Cervicogenic headache

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bsjaguar
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   Posted 10/3/2009 11:26 AM (GMT -7)   
My husband is experiencing headaches that start at the base of the skull (sore to touch) and migrate up the back of the skull and around the ear.  His symptoms sound alot like Cervicogenic headache.  I was wondering if anyone here at the forum has these types of headaches and where did you start for help.  He will call the doctor Monday for an appt but I thought I'd ask the forum group for some information also.  With all the neck issues alot of us have here I figured someone would have some incite to give us.  He was in a serious car accident years ago with most of the injuries being to the face & neck area.  I saw where facet joint injections were an option and I'm just wondering if arthritis has set in after time.
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DDD, osteoarthritis, fusion surgeries C-5/7 & L-4/5 both in 2006, torn meniscus left knee 2000 & 2002, buldging disc L-2/3


PAlady
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   Posted 10/3/2009 3:36 PM (GMT -7)   
Jag,
Certainly sounds like old injuries could be contributing to if not causing the headaches, but so many things can cause them I think the only thing to do is have it checked.

Has he had any past treatment for his neck - like PT or other modalities? Arthritis sure does set in as we age, and various imaging studies are probaby the only way to determine this (X-rays, MRI's, etc.). Maybe a neurologist is in order, but his doctor could help him rule out any other potential causes.

Good luck!

PaLady

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   Posted 10/3/2009 7:43 PM (GMT -7)   
Jag,
I used to get them awful. They are much better now (though still hit me on the really bad days). Has your husband ever been evaluated for Arnold Chiari malformation? Often it can lie dormant for many years & manifest after a whiplash-type injury -- mine happened after a tumble head-first down a flight of stairs, but I know a lot of people who got symptoms from roller coaster or auto accidents.

I sure hope he finds something that helps. Short term, cervical collars helped me (though that can make it worse over the long run). I eventually needed surgery, but it did help a lot.

take care,
Frances

White Beard
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   Posted 10/3/2009 8:20 PM (GMT -7)   
Jag
I get them and they told me my disk fusion may or may not make them go away. They are not gone yet! And to put it bluntly the head aches are a real pain! My father used to get them, he had arthritis so bad in his neck that his vertebra were fusing together. Anyway he went to Mayo Clinic and they told the muscles at the base of his skull were in spasms and causing the head aches. They actually gave him Botox injections around the base of his skull and it totally relieved his headaches and it gave him close to 9 months of relief! Now whether that is a vialble option for everyone I do not know. But it did work for him!

White Beard
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I'm Retired USAF, went back to school and became an RN, and now am on full disalbility!--Degenerative Disc (affecting mostly the thorasic disc but all levels involved), C6/7 laminectomy/diskectomy& fusion, Osteoarthritis, Ulcerative colitis, Chronic Pain, Fibromyalgia, Complex Sleep Apnea, and host of other things to spice up my life!(NOT!) Medications: Oxycontin, Percocet, Baclofen, Sulfasalazine, Metoprolol, Folic Acid, Supplemental O2 at 3lpm with VPAP Adapt SV


bsjaguar
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   Posted 10/4/2009 7:50 AM (GMT -7)   
Thanks to everyone for the advice. It's weird cause he doesn't have them until he sits or lies down. Is now sleeping with two pillows and that seems to help. It does seem to me that the old accident has caused some arthritis to set into his facet joints in the neck or possibly he has a buldging disc. We will follow-up with his pcp first then probably my PM for further evaluation for PT, facet injections or surgery if need be. I know the insurance company will want him to try all the non-invasive steps first. Reading on the internet states the these types of headaches are usually the upper cervical areas causing the problems. I'll keep you updated.
---Jag---
 
DDD, osteoarthritis, fusion surgeries C-5/7 & L-4/5 both in 2006, torn meniscus left knee 2000 & 2002, buldging disc L-2/3


Chartreux
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   Posted 10/4/2009 8:37 AM (GMT -7)   
Jag,
have his doctor refer him to a neurologist and get some mri's done, and yes car accidents can have lingering results
Hope this info helps and good luck, see what a neurologist says before going the pain management route...
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drbeth
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   Posted 10/4/2009 9:52 PM (GMT -7)   
I had occipital neuralgia with pain that wrapped around to the front of my face. Facet injections have helped a lot but need to be redone every six months. I did lumbar blocks without being put out but I was told the neck injections are just way to painful not to be knocked out.
Because I have so much pain in different areas I finally went to Oxycontin 10 mg. It was so much better because it had no tylenol in it and it was long acting so the pain stopped waking me up. Most docs are afraid to prescribe it.

I have fibro, breast cancer treated with chemo and radiation, chronic fatigue, bone grinding bone in my hip, depression and anxiety, interstitial cystitis, radiculopathy and bone spurs on spine, 4 herniated discs. Cymbalta has changed me for the better. It is a great drug. I rotate sleep meds so that they keep working. If I take the same one too long it stops working. Sleep meds are to help me get some solid sleep before my bladder wakes me up to pee (which it was doing every hour). Poor sleep is our biggest enemy.

I am so fortunate to have a great pain doc and a great psychiatrist. Worst part is seeing pharmacist who (has not met me) when they look up my prescription record. Some just claim they are out of oxycontin. The regulars know me, see that I go to all the same doctors. and they respect my pain.
Best of luck. You are not alone!
Beth

White Beard
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   Posted 10/4/2009 11:19 PM (GMT -7)   
drbeth

Welcome to the Healing Well Chronic Pain Forum, may I suggest that you start a new thread introducing yourself to to us and please include anything and everything that you are comfortable with sharing about yourself and your condition! You have already shared allot in your post, but starting a new thread introducing yourself always makes it so much easier, and knowing how everyone is here, they will all want to say Hello to you and Welcome you to our group! I personally think we have the best bunch of compassionate caring people that you will find anywhere on the internet! I do hope you will stick around and you will end up feeling the same way!
Anyway again I want to Welcome you Beth to the forum and our family!

White Beard
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I'm Retired USAF, went back to school and became an RN, and now am on full disalbility!--Degenerative Disc (affecting mostly the thorasic disc but all levels involved), C6/7 laminectomy/diskectomy& fusion, Osteoarthritis, Ulcerative colitis, Chronic Pain, Fibromyalgia, Complex Sleep Apnea, and host of other things to spice up my life!(NOT!) Medications: Oxycontin, Percocet, Baclofen, Sulfasalazine, Metoprolol, Folic Acid, Supplemental O2 at 3lpm with VPAP Adapt SV


PAlady
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   Posted 10/5/2009 1:20 AM (GMT -7)   
Beth,
I also want to welcome you to the chronic pain forum, and encourage you to follow White Beard's suggestion if you want to.

I'm sorry you have to be here, but very glad you have decided to join our group. It is an awesome support resource.

Again, welcome.

PaLady
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