Catheter Injections 2 (Racz Method)

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Chartreux
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   Posted 12/1/2009 7:17 PM (GMT -7)   
Okay, so today after waiting 3 hrs to see my PM Doctor, we went over his next procedure
which is going to be Catheter Injections using the Racz Method, but not as impatient,
will be outpatient and I'll have the catheter in for a few days with time released steroids
with the hopes it floods the spinal canal at the correct locations and for the procedure it's
about an hour and since I have some sensitivity to steroids I'll have to pre-med with benadryl...and
this all will take place next Wednesday 9th of December, this is supposed to work better
than the regular steroid injections...kinda seems like this is a mini trial pain pump,
except it uses steroids...I guess I'll need to buy a pair of sweat pants for this, I'm
not very fond of sweat pants...I'll be very loopy next wednesday with all the benadryl and stuff..
Hope y'all have pain free days..
My eye's are doing okay for now and the steroid eye drops have been reduce to twice a day, I'll
see the eye doctor again next week as he's keeping close tabs on these eye drops, they sure do make
my eye's itch...
hugz
and Skeye posts on yourself okay, hope your making it thru this semster, prayers to ya..... yeah
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Piercings
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   Posted 12/1/2009 8:44 PM (GMT -7)   
Sounds scary. As it is I about wanted to jump off the table the first time that they did injections. After that I chose sedation for each one. I'll keep my fingers crossed for you that this will help and give some relief. Anything that helps is usually a blessing.
Curious people are interesting people...I wonder why that is.
~Bill Maher


bluejet2
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   Posted 12/1/2009 10:24 PM (GMT -7)   
Hi Char:

I had 6 epidural steroid injections done through a Racz cathetar. I was told that because I have such a good fusion, there was no way for my doctor to stick the needle straight into my back and get to the area where my pain was originating from. The Racz method is where they go up through your tailbone, through the epidural space until they reach the level of your spine where they want to put the steroids.

I was given an local anesthetic, but it was kind of like too little, too late - he would start the procedure, I would scream, he would give me some local anesthetic, which would numb the area where he was. He would advance the needle, I would scream, he would give me more local, and so on and so on. I was getting the local after each jolt of pain, and it only worked where he was at the time, so as soon as he advanced the needle, we were out of the area that he had just anesthetized. I don't want to say anything to scare you, so I will keep my comments to myself, but it was not fun.

I allowed my doctor to do this 6 times. I had a series of 3, and then when I would have a bad run of pain, out of desperation, I asked him to do one on me 3 other times. The most relief I got from any of them was 3 days, but I know many people get great relief that lasts up to several months.

My biggest suggestion would be to demand to be sedated. My doctor did not offer sedation, and it is definitely not something I would recommend having done without it. When I think back on it, I can't believe I let him do it to me 6 times with nothing, it was out of sheer desperation for some relief.

I will be thinking of you and praying that these injections give you some great, long-term relief from your pain!

Lorie

straydog
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   Posted 12/1/2009 10:31 PM (GMT -7)   
Char I hope this brings you some badly needed relief. I would think about what Bluejet said about being put out for this tho. I know sometimes we do become so desperate that we will agree to things that other may shun or even think we are crazy for trying. Take care.


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mrsm123
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   Posted 12/1/2009 11:12 PM (GMT -7)   
I hope this turns out to give you a good amount of pain relief but please, watch the amount of steriods being used, and where they are putting it. You don't want to wind up like I am right now Chartreux.....
Sandi
PLIF/TLIF Fusion w/Instrumentation L4-5 Spondololysthesis L4-5.Laminectomies L4-5, foraminal stenosis L3-4, L4-5, L5-S1, herniations L3-4, L4-5, L5-S1, central canal stenosis L3-4, L4-5 and L5-S1
POST OP CES 3/30-06
Neurogenic Bladder and Bowel, bilateral numbness legs and feet
Revision for failed Back surgery, pseudoarthrosis L4-5, hemilaminectomies L3-4, L4-5, L5-S1, bmp added to revision fusion, replaced two bent screws that were reversing out of vertebrae - August 2, 2007
On going back pain and neuropathic pain, failed back surgery, consult for scs, decided not to do that at this point.
Adhesive Arachnoiditis also......just what I didn't need..9/08- adding bilateral ulnar neuropathy with severe compression to the mix. They want me to see a surgeon for ulnar nerve surgery, but I'm not biting.
I've seen enough surgeons over the last few years.
Avascular necrosis of left wrist- maybe hips too


PAlady
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   Posted 12/1/2009 11:13 PM (GMT -7)   
Char,
I didn't know what this procedure was until Lorie explained it, and I would agree with her, even though I've never had it, I would want sedation for this if it was at all possible.

I do hope it helps you. Please let us know, but in the meantime we'll be sending you loads of hugs!

(((((((((((Chartreux)))))))))))))

PaLady

bsjaguar
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   Posted 12/2/2009 5:48 AM (GMT -7)   
Chart, you sound like me with the sweat pants. I had to wear them after my fusion surgery. I only bought 1 pair and borrowed the rest. The one pair I bought are now my painting pants.

I don't know anything about the procedure your having but it does sound rather scary. Get lots of info before doing it. I do hope you get some longer term pain relief from it. Will be thinking of you on the 9th.
---Jag---
 
DDD, osteoarthritis, fusion surgeries C-5/7 & L-4/5 both in 2006, torn meniscus left knee 2000 & 2002, buldging disc L-2/3


Screaming Eagle
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   Posted 12/2/2009 7:49 AM (GMT -7)   
    I have to agree with bluejet and Lady...by all means get the sedation if they offer it. I have never heard of this type of injection where they leave in the chath for a few days....interesting to say the least. Chart...my heart goes out to you...and my best wishes also.

Chartreux
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   Posted 12/2/2009 2:14 PM (GMT -7)   
Oh yeah, I'll be sedated or I'll be kicking down the place, I've had 8 facet 2 nerve blocks injections done by quack doc #1 without
any sedation and I still remember screaming and them holding me down pretty hard, even with those table straps, never again
went back to that doctor, I wanted to sue his ...(well ya know the place)...Hopefully these will flood the spinal canal and work...
Thanks for all your kindness...
Hope y'all get some low pain days
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Chartreux
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   Posted 12/2/2009 9:32 PM (GMT -7)   
With the cold weather coming in I'm achey in every joint and having fibro flair of costochondrotist (costo)
Hope everyone is having a low pain day...
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* Asthma, Allergies, Osteoarthritis, Spinal Stenosis, Degenative Disc (Lower Lumbar S1-L3 and Cervical C5,C6, C8 and T1), Fibromyalgia, Gerd,
Enlarged Pituitary Gland, Sjogren's, Ocular Migraines, mild carpel tunnel, ect.... "Would be nice if we could use the edit button in real life"...

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Chartreux
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   Posted 12/8/2009 8:15 AM (GMT -7)   
Well, my appointment for these is at 1:15 p.m. tomorrow, wish me luck, I'm kinda happy and
kinda scared, as I hope this works...
hugz
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Enlarged Pituitary Gland, Sjogren's, Ocular Migraines, mild carpel tunnel, ect.... "Would be nice if we could use the edit button in real life"...

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bsjaguar
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   Posted 12/8/2009 8:46 AM (GMT -7)   
Good Luck, Chart!!! I'll keep my fingers crossed today and hope everything goes as planned for the doc & you.
---Jag---
 
DDD, osteoarthritis, fusion surgeries C-5/7 & L-4/5 both in 2006, torn meniscus left knee 2000 & 2002, buldging disc L-2/3


tmjpain
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   Posted 12/8/2009 9:58 AM (GMT -7)   
Good luck to you for tomorrow. Hope it goes well for you and that you get the relief you are looking for.

Suzane

tmjpain
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   Posted 12/8/2009 9:59 AM (GMT -7)   
Good luck to you for tomorrow. Hope it goes well for you and that you get the relief you are looking for.

Suzane

PAlady
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   Posted 12/8/2009 10:50 AM (GMT -7)   
Sending hugs to you, Char, and we'll be waiting to hear how it goes!

(((((((((Chartreux)))))))))

PaLady

melliflious
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   Posted 12/8/2009 12:40 PM (GMT -7)   
Best of luck, I'll be sending good thoughts your way!

Jenna
Pain Issue: Sub-scapular bursitis, scapular dyskinesia, nerve damage down left arm, shoulder and neck
Treatment: PT, Tens Unit, Oxycodone, Diazepan, Hydrocodone-APAP, Tramadol, Voltaren/Duac gel

Also random hearing loss in both ears at age 18ish, not sure exactly when it happened or why. Got amazing Oticon hearing aids at 20, they've worked wonders! Keep hoping that my doctors can connect my ears to my shoulder and fix them both all at once!! A girl can dream, right?


bluejet2
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   Posted 12/8/2009 12:52 PM (GMT -7)   
I hope all goes well tomorrow!

Lorie

Chartreux
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   Posted 12/9/2009 9:05 PM (GMT -7)   
Well, I'm home and plenty sore...right before they wheel me for the procedure and as they injected with
the versed, I had a mild asthma coughing flair, but luckily they we're giving me benadryl with the versed,
and the asthma only lasted a couple of minutes...
I wanted to say Thanks so much for the well wishes they we're and are very appreciated..
I'll type more later as I'm so very sore and I've been applying the ice..
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and heartfelt Thanks....
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Screaming Eagle
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   Posted 12/9/2009 10:27 PM (GMT -7)   
Good evening Chartzy! I'm glad to see that you made it home. How soon before you will tell a difference? I sure hope this will give you some relief! Please keep us posted when you feel up to it. Your buddy.....Michael

PAlady
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   Posted 12/9/2009 10:54 PM (GMT -7)   
Char,
Glad you're back home, and I hope you get some relief. Looks like you're taking it easy and taking care of yourself, which is just as it should be!

Hugs,

PaLady

Chartreux
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   Posted 12/10/2009 10:39 AM (GMT -7)   
I'll go in next week and try to figure out what is causing these asthma flairs, when I go for procedures..
I don't know if it was due to the room being cold, or my being scared...it lasted for about 4 minutes and it's pretty embarassing and all, I hope my PM Doctor won't drop me now for having this asthma flair....
Muscle spasms are under control for now but back is still too sore to tell yet how well the injection have helped...I'm still so very tired...
HUGZ to all...TY Michael and PAlady...
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* Asthma, Allergies, Osteoarthritis, Spinal Stenosis, Degenative Disc (Lower Lumbar S1-L3 and Cervical C5,C6, C8 and T1), Fibromyalgia, Gerd,
Enlarged Pituitary Gland, Sjogren's, Ocular Migraines, mild carpel tunnel, ect.... "Would be nice if we could use the edit button in real life"...

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tmjpain
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   Posted 12/10/2009 11:33 AM (GMT -7)   
Keep resting as much as you can. I hope you get the relief you are looking for. Perhaps the asthma attack was from anxiety about the procedure. Take care of yourself. Hugs to you.

Suzane

skeye
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   Posted 12/10/2009 12:32 PM (GMT -7)   
(((((((((((Char)))))))))))). I'm glad you made it through the procedure okay. I hope it helps!!

big hugs,
skeye

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   Posted 12/11/2009 5:00 AM (GMT -7)   
>>>CHART<<<!!!
So sorry I missed all your posts on your procedure! I really hope it helps you!! It sounds like it was wild ride!! I think Suzane is right about having anxiety over having these injections is causing the asthma and I'm sure the Doc will not drop you! It's not your fault and you shouldn't be embarrast about it!!!!!



Please stay warm and get lots of rest!!! Don't be "pulling any Pete's" !!!!! I'm sure that it will take a while for all the inflamation to settle down before you get relief from the meds they put in you so be careful not to agravate anything in there.



Please know I'm thinking a praying for you that this procedure was worth it and will help you!!!

Your Friend,

Pete
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