Epidural injections and scar tissue

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uniquelyme
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   Posted 10/16/2009 1:44 PM (GMT -7)   
 
Hello....I haven't posted a new topic in a while...but something has been on my mind for a while.. I have been told that I really don't have many options left...as far as treatments go..I have already had Spinal Fusion, so any other operations are out the door..The last time I tried to have an epidural steroid injection was a couple of years ago..The Dr. said that he wouldn't try it anymore because of all the scar tissue...when he tried the last time he said it was like putting a needle through a block of wood... Believe me, that's what it felt like too.. So, here's my thought..
What about having surgery to remove the scar tissue?  Has anybody had that done?  I mean, I know that I'll be in pain for the rest of my life...but if there's a chance to make any kind of improvement....why not? 
 
I don't even know if it's possible..but I know that sitting around, taking pain meds, nand not having much of a life is the PITTS!!!  I can't remember if the injections even helped...I did have it done, along with a Caudil Block, years and years ago...before any surgeries...but I can't remember.....did they even help??
 
So, what's a girl to do?  I have Spinal Stenosis, DDD, permanent nerve damage in low back that causes pain in both legs...some neuropathy, and who knows what else.... The fusion was a waste of time and energy for me...and I regret having it done.  Because I have no options left as far as surgery goes....
 
Am I doomed?
 
Me.

I have been a spectator for so long..Now it's time to participate.......
 
Post Lamenectomy Syndrome, Spinal Stenosis, DDD....
1999 Hemi Lamenectomy/2005 Spinal Fusion(L4-S1)
Methadone 120 mg. a day/  30 mg. Oxycodone as needed(up to 4 x a day)
High Blood Pressure: Lisinopril HCTZ 10 mg. daily
Type 2 Diabetes: (March 16, 2009)
Metformin HCL ER 1000 mg. at night..Glipizide 10mg. 2X in the morning
Lantus 35 units at bedtime with Solostar Pen                                                                   

 


PAlady
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   Posted 10/16/2009 3:29 PM (GMT -7)   
Rhonda,
Well, possibly as "doomed" as many of us. And by that I mean having to accept a bite of life that we don't like and don't want to accept.

I don't know what to tell you about having scar tissue removed. I have scar tissue, and my neurosurgeon had wanted to do a more major surgery to remove it, but my thought was that more scar tissue would just form after the next surgery. To be honest, I sure wouldn't have an operation just to see if epidurals worked. Epidurals or any of the injections are at best temporary fixes. If you're lucky they'll ease the pain for several months or maybe a couple of years. If a nerve could be identified to do an RF procedure, that might be more worth it, but I would think if that had been an option it would have been considered before the fusion, but it's always worth another opinion.

I wish I had some better news for you. Heck, I wish I had better news for me. But there are always new medications and treatments being developed, or so I tell myself.

Hugs,

PaLady

uniquelyme
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   Posted 10/16/2009 5:59 PM (GMT -7)   
Hugs right back atcha....and thanks for the reply...I had thought the same thing..Why have surgery to remove scar tissue when the surgery would result in more scar tissue anyway...So, I guess I am still doomed.... At least I'm in good company...

Me.
I have been a spectator for so long..Now it's time to participate.......
 
Post Lamenectomy Syndrome, Spinal Stenosis, DDD....
1999 Hemi Lamenectomy/2005 Spinal Fusion(L4-S1)
Methadone 120 mg. a day/  30 mg. Oxycodone as needed(up to 4 x a day)
High Blood Pressure: Lisinopril HCTZ 10 mg. daily
Type 2 Diabetes: (March 16, 2009)
Metformin HCL ER 1000 mg. at night..Glipizide 10mg. 2X in the morning
Lantus 35 units at bedtime with Solostar Pen                                                                   

 


Tirzah
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   Posted 10/16/2009 9:12 PM (GMT -7)   
Rhonda,
I was told the same thing as PA. That having scar tissue removed can end up being a short term solution with more scar tissue forming not long after the surgery.

After a lot of research, I found a couple cosmetic surgeons who told me that if there weren't any nerves involved (which was my case & the possibility of neuromas forming was an added concern), the scar tissue was not very deep, I was willing to undergo multiple treatments & willing to accept that there was still a possibility that the result might end up being less than desirable, that they sometimes scar tissue can be removed with lasers.

From what I was told, it is super painful, takes 3-5 sessions & the outcome is not guaranteed, but if nothing else works, maybe it's worth looking into to see whether it might be an option for you.

I totally understand about just wanting to be rid of the painful scars. I ended up getting mine treated with special shots for keloid scars & then using topical steroid creams for a while, and then for long-term management I use topical NSAIDs (well, right now I am switching to a compounded gel, but once my hair grows back -- thyroid problems -- I will be back on the Voltaren). I'm not saying that's what would work for you, but I just want to encourage you that there are options out there. If the scar removal works, great. If that's not an option, hang in there -- there are other options besides getting shot after shot every week, at least in some cases. :)

have a happy weekend,
frances
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