Hi... I'm new here and would like to ask if anyone has heard of Hip dysplasia

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Lovintheocean
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   Posted 8/11/2009 3:51 AM (GMT -7)   
 about three years ago I went to the Doctor because my hip was hurting along with my lower back.  The Doctor told me that it wasn't my hip at all that it was all my lower back. So I figured ok then I'll deal with it and have to figure out how to get some relief.  But to no advail I soon went back to the Doctor and he ordered some epideral blocks in the lower lumbar L5, all the way down to S1 because the MRI showed mild disc centrally located buldges.... they didn't give me any help at all, and I still was feeling the pain in my hip more so then any where else.  So to make a long story short after at least 5 or 6 times of going to the orthopedic Doctor not even the same one.  I had gone to two others thinking that well maybe mine just couldn't figure it out, and always they said the same thing.. lower back causing the pain in my hip.  Well last week I went back to the Doctor because for the past month the pain has been intense and miserable in my hip joint.. There was no doubt that it was my hip and the Doctor did an x-ray of my hip which was only the second x ray in three years of my hip.  It showed severe hip dysplasia in of my hip. Which has from what it appears torn the labrum from the constant subluxation... Has anyone ever heard of hip dysplasia in one hip? It has never been reconized prior to last week, although not one of the Doctors would even really listen to me when I kept telling them it was my hip, I even told the Doctor about 2 years ago that if felt like my hip was coming in and out of the joint and that it would pop in this strange position but he told me that was impossible.  Anyway if anyone has heard of it, do you know what the treatment is for it...  the Doctor was vague and he scheduled me for a MRA this week so we can see what damage it has caused to the joint.  This hurts like hell and this entire time it has not been my back at all other then maybe some stiffness here and there but my hip has always hurt, and been the sourse of the pain this entire time if you ask me..... I've tried to look it up online and mostly what comes up is only hip dysplasia in dogs, and in baby's that are born with it, not too much at all about an adult developing it at 46 years old. 
 
If anyone knows anything about this or has experienced it, has it please let me know.. Thanks Bella

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   Posted 8/11/2009 8:31 AM (GMT -7)   
Since this has not been recognized before now and you are 46yrs old, I wonder if maybe the doctor used the term hip dysplasia generically. What I mean is that your hip is showing the signs of hip dysplasia but you don't have "true" hip dysplasia. Maybe it is more of a case of multi-directional instability but he used the term dysplasia instead or incorrectly. Does that make any sense? Maybe you can ask him a lot more questions the next time you see him until you get the info you need. Be assertive if you have to. I am really sorry that you are going through this pain. I have multi-directional instability in my shoulder and it can be quite a problem at times from all that sliding around out of position so I understand what you are going through at least a little bit. Please take care. Lisa
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   Posted 8/14/2009 12:27 PM (GMT -7)   
Lisa,
Yes, I am 100% sure he said "Hip Dysplasia" and added severely. I'm not the type to not ask questions or to feel intimated at all by any Doctors. So I asked a lot of questions when I was in his office and he had told me that this is what the underlying problem is... as far as instability I'd say your most likely correct about me even having MDI in my hip joint because there is so much damage to the capsule, tendon's and labram.. so more then likely that is from the subluxation caused by hip dysplasia. I'm not too sure what to do from here now that I've had the arthrogram MRA and now know what the damage is.. because the way I understand it is that a total hip replacement only last 10 - 15 years and that is in an older person that what I am and less active. So I'm not sure what the other options are as of yet, I will hopefully find out next week when I go in to talk to him again.

I completely understand your problems with your shoulder, I had to have a few surgeries on mine due to MDI, which is why I'm now so concerned with my hip. Have you had any surgery to anchor your shoulder in place yet? It is certainly a problem that can cause a lot of damage to your shoulder joint, and some people don't understand that a shoulder replacement does not help MDI, that it is actually the tendon's and legiments that are the problem with it. I ended up going to a world renowned Orthopedic to have mine repaired sucessfully!

Bella

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   Posted 8/14/2009 1:42 PM (GMT -7)   
Hi Bella. I wasn't questioning that the doctor used the term hip dysplasia. I guess I was questioning the way he used it in regards to your problem. I'm glad that you asked him lots of questions. It does seem odd that only now have you been diagnosed with hip dysplasia since that seems to be picked up on as a baby. Having said that I have congenital abnormal bone placement issues in my feet that could have been corrected if it had been diagnosed when I was a baby. I'm almost 50 and didn't know I had it all this time until about 4 years ago. Too bad it wasn't fix before because now I'm paying the price with foot problems that require surgery the end of this month. No I haven't had any surgery on that MDI shoulder yet. Am trying to do OK without having to go down that road as I know that can be a long, tricky one. I do see a wonderful orthopedic chiropractor that has been working on it but it is resistant to treatment especially since I seem to keep moving it the wrong way and screwing things up. Don't know how long we'll go with treatment before he sends me back to my orthopedic surgeon who sent me to the chiro in the first place. What procedure did you have on your shoulder that did the trick finally for you? Well I hope the doctor has a good solution for you and your hip problem. Maybe it will require a replacement or re-surfacing that will need to be redone somewhere down the line. That's not ideal of course but better than doing nothing but living in pain. We all know that's no way to go. Please let us know what you learn from the doctor next week. Take care, Lisa
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   Posted 8/14/2009 3:53 PM (GMT -7)   
Lisa,

They did an open Bankart procedure, open anterior/inferior Capsular shift, in which the surgeon also repaired all the damage done caused by the MDI. But this was after a Doctor where I live did two surgeries in attempt to repair my shoulder... which didn't work at all. It wasn't easy to go through but it was worth it in the long run. I'll let you know what the Doctor says next week.. and I totally agree with you I've never heard of Hip dysplasia just coming about in anyone in their 40's.... but leave it to me to be one of the few.

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   Posted 8/14/2009 4:53 PM (GMT -7)   
Bella, that was a big surgery for you and am glad that it was worth it. I understand about having "weird" stuff. I had my ACL reconstructed a few years back with donor tissue. I rejected it which is unusual apparently. In fact I was the first patient my ortho had that rejected a donor tissue graft after many, many surgeries using that type of tissue. Boy did that make me feel special! I'm number one! Lisa
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   Posted 8/15/2009 5:49 AM (GMT -7)   
Lisa,

I know it isn't funny that your body rejected the donor tissue but the way you said it was cute. I think with me, my joints are "weird".... with the degree of MDI in my shoulder, and now this with the hip dysplasia... probably all has something to do with the fact that my joints always were flexible, which isn't a horrible thing but yet as we get older it causes the problems with tearing of tendon's and all. My daughter had to have the donor tissue in her knee, as she wore out all the cartlidge in it, but thankfully her body didn't reject it... did yours heal well after the problems after the surgery? Bella

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   Posted 8/15/2009 9:49 AM (GMT -7)   
Bella, you are right. It really wasn't funny but I try to keep a sense of humor about the whole thing if I can. The alternative of crying and feeling sorry for myself isn't very constructive and being in pain has sooo much negative energy associated with it I don't need to add to that with negative emotions. My joints are a little bit too flexible also, or at least they used to be when I was younger. That does come with a price just like you said. You asked me about my knee. 6 weeks after my ACL repair I started having pain problems after breezing through those weeks of rehab. 17 months and 2 knee scopes (to try to save the graft) later the decision was made to do the ACL reconstruction over from scratch. Tough decision for both me and my ortho but it was the right one. So once again had donor tissue since my own tendon was too small to take the graft from. The surgery was successful but since the knee had been so traumatized over those 17 months, the recovery was a *****. At least I didn't reject that one. Slowly it got better and is generally doing pretty well. Unfortunately I had "collateral damage" to my other leg, hip, low back because of the bio-mechanics being so screwed up for so long among other things. Yes, tearing my ACL has been the gift that keeps on giving but I have been working with my chiro to help correct those muscle imbalance issues also and am making progress. Having the foot surgery will set things back a bit but I'm lucky to have my chiro willing and able to help me through the rehab. I really hope that your doctor has a good solution for you and soon. Lisa ps-glad to hear that your daughter did well with the donor tissue-that's the way it is supposed to work, or so I've been told :)
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   Posted 8/17/2009 3:44 PM (GMT -7)   
Hi Lisa,

I totally understand the bio-mechanics being so screwed up and so on. I almost in a way feel my shoulder problems caused me to be so guarded for so long, that it messed up my lower back/hip. Maybe even partially what contributed to the hip dysplasia. I can't say for sure because I have riden horses my whole life, and have raced jet ski's, so I'm sure with those two sports and I may have had a mild case that I was possibly born with didn't help either on top of being so guarded for at least 4 years with all the shoulder surgeries. I got the report today and will see the Doctor tomorrow morning. There's a lot of narrowing in the joint between the cartlige and capsule, and some loss of cartlige as well. The great thing is the labrum tear is so tiny that mostly that isn't what is causing the pain as much as the FAI.... femoral acetabular impingement which is being caused by the HDP, so this means that most likely they will be able to repair without doing a total hip replacement. Which seems to be a difficult surgery compared to a THR, but with the hip replacement surgery, I'd more then likely have to have that replaced because of my age and they only last so long. Where as the resurfacing, and realigning it will help prevent further damage. HOPEFULLY!

I hope your foot surgery goes well!

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   Posted 8/17/2009 5:38 PM (GMT -7)   
Lovintheocean
 
Try Googling Hip Dysplasia you get all kinds of information, there is one site that seems to have some good information on it goto www dot HowStuffWorks dot com and do a search on Hip Dysplasia scroll down past the dysplasia on dog and get to  the human part. There is some really good information there. 
 
Good Luck to You
 
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   Posted 8/17/2009 5:45 PM (GMT -7)   
Hi Bella. You could be right about the guarding of your shoulder effecting your back/hip. I have read about one problem causing problems in distant areas usually due to muscle imbalances(too tight or too loose) and a lot of people never think of that including doctors. Since everything in our bodies are connected it's like the domino effect. Good luck with the doctor tomorrow. Both of the options you mentioned to fix your hip are big surgeries but if resurfacing gets the job done and lasts longer that sounds like the way to go. Who would want to go through THR more than once? I'll keep my fingers crossed for you that tomorrow's appointment gives you what you need, answers and a do-able solution. Take care. Lisa
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   Posted 8/18/2009 2:38 PM (GMT -7)   
Well I went to the Doctor nono and boy was that a mistake. Can you spell A-R-R-O-G-A-N-T!!!  First of all he didn't bother looking at me other then at my chest the entire time I was there. Which was all of maybe 10 minutes that he was in the examining room.  He didn't bother looking at all at the MRA films, I even questioned him on why he wasn't going to look at the films and his comment was that his speciality was arthroscopic surgery, and since there was no labrum tear according to the MRA report by the Radiologist, then there was no point because Hip dysplasia requires an open surgery... So I picked up the top film and said would you please look and tell me what you think as far as the hip dysplasia and tell me how bad it is, if the narrowing, and breaking down of cartlidge is what is what could be causing so much pain, and he said it doesn't look bad at all to him but yet never even looked.. there was at least 25 films in the envelope and he didn't and wouldn't look at even one of them.  I'm a small woman but I am not one to let anyone walk all over me, or treat me like I'm just someone to look at... and I just couldn't believe the arrogance of this guy.  I don't care if he calls himself a HIP SPECAILIST or NOT... he is a Doctor and should act like one, and use his knowlege he recieved in med school to dx, treat, and on how to talk to patients as well and LOOK THEM in the eye not at their chest.  UGG! 
 
So bottom line is the appointment was a waste of time, I called the orthopedic that ordered the orthrogram and said that I have hip dysplasia and talked to the nurse there she wants me to come in Thursday.. she felt really bad when I told her what happened so will see what he says on Thursday.  In the mean time I looked up the web page White Beard suggested and it was very helpful in understand hip dysp.. I also found another page in which Mary Lou Retton has hip dysplasis and didn't find out until a few years ago, in which the Doctor had to do a THR... and basically said she will also need it in her other hip as well in time... So I don't feel so alone now that I am finding others with the same problem in which they were totally unaware of until they started experiencing the pain that it can and often does cause.  I suppose the big thing for me now is finding a Doctor locally that can treat it, repair it, or whatever in order to get some relief.  I don't want to have to travel for treatment because I know that isn't easy since I had to with my shoulder, but if that's what it will take then I will.... Thanks for listening.. I think, I really needed to vent after this appointment today. 
 
Any suggestions would be great! 
 
Bella

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   Posted 8/18/2009 3:03 PM (GMT -7)   
Bella

I am sorry for your bad experience with that surgeon! Unfortunately allot of surgeons are like that! I do think that is why some Doctors become surgeons, they do not have any people skiills and they are ARROGANT and being a surgeon they really have minimal patient contact, verses orther medical specialties. I always conpared surgeon to fighter jocks in the Air Force, they are so full of them selves and arrogant but they do their job well, and they do stuff that no one else ( or very few) can do! And they know it! Anyway I do wish you well and hope everything works out for you! Please know that coming here to this forum that you are not alone! Reguardless on what cause your pain, we all, know what it is like to have it! We are all here to help and support each other, vent all you want when ever you want, you will alway find someone here to listen!
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   Posted 8/18/2009 6:24 PM (GMT -7)   
Thanks White Beard, I really felt like crying but then I thought I'm not going to let that jerk of a Doctor get to me. I know there are some just like him out there that think there all that, and more. I just want to get to the bottom of this and hopefully get some relief soon.

Peace to you Bella

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   Posted 8/18/2009 9:27 PM (GMT -7)   
Bella
I hate Doctors that make you feel that way! I have seen so many of them, that are so arrogant and Patronizing! and I hate to be patronized when Doctors do that I just want to....argh! I will not say what I am thinking. The sad thing is, that really they are working for us, we are their bosses! If it wasn't for us they would not have a job or get paid! Whether by us directly or our insurance, if it wasn't for us they would not get a pay check! And it does irritate me to think I am paying a Doctor money just to have him blow me off! Bella I know exactly how you feel and where you are coming from! I hope you can get some resolution soon. But you always have us here to come to!

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   Posted 8/19/2009 7:38 AM (GMT -7)   
White Beard,

Last night a good friend of mine (who is a surgeon) but not an orthopedic surgeon called to see how the appointment went. So I told him about what happened and asked what gives with the one's like the one I went to. He said well first of all your right they think they are so important, and the ones that act like he did by not even looking at the MRA films think they can say whatever they want and that the patients will believe them just because they think they are so important, and because I questioned the fact that he didn't even look at the MRA films or examine my hip that problably insulted his higher then thou ego, but he said if he was a good surgeon and someone that truly cared about his patients he would have respected any patient speaking up for themselves and questioning why he didn't even look at the films.

When I had to have all the surgeries on my shoulder I went to a world renowned surgeon out of state, and I remember when he walked into the examining room wearing a gold colored Italian silk suit, with an entourage behind him and a few Docs that were doing their fellowship under him thinking "oh lord what have I done coming to someone like him". He had me lay down on the examing table and took at least 45 mintues examing my shoulder, working with my shoulder this way and that way, then had hung every single MRI film up on this huge xray lamp, and he went through every single one of them with such thought to every single detail on them. He would ask one of the fellow Doc's what they thought or saw, and of course they wouldn't give him the right answer, and I was thinking man I feel sorry for those fellow docs with his stern and firm voice just snapping at them (like they were kids that did somthing horribly wrong) then he looked at me and said what the hell did they do to your arm down there where you live. I started to get a tear in my eye and said I don't know that's why I'm here thinking ok now he is going to talk to me the way he just did his fellowship Docs that were afraid to say a word to him. But he looked at me and winked and asked me if I was ready for surgery the next morning... and explained in detail all that was wrong with my shoulder, what he was going to do and how he was going to being doing it. He said I promise you, your shoulder can be saved, and that I will see. This was after three failed attempts by two Doctors where I live that had performed unsucessful surgeries. He had to do two surgeries because that's how bad the damage was to my shoulder, so he planned the surgeries in a way that would allow him to be sucessful at repairing it. Although he came off as being one of those Doctors that thought they were higher then thou, he truly wasn't at all. He would fly down to where I live occationally and do the post operative examines and whenever I did have to go back to see him for the post op care he would make sure that he had someone at the airport waiting to pick me up to bring me to the hotel, and back and forth to his office. So the point is that those that are really wonderful surgeon's with a lot of experience and knowlege treat their patients kindly, and respectfully which is partly what makes them the world renowned surgeon's they have become so reconized as... I called him yesterday and told him what's been going on with my hip and about the surgeon I went to yesterday, he was PO'ed, and he highly recommended two orthopedic surgeon's that speacialize in hips, of course they are not in the area I live in. So I will see what the orthopedic says tomorrow, and I will probably end up sending my reports and films to the two that he suggested, one is in Tx and the other is in Vail Co. I'm truly hoping that the one that ordered the MRA and had explained to me that I have hip dysplasia will be able to explain the MRA films and give me some good news as far as it being able to be repaired or at least how I can get some releif, so will see what happens tomorrow.

I'm sure with you in the USAF you saw those that thought they were all the higher then thou as well. But even if they know what others don't know or understand with their specialized training and experience that doesn't make them an extrodinary person the way I see it. To me a person's experience doesn't reflect whom they are as a person, I feel that an extrodinary person doesn't have to act the way some do, because their experience shows who they are not their higher then thou attitude, that just shows who they aren't as a person. I truly believe that a person whether a Doctor, professional athelete, high ranking USAF, or everyday average person doesn't have to tell others what or how experienced they are at something because we can all see it, in the way they act, and how they are towards others. Your right we as patients pay them, they are in essence working for us, and I wouldn't have a paid employee working for me with the attitude that the orthopedic surgeon I saw yesterday work for my business, so i certainly wouldn't pay him any longer with the care of my own body. I can't help but to wonder how many patients would return to the type I went to yesterday. They can't compare to any that do have a wonderful reputation, that's for sure. I could never compare this one that I went to yesterday to the one that did the surgeries on my shoulder... and there is a huge differance in their experience, one no one would know at all if you mentioned the one I went to yesterday who he is or where, and the other one everyone has heard of all over the world, but the one that everyone knows would never come off as a jerk to anyone at all (other then the Doc's doing their fellowships) under him...ha ha ha but they surely make sure everyone knows they did their fellowship under him, and you can clearly see the respect they have towards him, and honor they have for his experience.

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   Posted 8/19/2009 1:41 PM (GMT -7)   
Wow Bella. I was out of town so just now read about your "adventure" with the ortho "god". Wow, what a jerk! Sorry you had to go through that. I have been fortunate myself to never experience something that bad. My ortho guy is one of those who is high profile also with an excellent background so I was pleasantly surprised when I first met him by his down-to-earth demeanor. But I remember after my first ACL surgery when I started having problems after recovering so well, he kind of verbally patted me on the hand telling me that it was OK. That ticked me off big time. Well I went on to prove him wrong and I never got anything close to attitude from him again and he saw me through to the conclusion. If he had a big ego before, our little odyssey with my knee killed that off. I think it was a learning experience for both of us. Now that guy who finally fixed your shoulder definitely sounds like a keeper. It sounds like going to him isn't an option so hopefully the doctors he mentioned will be just as great if you do go to one of them. The nature of your problem seems unusual enough that it may take some hard looking to get the right guy to fix it. Please try to be patient and thoughtful in your decision and don't let the pain make the decision for you. Well I hope your appointment tomorrow goes much better and you get more answers that the jerk couldn't be bothered with. Be well and hang in there. I'm sure help is coming for you. Lisa
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   Posted 8/19/2009 2:24 PM (GMT -7)   
Lisa, and White Beard,

Lisa - It really did break my heart in a way that a Doctor could be such a jerk, but as we all know there will always be some that can be so full of themselves that you just have to say "it's alright, I don't have to go back to him" and know that he doesn't have a clue at the same time.. ha ha He really doesn't!

To both of you, so today I went to a chiropractor hoping that just maybe he could do something... lol there's nothing wrong with hoping is there...well he looked at the xray and the MRI films and gave me that look and then said you know the reputation that us chiropractors have "we will keep you coming back for as long as we can" and I laughed and said yes... my grandfather was a chiropractor and I've heard that from many people over the years.. he then said you must go back to the orthopedic that ordered the MRA and dx the hip dysplasia and said it really looks like you will have to have surgery and there is no way your hip is normal. Then explained to me what is wrong and why basically. He then suggested that if I don't get anywhere with him, to come back and that he would get in touch with this HIP Doc in Vail Co... So I said his name and told him that my orthopedic in Alabama also suggested him to me. So it sounds like he is the guy to go to for this problem... hopefully the orthopedic will be able to at least give some relief maybe with a shot of cortazone into the hip joint but even with that the chiropractor said that will only be temporary relief. Too bad I can't ski right now with my hip the way if feels because I've heard Vail is beautiful and the place for some good skiing.

Lisa I would love to send the hip doc that was such a jerk a letter once I see the other two orthopedics the one here and the one if Vail.. and I just might do it too... just to say "you know you are a real jerk, and you might want to go back to med school to gain some knowledge, and learn how to listen to your patients". I'm so glad you were able to prove yours wrong in the way you did Lisa, sometimes they have to be put back into place to bring them back to reality.

Will let you know what the Doc says tomorrow. I already had called the office of the one if Vail yesterday before the Chiropractor even suggested him, so his administrator called me today and told me to go ahead and send off the films to him to review and that it might take a week for him to get back to me but he will without a doubt.

Peace to you both, Bella

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   Posted 8/19/2009 3:13 PM (GMT -7)   
Bella

I have seen Doctors from both the patients view and as an RN from the other side as well! They have proven that a Doctor can be the very best in his or her field and yet if they have a poor bedside mannor they usually have more lawsuits against them. Even the most incompetent Doctor if he/she has a excellent bedside manner and treats their patients really good they have far less lawsuits and legal problems! Patients want to be treated with diginity and respect! and all Doctors should do that! And if you can find a really Good Doctor and also treats their patients really good, ......well.........that is a Doctor that is worth his weight in GOLD! It sounds like you got the Gold mine with that Doctor who did your shoulder! If your able it is worth the travel to go to see a really Good Doctor! I will be curious to see what your Doc will tell you tomorrow, I will be looking forward to your post about it! Hang in there Bella I hope that Doctor in Vail can do something with your Hip! Colorado is such a beautiful place! Maybe you can have some fun if you go there! You know Bella, it sounds like you have went through quite abit already with your shoulder! I do wish you well with your Hip! Please take care of yourself!

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   Posted 8/19/2009 3:20 PM (GMT -7)   
Oh Bella, the surgeon who fixed your shoulder is from Alabama? I think I know who you are talking about (we aren't supposed to name names here I believe, so I won't say) My ortho guy did his fellowship with him. It is a small world. Lisa

PS- If you go to the guy in Vail maybe he'll spring for a lift ticket for when he declares you all healed up. That would be pretty cool.
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   Posted 8/19/2009 5:19 PM (GMT -7)   
Lisa ... I'm sure you do know who he is if you've followed any professional athelets and their shoulder problems/surgeries. He is the man to go to for the shoulders that's for sure. White Beard- I couldn't agree with you more as far as if they have the bedside mannor and the knowledge to go along with it, is the weight of GOLD, and after meeting my orthopedic in Alabama I can so understand why his reputation as being world renowned follows him. Maybe your ortho guy was one of those doing their fellowship the few times I was there.. in a way I felt sorry for them but at the same time they applied to go under him to do their fellowship so they must know his knowledge and you have to expect with someone like him to be kind of hard on his fellowship docs... they were all always really nice, and would come in to the hospital to check on me after the two surgeries he did, and they all talked highly of my Doc.. so they all respect him greatly too.

I'm not real curious too as to what the Doc will say tomorrow since I talked to the chiropractor today. I really did go through a lot with my shoulder so there is no way that I want the same to happen with my hip, so that's probably why I'm stressing about this besides the pain that you just can't get a break from.... so I will do what it takes to make sure it is the right doc to take care of it no matter what.

Peace to you both, will let you know tomorrow what he says. Good night. Bella

White Beard
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   Posted 8/19/2009 9:04 PM (GMT -7)   
Bella

Good Luck to you tomorrow! I do hope your Appointment goes well!

Peace be with YOU!

White Beard
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I'm Retired USAF, went back to school and became an RN, and now am on full disalbility!--Degenerative Disc (affecting mostly the thorasic disc but all levels involved), C6/7 laminectomy/diskectomy& fusion, Osteoarthritis, Ulcerative colitis, Chronic Pain, Fibromyalgia, Complex Sleep Apnea, and host of other things to spice up my life!(NOT!) Medications: Oxycontin, Percocet, Baclofen, Sulfasalazine, Metoprolol, Folic Acid, Supplemental O2 at 3lpm with VPAP Adapt SV


Lovintheocean
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   Posted 8/20/2009 8:40 AM (GMT -7)   
Well I went back to the Orthopedic that ordered the MRA this morning. So the first thing I asked was, what is up with one of your partner's... Dr. XYZ.  He apoligized and said he is going through a divorce....my reply was I'm sorry to hear that but I can see why since he is a arrogant *&@*.  He smiled, and said you could tell.  So that was out of the way, and of course he picked up the films and reviewed all of them, there is a tear that the radiologist missed, and of course there is a thinning of the cartlige, and narrowing of the space.... so he suggested to do an arthroscope and he will try to clean it out, and repair the tear if he can once he is in there... If for whatever reason he can't then we would go ahead with the THP because I will need one soon anyway's because of the hip dysplasia... but if he is able to repair the tear that alone may give me enough relief from the pain that I can wait a while longer to do the THR. 
I mentioned the Doctor in Vail, and also that the chiropractor suggested that I see him. and he said he knows him and that he assured me that he is just as capable as the Doc in Vail to do what has to be done.  I know the one I went to today is the Chief of Orthopedics at one Hospital here where I live and he seems to know what he is talking about too.  He showed me the tear on the MRA films and I could see exactly where the contrast was leaking into the area where the tear is... so that I saw with my own two eyes.  He again apoligized for his partner.  He has at least 12 Orthopedics in his Group that he formed 20 years ago, and I know the ego one just joined not too long ago... So I have a feeling this Doc today will have a talk with him, one for being a jerk/rude, and then for not even looking at the films. I didn't bother telling him about where his eyes were the whole time I was in there because I just felt it was better to leave that alone, but at least he knows he has some sort of problem.  I can't say what it's like to go through a divorce but I can say that I worked for a Doctor for many years and he went through a divorce during the time I was working with him, and he never treated his patients the way this guy did. 

solar powered
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   Posted 8/20/2009 9:56 AM (GMT -7)   
Hi Bella. It sounds like you had a pretty good, informative appt. this morning. I know you just saw the doctor but I was wondering what you are thinking about doing at this point. It sounds like scoping your hip may buy you more time but doesn't really fix the problem. THR is a big surgery but would fix the problem. But it comes with its own set of possible problems such as dislocation, revision, etc. Is hip re-surfacing a possibility? It can be a hard choice to decide between conservative(scope) and aggressive(THR). With my foot surgery coming up I had to decide that. The first dr said I needed to have half of my foot worked on while the second dr said that would potentially cause way more problems for me plus difficult, long recovery. He thought a more conservative approach was better. Both doctors said their way would fix it so for me it was difficult to decide who was right since their approaches were so far apart. After studying up on the two options and talking to my rehab chiro I decided to go conservative. We both thought it was way easier to go more aggressive later if needed but impossible to take aggressive back if it was the wrong choice. Hopefully I made the right decision. I'm sure the ghosts of previous post-op recoveries had a say in the matter also but I hope that didn't color my thinking too much. I don't know if that relates to your situation or not but I guess I'm trying to say that I appreciate the decisions you need to make and the seriousness of them. Also what are you thinking doctor-wise? I know the guy you saw today said he is as good as the CO guy but maybe you can still send your films to CO to get a second opinion. You sure want the best possible outcome with this so talking to the CO guy or another ortho might be a really good idea. I sure don't envy you with all these decisions to make. I'll say a prayer that whatever you decide is the perfect choice for you. Lisa
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Lovintheocean
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   Posted 8/20/2009 10:20 AM (GMT -7)   
Thank you Lisa for your input, I was thinking all the same that you have mentioned here. Of course when you get to your appointment, and they say "here is the tear" and this may help a lot. My first thought was oh thank God because now at least I'll get some relief. However, your right which is the better way conservative by repairing the tear and cleaning out the joint arthroscopically, or should I go for the open surgery and resurfacing, or the third option a total hip replacement. I mentioned to him this morning about the THR not lasting too long at all, according to all I've read and he stated that they do last a lot longer now days because they have improved them so much in the past few years.

They scheduled me for the surgery for 9/11 but that also gives me plenty of time to send off the films to the Doc in Vail, and from what I'm hearing and even what his administrator said he will look over them and then they will get back to me and let me know what the best outcome and option would be in his opinion and with him doing the surgery. So for sure I am going to get the films out to him today, and hopefully I will hear something from him by next Friday. I was reading a board on Arthroscopic surgery to repair the labrum tear(s), and it didn't seem like too many of them had much luck with it... then there was one that had that done then went to the Doc in Vail Co.. so I'm not real sure right now. I'm going to do some more checking on the Doctor that I went to today, and see what people think of him and his work, then will make a final decission based on what the Doc says in Co, and what others have to say... The doctor I used to work for can and will also check for me on the Doctor here... so that kind of helps a lot.

If you don't mind me asking, what's wrong with your foot. Foot surgery was the specialty that the Doctor I used to work for practiced. I know those surgeries can be pretty complex, I used to go into the OR with the Doc and was always amazed as to the complexity of the surgeries he preformed.

I felt kind of comfortable about the surgery and before I read your reply I had started to think exactly the options you mentioned. I hate the thought of not being able to get back to riding, or the jet ski's for so long with either surgery but at the same time, if I don't do anything at all, the pain will continue and who knows how much more damage could happen as well.. So I know I have to do something it's just what is truly the best option.. I think hearing what the Doc says in Co will help me make that final decission.

Bella
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