What to do about meds in cases of attack??!

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josey
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   Posted 8/3/2009 4:12 AM (GMT -7)   
I'm sure some of you have wondered this before
I live in Canada, but this could be for anyone, if we ever got attacked and since we now know that as long we ur not hit by the original explosion directly, we can survive the fallout of evan the largest nuclear weapon ,( if u want more info of that just ask me)

So if we have to spend up to 2 months in our basements etc... What would I do about my pain medication, I could live with the pain of not being on them, it wouldn't kill me, but if I had say evan a month of my pain meds and I'm on 20mgs 2X a day of slow release oxycontin what would I do?? I couldn't just stop right? Is any kind of tapering down, evan 1 a day better than stopping?
And don't evan get me started on my asthma meds

Some of u may think this is a strange post, but it's been on my mind for a while and I just watched this documenary so I figured I'd ask-

U may say, well they'd have provisions for that, but if we have to stay in a room, basement, fallout shelter etc and not leave,their not going to check every apartment,
What to do????

Just stop the meds??

infinite
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   Posted 8/3/2009 8:40 AM (GMT -7)   
While it may seem like a strange post, I wouldn't want you to feel it wasn't important because I understand how in these times this has to be of a concern.  I would hate to think of what may go on in my mind much less my body if I were to go 2 months without these meds.  I do know htat it is advised to not just stop most meds. I was "ramped up" to the level of Lyrica I am at, and I am sure I would ned to back off at the same rate.  I know the same is true for the wellbutrin.  I don't know about the Robinul, but I think I am taking it for bogus reasons anyway. 
 
I have often wondered since this all began for me, if something tragic or life-threatening happened, would the adreneline kick in or would I be unable to protect/defend myself. 
 
I think it is a valid question and am interested to hear what others that have suffered much longer than I have to say about this topic.
 
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uniquelyme
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   Posted 8/3/2009 8:53 AM (GMT -7)   
 
I don't know about an "attack", I have never really worried about that...but I do think about natural disasters....if your belongings are destroyed in a fire or something....then what?  I know that if you go to a Methadone clinic they have contingincy plans...but what about our Dr. offices....what will they do?
 
It's definitley something to think about.....
 
Me.

I have been a spectator for so long..Now it's time to participate.......
 
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1999 Hemi Lamenectomy/2005 Spinal Fusion(L4-S1)
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Mrs. Dani
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   Posted 8/3/2009 10:24 AM (GMT -7)   
 
 
Hey Josey!
 
   Good to see you *huggs* I do not want to sound grumpy about this subject but here goes. ...
 
     I really appreciate the help from my doctor. But I know the sad fact that I was literally slowly deteriorating when I finally recieved help. *sigh* So it would be a bit faster rate of deteriorating and painful... and I would probably go back to no sleep and the extreme "fog" that is a blessing and a curse during all those years ... Not much differant from the way things are right now... just less inflammation control.  More progression. I have been still slowly declining reguardless.. but! Alas less inflammation and slightly lowered rate of damage would be missed.
 
     *huggs*
        dani
    
   p.s. Looks like we would have to go topside and steal the neighbors hot tub! devil
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shannon1
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   Posted 8/3/2009 12:35 PM (GMT -7)   
Like Uniquelyme, i think more along the lines of natural disaster.  I lived through Hurricane Andrew in 1992. EVERYTHING was devestated. While i was not on pain meds, i was on other meds back then. Entire doctors offices were destroyed. Patient medical records gone, and in some cases, entire offices litterally gone. For those w/o meds, there was no choice other than to stop meds until things settled down. For me, it ment until i could track down my doctor (which ment standing outside the office for 3 days) in  95 degree heat. I am thankful that my doctor was able to send his patients to another doctor an hr away (north) as even further south was even more devestated.  Thankfully an even like a hurricane or tornado's only affect small (if u want to call it that) areas, and u could likely find treatment outside that area. To this day, 17 years later, some homes/bussineses did not recover.

Jan. 2009, complete hysterectomy, diagnosed stage 4 endometriosis & adenomyosis (age 36)
2003, dx moderate UC
2000, dx selective IGA deficiency w/ anti IGA antibodies
2000, dx Antipholipid Antibody Syndrome
1999-2009, chronic hemmoragic ovarian cysts, w/ partial ovary removal
1977, complete reconstruction of foot after lawnmower accident (chronic pain)
 
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Hello~Kitty
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   Posted 8/3/2009 1:27 PM (GMT -7)   
I have often wondered this also, it's a good thing to wonder about. I know that if their was a huge disater, the pharmacies will probably be the first thing to get raided by drug addicts so I have a feeling most of us will have to go wihout meds no matter what. We will have no choice but to make what we have last, but it wouldnt take that long before we're out and suffering through pain and withdrawals form the pain meds, people who take meds for life and death reasons will probably not make it that long. So no matter what, this will be a hard question to answer, I think if you live in an area known for disaters like tornados and floods, we should talk to our doctor about what they will do, maybe we should all get copies of our medical records incase we have to go out of town and see another doctor til we can go back to our normal doctor, I really think that most doctors will have sympothy if we tell them about what happened. But if it's a end of world type thing, like a super volcano or astroid or something crazy like that, who ever lives through it will have to go out without meds more then likely.

-carmen

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PAlady
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   Posted 8/3/2009 9:29 PM (GMT -7)   
Like others, I think the likelihood of natural disasters is much higher - as Hurricane Andrew and Katrina illustrate. Other areas of the world have had major earthquakes devastating entire areas. I know that we tend to be instructed to keep the appropriate supplies on hand, even for long power outtages (I had one for 5 days years ago due to an ice storm, and that was challenging enough as it was during winter!), and those supplies tend to include extra medications. I'd like to see us to go our pain doctors to ask for that!

I guess I just think the likelihood is smaller, and if something like that strikes I'll be more concerned with basic survival than anything. Plus if it's a limited area, places like the Red Cross and doctors who cover disasters will try to set up as soon as they can - although we know from things like Katrina that can take awhile. Still, once they do they usually have at least some life -sustaining meds. Pain meds we may have to do without, but hey, if I survive that kind of a thing that's all I'll be concerned about. I think lots of people will be in pain, even those who don't have chronic pain. Overall, it's not something I'm going to spend a lot of time thinking about. One day at a time is all I can handle!

PaLady

Joie1
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   Posted 8/3/2009 11:42 PM (GMT -7)   
Sorry...but I'm laughing at something someone said about pharmacies being raided by addicts. I'd TOTALLY love to see these folks taking Pentasa. They'd be on the can all day. It'd be a great since of justice.
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Scarred_for_life
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   Posted 8/4/2009 2:19 PM (GMT -7)   
You know I actually asked my Doctor this question. What if a tornado (and god knows here in KS they are pretty forefront on everyone who is in pain's mind) should rip my house apart or if by some stupid chance someone broke into my home and took my meds.

Well, first off let me say that my pain meds are locked in a gun safe, so if anyone can take the dang thing out of my house without any of my neighbors seeing them good LUCK! But.....IF this would happen as long as you have a police report the doctor would fill script early.

Now....on the other hand...I've always worried about a tornado ever since I moved to KS and in this case I know (seeing as how my doctor is 1 1/2 away) would hear clearly that my town was hit by a tornado. In this case I would have to file a claim with my ins. and then get refilled once more.

THIS is the only thing that will allow me to refill early.

Anyway....I'm probably babbling here. Hugs and TC

Scarred
What doesn't kill us only makes us fight back harder! :P


LLPLUV
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   Posted 8/4/2009 4:06 PM (GMT -7)   
I brought this post up to my husband and the first thing he said was "To heck with the drug addicts he would be at walgreens in a second!"  (hes kinda scary looking he could scare drug addicts smhair )  Not as a drug addict but for me.  I would not even let him consider this if its a natural disaster.  But if god forbid we were attack by a virus, nuked or hit by an asteriod.  Yes my mind goes to virus I love my zombie movies yeah    But in all seriousness If something happened that would impair society for more then a year I would let my hubby do what he needs too.
 
If that means fighting for my pain meds, heart meds, kidney meds and antidepressants then so be it.  My pain is a kinda pain that would have me on the floor screaming none stop.
 
But I would share with you all.........  I'm only saying it would have to be something made of novels for my to do this.  Then I would travel the country to find all of you with my stash of millions.. turn
 
But on a note more close to reality.  I would walk out of a disaster area for my heart meds.....  No joke I love my kids and husband too much to leave them.  I would crawl over hot coals to be able to hold my husband at night.
 
Laurie
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39 yr young female with,
Chronic Kidney Stones, PKD (Polycystic Kidney Disease), Chronic Kidney Failure, Severe Hypertension, Urological RSD

Also CHF (Congestive Heart Failure) and Sleep Apnea

Hopefully NO MORE........ I think I have it all


PAlady
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   Posted 8/4/2009 4:22 PM (GMT -7)   
Laurie & Scarred,
Maybe we could appeal to the vampires to save us? They are, afterall, making tons of money from us via tv, movies and book! smhair

I think they owe us a favor or two! smilewinkgrin smilewinkgrin smilewinkgrin

PaLady

LLPLUV
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   Posted 8/4/2009 4:24 PM (GMT -7)   
PAlady your post reminds me I have the season 1 collection of True Blood.  When I'm done if you want I can ship it to you
 
Laurie
Kidney Diseases and Disorders
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39 yr young female with,
Chronic Kidney Stones, PKD (Polycystic Kidney Disease), Chronic Kidney Failure, Severe Hypertension, Urological RSD

Also CHF (Congestive Heart Failure) and Sleep Apnea

Hopefully NO MORE........ I think I have it all


PAlady
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   Posted 8/4/2009 4:27 PM (GMT -7)   
Laurie!!! devil devil devil

I am your new BFF!!!! yeah yeah yeah

(Sorry to others for the slight weave off course here!)

Definitely would love to see them all!

Take your time. Savor them....although don't drink any red juice! smhair

Then let me know!

Hugs!

PaLady

LLPLUV
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   Posted 8/4/2009 4:30 PM (GMT -7)   
Cool beans its a plan when I am done I will ship them to you  in a week or so.....
 
Laurie
 
Sry for the detour on the post
Kidney Diseases and Disorders
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39 yr young female with,
Chronic Kidney Stones, PKD (Polycystic Kidney Disease), Chronic Kidney Failure, Severe Hypertension, Urological RSD

Also CHF (Congestive Heart Failure) and Sleep Apnea

Hopefully NO MORE........ I think I have it all


Scarred_for_life
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   Posted 8/4/2009 8:15 PM (GMT -7)   
Good plan PA!!!!! I'll get Mick on the phone (for those of you who don't know he is the lead character on Moonlight) and you handle True Blood! ha ha ha ha


Hugs hubby hope you sleep well tonight.

Me I'm off to bed...new meds are kicking in and I am wayyyyyyy sleepy
What doesn't kill us only makes us fight back harder! :P

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