My Fingers Have Been Going Numb

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skrape
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   Posted 11/6/2009 7:05 PM (GMT -7)   
Has anyone else on here had chronic back pain as well as numbness in the fingers on one or both hands? More and more often, I have been losing most or all of the sensation in my fingers on my right or, more often, both hands at once. This started happening as far back as the fourth of July but has been happening now every night. It seems to hit me right around 8:00pm every night now no matter what I happen to be doing. Almost nothing I do can bring the feeling back into my hands. After an hour or two, the feeling usually comes back as if it were never gone. There isn't really much pain involved, just really, really numb on all my fingers.

If anyone knows anything about these symptoms, please shoot me a reply back. I am getting worried that maybe my chronic back pain and this are related and due to a more general nerve issue. *shrug


Skrape
Pain:
Oxycontin - 80mg x 8 hours
Vicodin - 5/500mg x 1 every 6 hours (as needed)

Sleep:
Amitriptyline (Elavil) - 25mg x 1 to 2 at bedtime
Zolpidem Tartrate (Ambien) - 10mg x 1 at bedtime

Heart/Cholesterol:
Atenolol - 50mg x 1 a day (lunchtime)
Crestor - 10mg x 1 a day (lunchtime)
Niaspan - 500mg x 1 every 12 hours
Trilipix DR - 135mg x 1 a day (lunchtime)


Screaming Eagle
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   Posted 11/6/2009 7:46 PM (GMT -7)   
Skrape,...yes I have had this several times, and my Dr said it is tied to the problems in my neck. Mine comes and goes, and the middle finger on my right hand seem the be the numbest one affected. If you only have lower back problems, I would doubt that it is caused from it. Generaly problems in the neck affect the arms and the hands. As always, you need to check it out with you PCD. Let us know what you find out, or if you have any more questions of me, just ask, and I will answer back as soon as possible. It can be very unnerveing for this to happen.

privey
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   Posted 11/6/2009 7:50 PM (GMT -7)   
Skrape
I agree with Screaming and another thing is Carpal Tunnel for a repetitive motion. I've had neck surgery and it helped with the numbing but sometimes I have a numb sensation but nothing like it was before.

Cathy

edt
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   Posted 11/6/2009 7:50 PM (GMT -7)   

Skrape,

I speak from my own personal experience!  Numbness in the fingers usually is coming from the neck.  Even though the fusion surgery fixed the ruptures, I still have numbness in the fingers off and on. 

I agree with Screaming Eagle, please get checked!

XXOO
Patti


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   Posted 11/6/2009 9:13 PM (GMT -7)   
Skrape,
You've been given some good advice already. Just thought I'd share my experience when I had numb fingers about 15 years ago. I also had chronic neck problems, and was convinced my neck was causing the numbness, although my hand surgeon kept telling me carpal tunnel surgery would fix it. Well, EMG's showed I had severe carpal tunnel on right hand, and moderate on the left. After nothing else would fix it I finally had carpal tunnel surgery on my right hand back in 1994, and the numbness went away immediately. Course I was also having pain, too, and that went away. Had my left hand done in 2004. But even though my fingers are no longer numb, I still have problems with my neck!

It's definitely worth checking out all angles.

Good luck.

PaLady

Gretchen1
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   Posted 11/6/2009 9:13 PM (GMT -7)   
My fingers go numb.  My left hand has pretty much permanent numbness in it.  Obviously for me it is CNS damage. 
 
I just thought I would show my support.  Please take good care.  I hope you get some answers and relief soon.
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Blessedx8
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   Posted 11/6/2009 10:47 PM (GMT -7)   
Skrape... Seems like lots of us have similar symptoms! I agree w/ looking at the carpal tunnel angle - I have severe CTS in both hands and pretty much have numbness in my hands at all times. It can range from being painful to just super annoying. I also have issues w/ my neck and thoracic region of my back....so it's hard to tell which is causing which....

Anyway, I hope you get it checked out... let us know what you find out... --Tina
Pain Issues: Neck/back pain; migraines; carpal tunnel syndrome; widespread joint/muscle pain, nerve pain in hands, arms, feet; I also have POTS/dysautonomia; CFS/Fibromyalgia; Severe Hypertension; Hypothyroidism; Addison's Disease; Central Sleep Apnea; etc etc

Meds: MS Contin (480mg daily); Dilaudid (8mg/3x day); Actiq (1200 mcgs/1x per day); Soma (3x day); Atenolol; Midodrine; Phenergan; Effexor and on the list goes...

Future Plans: Intrathecal Pain Pump; already completed trial; awaiting my decision for implantation


straydog
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   Posted 11/6/2009 11:18 PM (GMT -7)   
Hi Skrape looks like everyone threw some good possibilities at you. The way the dermatone pattern works is numbness in fingers can come from the cervical area, not from a low back injury. When the lumbar spine is involved you can have pain down the leg to the foot or toes, or pain to the buttocks area, or what they call the lower extremities.

You realy need to go see your dr and let him check you out for possible neck problems and CT syndrome as well.
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White Beard
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   Posted 11/6/2009 11:52 PM (GMT -7)   
SKrape
Everyone has been right on about what they told you! May I ask what fingers are giving you the problems? Is it just one finger or tow or three or all of them including the thumb? Is it the outside fingers or the inside fingers closest to the thumb? Are your fingers completely numb or do you also have tingling in them? Any burning sensation of feeling hot? Make sure you note any and all of these symptoms and write them down so you can let your Doctor know! You doctor might want to do EMG testing and Nerve conduction test on your arms these test can show if the problem is from the cervical disk in your nck or from CT in your hands, Anyway you might want to keep a journal of when it happens and what you are doing when it happens, how long it last and what if anything you do to make it better or go away! This is all important information that can help your Doctor make a diagnosis!
Good Luck to you SKrape, I wish you well!

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Screaming Eagle
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   Posted 11/7/2009 9:55 AM (GMT -7)   
WOW! White Beard, you are shining this morning! Excellant coverage on the questions! :) I'm going to start calling you Dr White! :)

skrape
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   Posted 11/7/2009 3:38 PM (GMT -7)   
When this happens, it doesn't seem to matter what I am doing. A few times I woke up from a nap on the couch and they went numb shortly after. My wife was telling me I probably slept on them in a bad position but they were not numb when I woke up as a numb limb would usually be if you cut off the blood flow while sleeping on it. It seems to happen just as often when I haven't taken a nap. I can just be sitting here watching TV, working on the PC, etc. It doesn't seem to correlate to any activity. It almost always happens in the late evening. I do work on a computer all day so I wouldn't be surprised if it was CPS but I have never had problems before and it came on so strong, so suddenly.

Every time I wake up from a nap and end of with my fingers being numb, I am super, super cold and am shaking uncontrollably from being so cold. I do have tremors a lot of the time (been checked out repeatedly and no one seems to know why) but these are so violent, it is scary.

Again, wanted to mention that it is usually in both hands and each are equally numb. All of my fingers are pretty numb but it seems like my pinkies and the fingers beside them are the least numb. Last time I shook my hands downward for about 5 minutes and it seemed to help speed things up but that may have just been in my head...

I do have pain in my neck on the left side. This pain is a sharp, hot stabbing pain that I get only after working (maybe stressful) most of the day. When it starts in, moving my neck in a certain way or opening my mouth wide (while trying to eat) will cause a vary sharp, burning, acute pain in my neck and it will shoot down into my left shoulder. This is painful enough to take my breath away. I do always have low back pain but I also have mid back pain that is always there to an extent but the severity fluctuates depending on what I am doing and how long I have been doing it. Staying benf over for any length of time is killer on my mid back pain. I am not sure if the mid back pain or the sharp, burning neck pain has anything to do with my fingers going numb since they do not seems to happen or get worse concurrently.

Anyway, thanks for all the helpful answers.


Skrape
Pain:
Oxycontin - 80mg x 8 hours
Vicodin - 5/500mg x 1 every 6 hours (as needed)

Sleep:
Amitriptyline (Elavil) - 25mg x 1 to 2 at bedtime
Zolpidem Tartrate (Ambien) - 10mg x 1 at bedtime

Heart/Cholesterol:
Atenolol - 50mg x 1 a day (lunchtime)
Crestor - 10mg x 1 a day (lunchtime)
Niaspan - 500mg x 1 every 12 hours
Trilipix DR - 135mg x 1 a day (lunchtime)


Chartreux
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   Posted 11/7/2009 3:59 PM (GMT -7)   
Skrape,
sounds like time for either EMG testing or getting some contrast neck MRI"s...Lets not
speculate on this and please just get into your doctor..Hope this info helps and it's meant in a nice ways...
We care about ya Skrape and ya have us very very worried...Hope you get a low pain day soon...
Lots of soft hugz and keep us posted...
You'll need to be off the muscle relaxer fora week to get a good EMG test, That's the hard part.
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Blessedx8
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   Posted 11/7/2009 4:31 PM (GMT -7)   
When I first went in with my hands so numb/tingling...before my EMG...the doctor performed something called a "Phalen's Test". This is nothing definitive...but it "can" show if you have signs of carpal tunnel syndrome and the severity of it.... It's nothing major so you might give it a try:

Basically....let's see if I can describe this....w/ your hand's in front of you, bend your hands downwards at the wrist and push your hands together (back to back). Stay in this position for one minute. A positive test is if, in that one minute, you get numbness/tingling/etc. The sooner that these symptoms begin, a doctor can "guess" at the severity of the nerve damage. For instance, when I do that position w/ my hands, my symptoms begin within 10 seconds!

Anyway, as you all know, I'm not a doctor; this test isn't completely accurate; but it is harmless and something that might give an indicator that it's more a carpal tunnel issues than neck, etc. Also, CTS usually affects the fingers closer to the thumb more severely... But, again, call your doc, Skrape!

Take good care...Tina
Pain Issues: Neck/back pain; migraines; carpal tunnel syndrome; widespread joint/muscle pain, nerve pain in hands, arms, feet; I also have POTS/dysautonomia; CFS/Fibromyalgia; Severe Hypertension; Hypothyroidism; Addison's Disease; Central Sleep Apnea; etc etc

Meds: MS Contin (480mg daily); Dilaudid (8mg/3x day); Actiq (1200 mcgs/1x per day); Soma (3x day); Atenolol; Midodrine; Phenergan; Effexor and on the list goes...

Future Plans: Intrathecal Pain Pump; already completed trial; awaiting my decision for implantation


skrape
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   Posted 11/8/2009 5:58 PM (GMT -7)   
Relief,

I wanted to make sure I posted a reply to make sure you knew I didn't take your post negatively or anything like that. I have always been a rather smallish person (in height as well as weight); I stand at 5'6" and fluctuate between 140lbs to 145lbs. I haven't had any recent weight gain at all really. I did weigh about 120lbs before I hurt my back and have gained the extra since then. This is because I live an almost sedentary lifestyle now. Even though I did gain weight after my injury, I haven't put on much weight at all recently. I have been told by my doc that my condition is all the more mystifying since I am not at all obese in any way.

I know that weight gain can be a symptom of a lot of things (diabetes, etc.) so maybe the weight gain could be for a medical reason? Not trying to pry or anything like that but your post did make me wonder...


Skrape
Pain:
Oxycontin - 80mg x 8 hours
Vicodin - 5/500mg x 1 every 6 hours (as needed)

Sleep:
Amitriptyline (Elavil) - 25mg x 1 to 2 at bedtime
Zolpidem Tartrate (Ambien) - 10mg x 1 at bedtime

Heart/Cholesterol:
Atenolol - 50mg x 1 a day (lunchtime)
Crestor - 10mg x 1 a day (lunchtime)
Niaspan - 500mg x 1 every 12 hours
Trilipix DR - 135mg x 1 a day (lunchtime)


golitho
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   Posted 11/8/2009 8:48 PM (GMT -7)   
Hi Skrape, I haven't read all the replies but this sounds like me. I had a nerve conduction study done to identify if it was from carpel tunnel or my neck, I don't know how but linking you up to the electric impulses they can tell where its originating. It was totally painless and they know instantly where the numbness is coming from. I had splints meade which helped the numbness at night by keeping my wrists straight, mine is carpel tunnel from RA.
Goodluck with it but I'd get the nerve conduction test done so you know for sure, golitho
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