.....dig deeper.  I have found many supplements, remedies and treatments that have helped enough to make the pain more tolerable.  I still hold out hope for the day when there will be an answer for all of us tongue till then more tolerable is good enough for me!

Hope what I said makes sense!

XXOO
Patti


PAlady
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   Posted 8/1/2009 2:36 PM (GMT -7)   
Yep, Patti, it did to me!

EFT sounds pretty much like TFT. Fact is, they really all come from traditional chinese medicine and the emotional connection to the meridian system. But some people have develope their own version and then give it a new title and try to get everyone trained in something new (of course, at a price). I've learned after paying a lot of money for training that much of it is so similar, and since there's no hard science showing one technique is useful over others (a few studies have been attempted but the methodology is questionable) I think a lot has to do with the practitioner. And if someone is telling you how much better their method is over someone else's - and this is why you should pay $$$$$$ - turn around and walk away! There are other ethical practitioners out there and they will charge reasonable fees, especially for you to try something.

PaLady

edt
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   Posted 8/2/2009 7:19 AM (GMT -7)   

Well said PALady!!

XXOO

Patti

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