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   Posted 10/10/2009 7:18 PM (GMT -6)   
Hello everyone,

It's been three weeks since my Prolotherapy and more importantly.... three weeks off of all medication...

Starting to feel myself again.... last night slept without taking a 1/3 of one Ambien pill.... energy level is almost back to normal.

This week I started back to my normal active life...

I have had to take 1/2 of a 15mg Oxycodone here and there (in three weeks I took a total of 2 pills)... but not on a regular basis... it's tough but manageable.... I've been using my TENS unit a lot.... meditating.... listening to Deepak Chopra's... The New Physics of Healing.... massage....hanging upside down on my inversion table... and exercising.

Seems the pain is the same as when I was on all those medications.

Prolotherapy I feel.... has helped me with the support of my head tremendously..... I am having my second round of injections in two weeks.

My Dr. just prescribed me Lidocaine 5% patches to wear on the back of my neck.... I am having a heck of a time trying to get them to stay put.... also out of my hair...ouch!! Since I am in FL I am constantly sweating which doesn't help them to adhere.... the only way I can get them to stay is to cover the entire patch with a sheet of very, very thin medical tape.. which I cut to size

I am going to call my Dr. on Monday to see if it is OK to cover the entire patch and also for a rebate card.

I was wondering anyone's experience with these patches.... they cost me $190 for 30..... how long do you wear them for... I think they will help me since this is the only thing I am doing as far as meds

Thanks and thinking of everyone

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   Posted 10/10/2009 7:35 PM (GMT -6)   
Hi Draka:

May I ask: What is Prolotherapy - I've never heard of it? I'm glad it is helping you!

Your post made me laugh, I just came on HW to ask the same question about making the lidocaine patches stick. My son was prescribed them for low back pain and the first few stuck just fine, but the last 3 won't stick for anything!

My husband used them a few years ago, and I can remember once in a while him having a problem if he was sweating, but it's chilly here already and that is not the reason.


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   Posted 10/10/2009 7:38 PM (GMT -6)   
Different doctors give different instructions on how they want you to use them. MY last PM Rx'ed them: On no more than 12 - 18 hours. Off a minimum of 6 hours. Use no more than 4 at any given time. I always had to tape them down on the edges or they would start to roll up and the next you know they would be in a big wad. They are very expensive and I felt they offered very minor relief for the type of pain that I have. The are used often with patients that have shingle pain.

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   Posted 10/10/2009 8:13 PM (GMT -6)   

From what I've read..because I've never used them...a couple of things that can help them stay on are...

1) use rubbing alcohol and clean the area thoroughly...then clean it again! Most often that alone will do the trick.

2) And/or use Tegaderm by 3M. They are available at most pharmacies. From what others shared a while back on Healing Well, they really do keep any type of transdermal patch in place. BUT...make sure it's OK to use them over the patch you are using. The pharmacist should be able to answer that question for you.

Good luck!
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   Posted 10/10/2009 9:09 PM (GMT -6)   
The heat will also effect the patch, I have Lidocaine patches and can't use them as the combination
of the heat and the patch makes me very very sick..just a head up on that...
Sure hope the patch works good for you...
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   Posted 10/10/2009 9:22 PM (GMT -6)   
Hi Draka,

I used lidocaine patches for about 6 mo. I was told 12 hrs on, 12 hrs off (but not to go over 12 hrs on). I wore them at night, since I wore them on my face & I looked like the phantom of the opera! smilewinkgrin I found that if I didn't wash my face with soap & water first, the patches would come off much more easily. I just used plain old cloth medical tape from the pharmacy to tape down the edges. That worked pretty well, and the tape was light enough that it didn't hurt my face, yet heavy enough that it'd hold the edges of the patch down. I think it cost $4 for a roll of the tape & it would last me 3 - 4 wks. The downside of the patches is that they are very expensive!

Congrats on being off all the medication! I'm glad to hear that your neck is feeling better with the prolotherapy & you're feeling more like yourself! That's fantastic!


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   Posted 10/10/2009 10:26 PM (GMT -6)   
Hi Draka,
I had mine on for 8 hours at a time, but my doc told me to shave/wax the area where I was applying them. That did help them to stick (I read another person wrote to use alcohol -- if you do that, definitely don't do it right after shaving the area -- yeah, I guess I should have known that ;). I also used tape, but found that the regular tape didn't help much & the waterproof tape caused open sores. All told, what worked best for me was cleaning & drying the area well & keeping it shaved (which kinda sucked b/c it was at the base of my head where I had a painful surgical scar).

If you can't get it to work no way-no how, maybe you could talk to your doc about other options. Eventually I got very allergic to the topical lidocaine. My doc switched me to a compounded gel made with ketamine. More recently, the Voltaren gel came on the market. It is an NSAID. I was on that for about a year, but just switched back to the ketamine compound again due to the fact that I'm trying to get my hair to grow back in after thyroid issues & NSAIDS applied to the head can inhibit growth of new hair.

I like both of those options better because then I don't have to worry about keeping that stupid hot, sticky patch adhered to my body & I can put it on in whatever "shape" necessary. Due to insurance issues, my doc has suggested I try OTC aspercreme. I'm not sure what all issues you have, but maybe you could talk to your doc about what options you might have that wouldn't require having to try to keep a patch on (a friend of mine even got a gel compounded at a local pharmacy with topical lidocaine -- same concept as lidoderm, but without the actual patch). Just a few thoughts.

Hope you find something that works! I know how helpful topical products can be so I wish you much luck!


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   Posted 10/11/2009 8:23 AM (GMT -6)   
I used the lidoderm patches for shingles recently. Started putting them on after my shower in the evenings but had problems with them sticking so tried waiting til morning and wearing them during the day. This did help not putting them on after the shower. I thought clean skin would be better but it wasn't and I was waiting awhile so I was good and dry. In areas where I would bend I did have to use some paper type medical tape.

Mine was prescribed 12 on 12 off and no more than 3 at one time. You can cut them in pieces the size you need, that could help you save on the cost if you can cut one in half for the size of area you need.
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   Posted 10/11/2009 4:19 PM (GMT -6)   
So my patch is on thanks to the great tips I got.... never thought to shave the back of my neck... but it's done... so a big thanks Frances! I will ask my Dr. next time about the topical stuff. I do have Voltaren gel but because of the Prolotherapy I cannot use any NSAIDS.... they undo/prevent the healing.

I think Dr's should be aware of the cost of what they are prescribing.

Lorie.... Prolotherapy is injections into the ligaments and tendons... the injections (a sugar solution) irritates and in turn causes scar tissue hence strengthening everything... I will be needing a series of 4 done every month... I go to a surgical center where I get twilight.... I really do better after the first treatment so fingers and toes crossed.... LOL! Hope your son feels better.

I did ask the Pharmacist if the entire patch could be covered with the clear 3M tape and he told me NO.... so I went with waterproof medical tape around the edges.... it hard because of the curve in the neck... it causes the patch to buckle and come off contact with the skin.

What I did was... shave the back of my neck.... clean with alcohol.... dry area with hair dryer.... apply patch with waterproof medical tape around the edges..... so far so good.... I will remove the patch during physical activity.

Thank you... thank you... thank you all so much.... muh!

My Dr. prescribed me to wear the patch 24 hours...

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