severe pain from spinal surgury

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tim2tone
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   Posted 8/28/2009 2:19 PM (GMT -7)   
HI MY NAME IS TIM AND IM IN SERIOUS AIN FROM A SURGURY 1 YEAR OGO THE SURGONS SAY THE BONE DIDNT FUSE BECAUSE OF SMOKING.ANY WAY I HAVE BEEN PRESCRIBED 120 PERCOCETS A MONTH THEY ONLY LAST 15 DAYS BECAUSE OF MY PAIN I KNOW I HAVE A PROBLEM BUTWHAT ELSE ARE MY CHOICES THE SURGEON SAID AUG 27 I NEED ANOTHER SURGURY IF I QUIT SMOKING THEY WILL DO IT.MY PROBLEM IS IM OK TAKING THE PAIN PILLS BUT I DONT HAVE ENOUGH TO LAST ME ALL MONTH

PAlady
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   Posted 8/28/2009 3:29 PM (GMT -7)   
Hello, Tim2tone,
Welcome to the Chronic Pain forum of Healing Well. I'm sorry to learn your fusion didn't work, but that happens for many of us.

How is the percocet prescribed? In other words, there is usually a Maximum Daily Dose (MDD) of a given medication, and with percocet that's even more important because it contains tylenol. Your doctor obviously doesn't want you taking more than 120 in a month, so that is 4/day. Also, are they 10mg percocet or 5 mg? You may be abusing your medication - and that is the case if you're not taking them as prescribed.

You really need to discuss this issue with your doctor. There are many aids now to help you quit smoking, and it sounds like you need to do that first or a doctor isn't going to do another fusion.

If you're looking to control your pain with medications only, then you will not be able to take the amount of percocet you are taking, and you need to work with a pain management specialist about other options. If you don't want the surgery, or want to quit smoking, then speak with your doctor about referral to a pain management specialist.

Still, even for those of us who have done numerous treatments and take a variety of medicaitons, they do not take away all the pain. We have to learn to manage it, to handle a certain level of pain, and to do other things such as heat/ice, physical therapy, techniquies learned from a pain psychologist, etc. and do the best we can to put an entire pain management package together. Just be sure you're taking the medication as it's prescribed, and then speak with your doctor.

PaLady

Smoochie
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   Posted 8/28/2009 5:04 PM (GMT -7)   
I take 120 every 15 days but we worked up to that, I didn't start out that way, and I started with the 5 mg and progressed forward. As PAlady said speak with your doctor. Now about the smoking biz, they always blame everything on smoking and you know why? Because it causes so many.many things to go wrong in our bodies and I know what you are saying "its the only thing that keeps me going" right because I used to think that way when I snoked. I smoked a pack and half a day, then one day after having my last bronchial infection I decided this is it I want to quit, but I couldn't do it myself so I went to a place called Welplex where they give you two shots behind the ears and one in the hip and then some follow up medication that blocks the physical need to smoke it was the most wonderful thing I have ever done for me. It is a little expensive but its a whole lot more expensive to keep smoking! It cost me about 425 but I have never looked back,off topic but just a note. Please take care and I hope you the best, good luck!
Kel
 


PAlady
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   Posted 8/28/2009 8:16 PM (GMT -7)   
Smoochie,
Good for you on the smoking! I used to smoke 3 packs a day but quit back in 1990, thankfully. Yes, it does interfere with lots of things, including oxygen and other nutrient circulating throughout the body.

I'm surprised you're up to 120 percocet every 15 days - mostly because of the tylenol issue. I think there may be some limitations on that coming up in the future with meds. that contain tylenol. There was some discussion about it here not too long ago.

PaLady

fatherjohn
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   Posted 8/29/2009 12:07 AM (GMT -7)   
Tim, welcome to the forum. There are many of us on this forum that have failed back surgeries. That is where the pain management comes in. I had to take a hard look at the amounts of meds I was taking for pain at one point and made the decision to find another way to reduce the pain meds. Unfortunatly it seems that you are in a difficult point. The data shows that smoking limits the ability of the bones to fuse. I am also an ex smoker but it was a blessing when I made the clean break from it. I agree in the point with your dr that a major step is the smoking. If it interferred with the fusion once it will probably do it again. Who in the right mind or wrong mind would want to go through another fusion surgery? I have had three back surgeries and I would have to be talked very hard into another one. My fusion was a sucsess from the fusion point but the nerve damage is a whole other issue.
 
Without attacking the smoking issue, the pain meds will only help so far and then they will become the problem. The less you have to rely on them the better. I would encourage you to ask your doctor for help quitting smoking and then look at the option of re-doing the fusion.

bsjaguar
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   Posted 8/29/2009 3:37 AM (GMT -7)   
Hi, Tim. I am a smoker 1-1.5 pks per day. I had lumbar and cervical fusion in 2006. I did not quit smoking completely but I did try my hardest to cut back before my lumbar surgery and for a month after until I saw that I was fusing. I wore a spine fusion stimulator that is recommended for smokers, diabetics, overweight people or others that are at high risk for not fusing. After my surgery I also walked. Starting with short walks (always using my walker) then extending to long walks everyday. Walking helps the bones fuse. Maybe this is a possibility for you if stopping is not working. Oh, yea, I also wore my turtle shell back brace for a long time when I walked and always carried my cell phone in case I fell. I used my walker for a month while walking for fear of falling. Wishing you the best and like Father John said the fusion can be a success but you can still have lifelong pain afterwards, this is my case too.
---Jag---
 
DDD, osteoarthritis, fusion surgeries C-5/7 & L-4/5 both in 2006, torn meniscus left knee 2000 & 2002, buldging disc L-2/3


Scarred_for_life
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   Posted 8/29/2009 2:39 PM (GMT -7)   
Hi Tim. Welcome to the forum. I am saddened to see another person in Chronic Pain from a failed surgery. I too suffered from this and ended up having to go in for a revision on the fusion that did not heal. Even though I was using my fusion stim and back brace after the surgery it didn't take and it was very painful. So you're not alone in this area.

Now....I hate to admit it but I too am smoker. I asked my doctor for a script for a smoking cessassion (spelling) to help me stop smoking. I really want to quit cause ONE: I am tired of coughing all the time and TWO: I want to be healthier for the remainder of my life. I know I can't do it on my own and I decided to reach out for help. I quit a few years back and was smoke free for 3 years but, boredom took me once again down the road I really didn't want to go.

That said.....I wish you all the luck in the world quitting and hope that the surgery will help you.

Scarred
What doesn't kill us only makes us fight back harder! :P

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