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Pete trips again!
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   Posted 8/6/2009 11:49 PM (GMT -7)   
Hello all my dear friends!
It's 1:55am eastern time and I'm up w/ horable neck & back pain. I woke up and rememberd it was chat night but I guess it's too late as when I checked in>> no one was there but me!
I got back home to my wife and pets around 8:00pm tonight or I guess it's last night now after being down at our other house for 3 days of fun> NOT!
The worst part of my really long trip was on my way home at around 6:30 with about a half hour left of driving, a really bad accident happened right in front of me! I saw what looked like a tornado of stuff flying around a pickup truck which was rolling over from the other side of the road across a large grass medion into the two lanes about 50 yards infront of me. The back of the truck must have been full of stuff as it was flying everywhere as the truck rolled it's way twards me. It was then I saw the driver flying through the air who was thrown from the truck! He landed and tumbled in the road right in front of me so I quickly pulled over and got out and actually ran over to him. (I can't remember the last time I ran!!!) I woun't go into all the grusome details of what he looked like but he was in really bad shape and bleeding everywhere! He was breath fast but very labored as I think his ribs / chest were smashed and broken. As I leaned over, I saw another guy running over from the otherside of the road and I yelled "CALL 911!!!" as I left my phone in the car. Just then the guy started to move and rolled over, I put my hands on his shoulders to try to stop him from moving and told him he would be alright and help was coming! By then, the other guy had reached us and said he called 911 and they were on there way. He helped me restrain the guy who was still fighting to move and get up although he was out of it and couldn't hear us talking to him. More and more people stopped as both sides of the road were covered with his stuff, truck parts and his truck lying on it's side. People were asking me questions like if I knew the guy but I had no answers except I was the first one there and saw the truck rolling and him flying through the air! Finally after restraining the poor guy which seemed like an eternity, two guys ran up and said they were off duty parrametics and took over from me and the other guy who was helping me. I stayed for a while watching the guy waiting for more help but my arms and hands were covered with blood and I couldn't stand the feeling of it so I got some napkins I had in my car and tryed to clean myself but it didn't work very well. I desided there was nothing else I could do and by this time there were about 100 people stopped there so I got in my car which was ahead of all the other westbound traffic stopped in the road and headed fot a gas station down the road about a mile. The girl at the counter asked me what happened to me and was I alright as I quickly went into the restroom. I told her what happened and said I'd be back in a minute to tell her more. Just then I saw an ambulance & two state troopers fly by. We were about 10 miles from the closest town which I was headed for. As I drove, fire engines, more cops and wreckers drove by. I was shaking and feeling sick to my stomac, thinking about what had just happened and wondering if the guy was alright. Then I saw the tramma hellicoptor fly over and there was nothing to do but continue to drive (slowly!) twards home and say a prayer for the guy. I started feeling guilty about leaving him there even though there was nothing I could do to help him. Once long ago while running a wrecker in Austin Tex, I saw a girl die lying in the road after a bad accident and I just didn't want to see this guy die too! I guess I'm a coward like that.
Well sorry to drop this bomb on Y'all in the middle of the night but I'm up, sore and just can't stop wondering if this guy lived or not??? I'm going to try to go back to sleep now. I'll write tomorrow or later this am and let Y'all know how I made out w/ my 4 Dr. apts yesterday and other pains!!!  
Thanks for listening! I just had to unload.
Hugs to all> Sleep well!
Pete  


56 years old, Surgury, Radical Prostatectomy 8/20/03, PSA 6.6, Gleason 3 + 3 = 6, Adenocarcinoma extent (moderate) Stage & Margin:T2NOMX, No Metastases, Organ Confined, bone scan: Neg. 3 1/2 years of depression after surgery prior to Hypogonadizm DX, Testosterone Theropy> new 2/6/09> 400mg injections once a month. 56 and so glad to still be here to see my two sons grow up to be fine young men. They are both serving in the US Navy, Joseph is on the aircraft carrier USS John Stennis back in Bremerton, Wa. after 8 mo. deployment! and Pete Jr. is on The Asault Ship USS Bataan "The Jaws of the Fleet" somewhere in the Persian Gulf w/ 2,000 Marines aboard. I am one very proud (what they call me)> Big Pops! 


PAlady
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   Posted 8/7/2009 12:20 AM (GMT -7)   
Oh, Pete!
Wow - what a trauma for all of you! It is traumatic to witness and be a part of something like that, so I hope you give yourself a chance to decompress a bit. I'm glad you wrote us here, although I'm not so sure I should have read it at 3am! But that's ok - I'm waiting for my pain meds to kick in.

Pete, please try not to feel guilty (you know us Italians feel guilty about nearly everything).
You stopped and helped this man - really hands on help - that a lot of people would have avoided. You could have kept driving or just stood by. Give yourself LOTS of credit for helping try to save this man's life. If he made it, it's because of you and the others who helped, but you were first to him! And it's usually better to get out of the way once there are professionals on the scene. The 2 off duty paramedics were capable of doing more - as much as they could without any equipment. If it's bothering you to know what happened, I'm sure there will be a news report on one of the websites of a newspaper nearby. But you HELPED, no matter what the outcome. You didn't cause the accident!

I'm glad you're back with your wife, and hope you can relax with her. Take it easy awhile Pete. You've been through so, so much lately.

I'll be looking for your update about your doctor appointments but don't worry about having to do it right away - you need a break.

Hugs,

PaLady
p.s. Put on some of your favor jazz.

golitho
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   Posted 8/7/2009 1:37 AM (GMT -7)   
Pete, how scary to witness something like that. It sounded as if you did the right thing by trying to restrain him and getting someone to call for help. Once the paramedics were there what more could you do? Even though you witnessed the end you couldn't have thrown more light on the cause for the cops either.
It's been a bit of a crazy week, maybe its the full moon! One of my close students who suffers from MS had her house burn down Wed night and that same night another friend lost her Mom. She was found dead by her sister and she was only 65! No known cause yet, we're assuming a heart attack. So it's been a fairly roller coaster week of emotions.
I hope you took PAlady's advice and relaxed with some music to just chill out. Shakes you up seeing trauma up close like that. Hope you're feeling ok now, golitho

bsjaguar
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   Posted 8/7/2009 3:04 AM (GMT -7)   
Dang, Pete, talk about the right place at the right time, or maybe the wrong place. I'm sure your heart was racing a mile a minute. about the blood all over your hands. I'd mention this to your doctor. He/she may want to run tests for HIV or Hepititis. My husband has hep C so I carry latex gloves in both of out vehicles and keep them in my home in case he bleeds and needs assistance. You never know who has a blood born disease! Good Luck at the doctors today.
---Jag---
 
DDD, osteoarthritis, fusion surgeries C-5/7 & L-4/5 both in 2006, torn meniscus left knee 2000 & 2002, buldging disc C-2/3


Chartreux
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   Posted 8/7/2009 8:08 AM (GMT -7)   
Pete,
Sorry you had to witness and go thru all that...it's never easy...
sorry I wish I could off more advise right now, .
soft hugz to you...
((((((((((((((((((((((((((Pete)))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))
sorry about my attitude, you just try to take it easy...
Very sorry that was selfish of me and my heart and prayers and thoughts go out to the victims involved in this accident..
I sure Hope you can get throught this Pete and lots of
caring hugz being sent to you...
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Post Edited (Chartreux) : 8/7/2009 12:26:45 PM (GMT-6)


Mrs. Dani
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   Posted 8/7/2009 8:32 AM (GMT -7)   
 
 
 
Holy S**T Pete!!!
 
    That is crazy! I am so glad you guys had the strength and heart to hold him down. So hard hwen they don't understand how hurt they are. Bless his heart! I am so glad you were there. Had it been anyone but you.. Well, it wasnt. It was you. You were there, Thank goodness.
 
    I remember it!!! You said something about trying to relax and get rest..... Maybe you shouldnt say that outloud next time? smhair
 
     Now go get some rest darnit!
 
   *huggs*
       dani
TWO roads diverged in a yellow wood,  
And sorry I could not travel both  
And be one traveler, long I stood


White Beard
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   Posted 8/7/2009 9:01 AM (GMT -7)   
Hi Pete
It was a good thing you were there to help that guy! It is  traumatic to witness and become apart of such an event. Have you thought about calling the state police or authorities and telling them that you were there and what you witnessed and helped with that one person? It might be a good idea to do so.  As any little bits and pieces of the crash that they can get will help them put it all together, so they can figure out just what exactly happened. Also bsjaguar made a outstanding point, if you did not have rubber gloves on and if you had any type of scratch on your hands at all  you could possible be infected with who knows what? That might be another reason to find out and let them ( authorities)know you were at the seen  and helped that guy. ( let them know that you were exposed to that individuals blood) That way if he had something you can find out who he was and what he had so you can get the proper treatment right away away! ( You really never know about this type of thing, so the sooner you take action the better!) and what if he didn't make it?  then  what? This is pretty important,  no it is really very important! You really don't know what type of blood born pathogen you have been exposed to, if any. And if you even had the slightest scratch on your hand or arm, maybe one you didn't even know about!  Well????? 
 
Chart I hope you guys are over your arguement and everything is now OK. Your post hit home and I am concerned, for you guys, what  you said is sure not something to be taken lightly! I pray that things have been  worked have worked out by now and you are feeling better!
 
 You do know,  I wish you all the best!
 
White Beard


Moderator Chronic Pain
 
I'm Retired USAF, went back to school and became an RN, and now am on full disalbility!--Degenerative Disc (affecting mostly the thorasic disc but all levels involved), C6/7 laminectomy/diskectomy& fusion, Osteoarthritis, Ulcerative colitis, Chronic Pain, Fibromyalgia, Complex Sleep Apnea, and host of other things to spice up my life!(NOT!) Medications: Oxycontin, Percocet, Baclofen, Sulfasalazine, Metoprolol, Folic Acid, Supplemental O2 at 3lpm with VPAP Adapt SV

Post Edited (White Beard) : 8/7/2009 10:08:30 AM (GMT-6)


Chartreux
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   Posted 8/7/2009 11:28 AM (GMT -7)   
Thank You WhiteBeard...
it was selfish of me to post that on Pete's thread and I hope you'll forgive me Pete, TY
Soft hugz to you Pete, and I ment lots of soft hugz..
((((((((((((((((((((((((((Pete)))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))
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Pete trips again!
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Date Joined Nov 2006
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   Posted 8/7/2009 12:18 PM (GMT -7)   
Chart, did I miss something? I don't see anything selfish or wrong?? I'm not sure what you are talking about??
W.B. what arguement? Am I having an arguement I don't know about? I'm lost here!
Anyway, Thanks all of Y'all for your posts of suppot! That really got to me yesterday more than I thought! It's been a while since I'd seen anything like that. The people who work with the injured are really special and my hat goes off to them.
WB, I called the Sheriff's office and gave them a statement on what I saw. I also explained about the blood and they told me they couldn't give me any info now but that they would call back! I'm not all that worried as I checked my fingers, hands and arms really good and couldn't find any scratches or cuts which is so unusual for me, I'm generally covered w/ them! just lucky I guess! If they tell me he had something, I'll definitly do whatever I have to just to make sure, like you said, you never know!
PA, I didn't even unload my car untill after 2pm!! I feel like I got hit by that truck today! I'm going to just chill like you said even though I have so much to do! I'm taking a sick day! Thanks for you post, as always it meant alot to me!
Golitho, thanks for posting> I'm sorry you are having a crazy week too but I didn't know this guy. It's much worse when something happens to friends or someone you know! Hang in there, it will get better! Hugz!!
Dani, thanks and you are right> darnit! I'm just going to do nuttinhoney today!!! maybe I'll eat some too, I love that stuff!
Chart, again I hope everything is alright! I still don't know what you and WB were talking about! I'll maybe check the other posts and see if I missed something there if I get some time.
Love All Y'all, Thanks again for your support!
Pete
PS> watch for my post on the doctors & SSD!!! Coming soon!
56 years old, Surgury, Radical Prostatectomy 8/20/03, PSA 6.6, Gleason 3 + 3 = 6, Adenocarcinoma extent (moderate) Stage & Margin:T2NOMX, No Metastases, Organ Confined, bone scan: Neg. 3 1/2 years of depression after surgery prior to Hypogonadizm DX, Testosterone Theropy> new 2/6/09> 400mg injections once a month. 56 and so glad to still be here to see my two sons grow up to be fine young men. They are both serving in the US Navy, Joseph is on the aircraft carrier USS John Stennis back in Bremerton, Wa. after 8 mo. deployment! and Pete Jr. is on The Asault Ship USS Bataan "The Jaws of the Fleet" somewhere in the Persian Gulf w/ 2,000 Marines aboard. I am one very proud (what they call me)> Big Pops! 


uniquelyme
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   Posted 8/7/2009 12:36 PM (GMT -7)   
 
 
Pete,
A long long time ago me and a friend were driving really late on a little curvy back road when the truck in front of us went flying off the road and into a tree...the truck was about 8 feet up the tree and lodged in it...about a minute later, before we had time to even get out of my car it went up in flames...the guy was trapped in it, I'm sure he was already dead because he didn't make a sound...He burned up right in front of my eyes....talk about traumatic!!  I couldn't bring myself to talk about it for years... It turns out that the guy was drunke beyond belief...he had a bed full of liquor bottles and beer cans...so he didn't feel a thing.
 
So, I can understand the way you felt, helpless...but You couldn't have done anymore then you did.. I hope he is ok...
 
Hope you're doing better today...I think you have a great spirit Pete...and I don't think I am the only one who thinks so.
 
Me.

I have been a spectator for so long..Now it's time to participate.......
 
Post Lamenectomy Syndrome, Spinal Stenosis, DDD....
1999 Hemi Lamenectomy/2005 Spinal Fusion(L4-S1)
Methadone 120 mg. a day/  30 mg. Oxycodone as needed(up to 4 x a day)
High Blood Pressure: Lisinopril HCTZ 10 mg. daily
Type 2 Diabetes: (March 16, 2009)
Metformin HCL ER 1000 mg. at night..Glipizide 10mg. 2X in the morning
Lantus 35 units at bedtime with Solostar Pen                                                                   

 


PAlady
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   Posted 8/7/2009 3:27 PM (GMT -7)   
Pete,
I thought I was crazy, too, but at least I'm not alone! I have no clue what WB and Chartreux are talking about, but then I can be clueless at times, especially these days! If you figure out the puzzle, let me know what it looks like! LOL

And you were hit by a truck, emotionally speaking, so you need time off - for oh, so many reasons!

Will await with baited breath those adventures of Pete and the SSD doctors!

Hugs,

PaLady

skeye
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   Posted 8/7/2009 6:37 PM (GMT -7)   
Hi Pete,

Wow! How horrific! I'm so sorry that you had to experience that! I can't even imagine how emotionally traumatic that must have been! I think I would be in tears, to say the least. I hope the poor guy made it... Did this happen on that super highway of death or yours? He was lucky that you were right there to help! I'm glad that you made it home safely!! I hope you are doing better today, both emotionally & physically! We missed you! ((((((((Pete)))))))))

hugs,
Skeye

Pete trips again!
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Date Joined Nov 2006
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   Posted 8/7/2009 10:08 PM (GMT -7)   
Me>> thats awfull, I can see why you were to upset to talk about it! That was much worse than what I went through! At least I felt like I was helping the guy but there was nothing at all you could do!!! How horrable that must have been for you! I think it's you who has the spirit and a very brave, compassionet spirit. Your support has touched me as usuall!!
PA, Still don't get it but at least I'm not alone this time!!! THANKS for all your support, what would we do w/o you PA? Hey, as long as it's you and me together in the pit of ignorance, You got anything to eat? I'm hungry!!!
Skeye, Hey little Sis, it seems like ages since we've talked! I was gone then you were gone then I was gone>>> Geeze!! No, it wasn't on I-95 (death Hwy), it was on Hwy CR#41 heading west from I-75 twards Inverness Fla. A uncrouded 4 lane road w/ a 60mph speed limit! I had just got off the Fla. Turnpike where right where it meets I75 and had been running 80~85 for hours in a 70mph zone along w/ the rest of the traffic on the FLTP. People drive fast here in Fla!!! The guy in the pickup was surely going much faster than 60mph when he flipped!!! If I hadn't been there, the next guy would havwe done the same as I did. I was much better emotionally today but physically in the pooper! Thanks for asking, I missed you too!!!
Big Hugz to you too my traveling friend!
much love!!!
Pete
56 years old, Surgury, Radical Prostatectomy 8/20/03, PSA 6.6, Gleason 3 + 3 = 6, Adenocarcinoma extent (moderate) Stage & Margin:T2NOMX, No Metastases, Organ Confined, bone scan: Neg. 3 1/2 years of depression after surgery prior to Hypogonadizm DX, Testosterone Theropy> new 2/6/09> 400mg injections once a month. 56 and so glad to still be here to see my two sons grow up to be fine young men. They are both serving in the US Navy, Joseph is on the aircraft carrier USS John Stennis back in Bremerton, Wa. after 8 mo. deployment! and Pete Jr. is on The Asault Ship USS Bataan "The Jaws of the Fleet" somewhere in the Persian Gulf w/ 2,000 Marines aboard. I am one very proud (what they call me)> Big Pops! 


PAlady
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Total Posts : 6795
   Posted 8/8/2009 12:41 AM (GMT -7)   
Pete,
You made me laugh here in the wee hours of the morning and I really needed that!

What am I doing up, you ask? Well, I took a nap earlier this evening (or technically last evening) and screwed up my antibiotic dosing. So now I'm back up to take my last dose but I have to stay upright for at least 1/2 hour. Then I had to have a small snack with it and I can't go right to bed with food in my stomach. The sun will be up before I hit the pillow, I fear.

So while you're sleeping I'll scrounge around in this pit and see what I can whip up for breakfast! Or more likely, brunch!

PaLady

uniquelyme
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Date Joined Nov 2008
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   Posted 8/9/2009 11:00 AM (GMT -7)   
 
 
Hey Pete... I think I'm crazy as well..I don't have a clue what they are talking about, what argument? why does she think she's being selfish?  Maybe something was deleted before we got a chance to read it....I have no idea....
 
Me.

I have been a spectator for so long..Now it's time to participate.......
 
Post Lamenectomy Syndrome, Spinal Stenosis, DDD....
1999 Hemi Lamenectomy/2005 Spinal Fusion(L4-S1)
Methadone 120 mg. a day/  30 mg. Oxycodone as needed(up to 4 x a day)
High Blood Pressure: Lisinopril HCTZ 10 mg. daily
Type 2 Diabetes: (March 16, 2009)
Metformin HCL ER 1000 mg. at night..Glipizide 10mg. 2X in the morning
Lantus 35 units at bedtime with Solostar Pen                                                                   

 

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