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Chartreux
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   Posted 10/15/2009 7:58 AM (GMT -7)   
Anyone heard of injections in the cervical region being done with catheter?
EMG Showed pinched nerve at C 5 and C6 and some stuff at the C8 to T1
The EMG wasn't too bad didn't feel much on the left side but when she poked
me on the right sure hurt like heck never want that done again but might
need it for my lower back. So then my PM tells me I have cervical radiculopathy
and says he wants to try injections using a catheter now, heck he left me in
most of this pain from the last procedure RFA...so I'm really thinking of getting a new
pm doc, I'm scared of this, as I have a very skinny neck and worry about being left
paralized...I've had constant pins and needles feeling in my left arm since 20 August
2009 after he (PM Doc) did the (RFA) Radiofrequency ablation, so I have my doubts now...
He spent about 10 minutes with me and told me to think about it without any other
explanations, so ...plus my lower back is acting up with sharp stabs and I didn't
even get to ask him about that, geezee....but he did change my meds from oxycodone IR to
Norco 10/325.. the oxy was giving problems big time, I've been nauseated and think
it's from the pain.....
wow
sorry about the length of my posts..
mad
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Mrs. Dani
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   Posted 10/15/2009 8:05 AM (GMT -7)   
 
   Dear Chart,
 
      Are you talking about the little tubes the put into your spine for dye, numbing medicine and steroids? If so, that is how mine are done. They always go over a list I have to sign each time, like 3 pages, and states that as a risk on one of the pages, but I get the impression the "dye" used for the "pictures" is what my spine doctor uses to keep things as safe as possible.. Is that what you are talking about?
 
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jeffro74
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   Posted 10/15/2009 10:26 AM (GMT -7)   
That was one of the things I tried, RFA. It hurt to high heaven. "We are going to Fry your nerves, but it won't hurt real bad" Ha Ha what a lie! It hurts like crazy. The only catheter injections I had were epidurals (like a pregnant lady) for my low back. It took too much cortizone to inject all at once and had to be forced in, so they used a catheter.
Jeffro


Draka
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   Posted 10/15/2009 10:45 AM (GMT -7)   
Not sure what you mean by "catheter injections"

I've done cervical facet injections, three cervical epidurals and now am going on my second Prolotherapy next week.

Good grief I just about died with the EMG test... I thought it was horrid :(
Lisa
Slight reversal of the normal cervical curvature. Ther eis a 2mm antherolisthesis of C3 with respect to C4, a 2mm retrolisthesis of C5 with respect to C6 and a 2mm retrolisthesis of C6 with respect to C7
Degenerative changes present at multiple levels as follows:
C2-C3 osteophytes medial to the right intervertebral foramen and involving the right uncovertebral joint with minimal to moderate foraminal narrowing.
C3-C4 herniation fo the disc medial to the right intervertebral foramen and encroaching uponthe medial aspect fo teh foramen measuring approx. 2.5mm in the AP diameter. There is marked compression of the right nerve root sleeve. There are osteophytes involving the right uncoverterbral joint with moderate to foraminal stenosis. There is minimal anterolisthesis of C3 with respect to C4
C4-C5 herniation of the disc in the midline measuring approx. 2.5mm in the AP diameter woth minimal flattening to the ventral aspect of the cord. There are osteophytes involving the right uncovertebral joint with moderate foraminal narrowing
C5-C6 posterocentral herniation of the disc measuring approx. 3mm in the AP diameter with flattening of the ventral aspect of the cord. There are osteophytes involving the right uncovertebral joint woth moderate foraminal narrowing. There is minimal retrolistesis of C5 with respect to C6
C6-C7 minimal retrolisthesis of C6 with respect to C7. There is minimal diffuse bulging fo the annulus measuring approx. 2mm in the AP diameter. There are osteophytes involving the uncovertebral joint bilaterally with minimal bilateral foraminal narrowing.

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Chartreux
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   Posted 10/15/2009 2:48 PM (GMT -7)   
Dani, I'm not sure, but could be, all I know is he wants to put a catheter in and inject the steroids..

Jeff, I've had 2 RFA's done for my lower back with no problems, but on my C-spine, it made things worse...

Draka, The EMG didn't hurt much as my left arm is numb pins and needles, my lil kitten
will bite me there and I just don't feel it but on my right hand it did hurt some...

All, Thanks your the best! Lots of soft hugz to y'all..

sure wish they had more info on these catheter injections on the internet...I think they are power injections...

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I don't know when I'll get them, I'm kinda cash broke and need to see my Asthma doctor
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straydog
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   Posted 10/16/2009 1:18 AM (GMT -7)   
Chart I think if I were you I would get in with another PM dr or group. Ten minutes is wrong-those can be dangerous-not trying to scare you. At least get a 2nd opinion, those never hurt. Hugs.
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Mrs. Dani
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   Posted 10/16/2009 7:41 AM (GMT -7)   
 
   Dear Chart,
 
     Good morning! *huggs* How are you doing today? How is your neck feeling? I am doing okay here, just seem to be running on "empty" and super tired.
 
     So, if what I have done, is what your pm is talking about... Then yes, very small catheters are placed. I think there is alot of risk involved and that dye is also used to be sure the medicine is placed where it is supposed to go. I know it is some what dangerous, as I have to have "the risk talk" before every darn "series of injections" (as I call em) and also have to sign same darn papers. Every time. The "injection series" lasts abut 2.5 + months and I wait till the pain is no longer relieved by oral meds before I go in for another "series". It works out to about every 3 to 4 months... We arnt well off, and its rather costly due to size /amount.. so I wait as long as possible.
 
     I am kinda worried thou.. Only because, when you talk about your PM I always think to myself *why is he like this? What is wrong with him? * I guess, what I mean is... Alot of discussion and "learning"  was done long before we started down the "injection series" path. about 3 weeks of learning and discussion. I didnt really get the impression that they only did it with me either. I am almost positive they did this with everyone. I dont really understand why you arnt being treated better. I mean, you arnt asking for ruby slippers here.. your asking to be well informed and treated with same respect that any other patient deserves. Okay, sorry to go of on tangent there! I wish you had someone you could be comfortable with!!!
 
     I hope you can rest a little bit today! Thank goodness it is Friday!
 
*warm huggs*
    dani
 
    
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Chartreux
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   Posted 10/16/2009 8:21 PM (GMT -7)   
I'm so very sore and stiff, sure wish it would get better, thanks for asking Dani!
it's always sweet of you...and well I don't know about these injections...

Susie, yeah this last appointment even made my husband upset and he's usually very quiet..

Thing is right out of the Radiofrequency ablation, my neck was worse and they said that was normal
However, I didn't get better, which most people do after this procedure, so I think something happened
either right before, during or after this RFA procedure.(I couldn't even dress myself afterwards)..
So I'm kinda scared at this point, my psychologist thinks I should stay with this doctor and get them, but I think another doctor....

hugz and thank you...
it's always nice to hear from someone..
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Hope you both get a low pain day, soon..
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PAlady
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   Posted 10/16/2009 8:41 PM (GMT -7)   
Char,
I don't know anything about the catheter issue, but I do want to send you lots of hugs!

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Chartreux
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   Posted 10/17/2009 7:27 AM (GMT -7)   
Thanks PALady, Hugz do help...
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   Posted 10/18/2009 4:17 AM (GMT -7)   
Hi Chart, So sorry to hear about all the neck and back pain your having. I know about the pins & needles you are talking about, I hate them! I call it "ellectic shocks" it reminds me of electic passing through wires>{nerves} I had that feeling all down my left side before my fusion which stopped them on the left side. Now I have them running straight down my spine fron my neck to about the middle of my shoulers. They seem to "pulsate" with the pain in my neck, I mean as the pain gets worse, the electric shocks get worse too. As for your lower back, we are so similar with our pains you and I! I know when my neck is really bad, my back gets bad too. I think it's from all the tention and stifness caused by my neck affecting my back. Sound familiar? Geeze, I sure hope that your doc can fix you up! I don't know about the cath injections but from what Danni said, I'd check it out pretty good before going that direction. Maybe you should bet a second opinion especially since this guy is upsetting you and your husband!!!
I'm keeping you in my prayed my good friend!
Big Sunday Hugz coming your way!
Pete
When I was young, I broke almost evry bone in my body and I'm paying a heavy price now but I'm still here and so glad to see my two sons grow up to be fine young men. They are both serving in the US Navy, My oldest is serving on a aircraft carrier but is currently in advance radar school. The other is a Asault Ship "The Jaws of the Fleet" somewhere in the Persian Gulf w/ 2,000 Marines aboard. I am one very proud (what they call me)> Big Pops! 

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