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Screaming Eagle
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   Posted 12/14/2009 3:09 PM (GMT -7)   
Just a quick note to let all my friends know that I'm back from getting the Epidural. It was rough...and I will post later when I get to feeling better. I have much to tell you all.

Michael

Post Edited (Screaming Eagle) : 12/14/2009 8:17:15 PM (GMT-7)


Mrs. Dani
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   Posted 12/14/2009 4:17 PM (GMT -7)   
 
  Michael,
 
     I am so sorry this round was hard for you. Try to rest as much as possible.
 
*huggs*
   dani

 

 

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And sorry I could not travel both
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Tony McGuire
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   Posted 12/14/2009 6:40 PM (GMT -7)   
See how that works out?

melliflious
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   Posted 12/14/2009 6:50 PM (GMT -7)   
Michael,

Sorry that things were so rough. I hope you bounce back quickly, and that the epidural gives you some relief!

Jenna
Pain Issue: Sub-scapular bursitis, scapular dyskinesia, nerve damage down left arm, shoulder and neck
Treatment: PT, Tens Unit, Oxycodone, Diazepan, Hydrocodone-APAP, Tramadol, Voltaren/Duac gel

Also random hearing loss in both ears at age 18ish, not sure exactly when it happened or why. Got amazing Oticon hearing aids at 20, they've worked wonders! Keep hoping that my doctors can connect my ears to my shoulder and fix them both all at once!! A girl can dream, right?


privey
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   Posted 12/14/2009 6:59 PM (GMT -7)   
Michael,
Hope you feel better soon and that the injection does its job and works well for you.

skeye
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   Posted 12/14/2009 8:04 PM (GMT -7)   
(((((((((((Michael)))))))))))

skeye

Screaming Eagle
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   Posted 12/14/2009 8:14 PM (GMT -7)   
Hello....Thank you for the replies....and I will post one tomorrow, after I get a good nights rest. I now have lots to think about, after visiting with the PM who did my Epidural...the good news is he offered to continue my treatment as my PM from here on out, and I did not expect that at all. I was impressed to a point, but the pain I went through was uncalled for. I will give more information tomorrow..as I have many questions now..and would like to here from those who have good advice to give me. Nite!

bluejet2
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   Posted 12/14/2009 10:51 PM (GMT -7)   
Hi Michael:

I'm sorry the procedure was a rough one - ice the area as much as possible. I hope you are able to get some rest tonight!

Lorie

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   Posted 12/15/2009 6:06 AM (GMT -7)   
Mikey!!
Big tough guy like you, I'm sure you were fine! Just think about how well those shots will do you once the swelling goes down!!!
Hang it there, it will feel better soon!!!
Your bro in pain,
Pete

Screaming Eagle
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   Posted 12/15/2009 7:38 AM (GMT -7)   
    Petey Boy!...and all, I'm working on the reply at the moment...and will post it as soon as I get done with it...just need a little more time to get it done...struggling a little today here...doing the best I can. Yesterday was interesting to say the least for me. Back in a few! Has anyone heard from Jag yet? I was wondering how he did with his Epidural too?

Chartreux
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   Posted 12/15/2009 7:52 AM (GMT -7)   
Screaming Sure hope your feeling better soon, I had my injections last week and I'm still sore (back) and my arm is bruised in two place from them trying to place the IV..but I'd never do these without sedation...as I had them once and only once, by a bad doctor without any sedation, lets just say I remember "Screaming"...and had nightmares...but sure hope your getting a little relief...
Lots of soft healing hugz being sent your ways...
(((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((Michael)))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))
hugz and post when you can...
I had computer problems and couldn't post yesterday sorry.....
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tmjpain
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   Posted 12/15/2009 8:13 AM (GMT -7)   
Sure hope you're doing ok Michael. Thinking of you my friend.

Suzane

bsjaguar
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   Posted 12/15/2009 1:44 PM (GMT -7)   
Feeling better Michael?
---Jag---
 
DDD, osteoarthritis, fusion surgeries C-5/7 & L-4/5 both in 2006, torn meniscus left knee 2000 & 2002, buldging disc L-2/3


FunnyGurl
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   Posted 12/15/2009 3:55 PM (GMT -7)   

Heh Michael

I guess it did not go so well or it was difficult.  I hope there is some long lasting relief from your epi. 

Hope all is well.

Rhonda


Humour is always the Best Medicine!
 
Fibromyalgia, DDD, 2 herniated Lumbar discs, OsteoArthritis Lumbar, Migraine, Dysthmic Disorder, Anxiey, Panic Attacks, OsteoArthritis Knee, Carpal Tunnel both hands, Currently Double Depression


Screaming Eagle
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   Posted 12/15/2009 6:18 PM (GMT -7)   
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Sorry this is so late, but I have had a rough couple of days now. Yesterday I went to get my Epidural in my neck, and that was the most painful thing I have been through with the exception of my Heart Attack that I had in 2002. To start with I was impressed with the Dr. that we saw yesterday, as he did a thorough exanimation of me, with respect to my neck pain. One of the first things that he told me was that he was willing to take over my pain management program. I was floored to hear this, as I have had a terrible time finding one here in this area, and then now, one seems to fall in my lap! Wahoo! I was under the impression that all they did were injections, since it was part of the local hospital campus. During his examination of me he located a muscle that was in constant spasm, and said he really did not think my pain was coming from my neck. It is at the base of my neck, right at the top of my shoulder blade. He suggested injections for it. I need to let you know that when they called for the appointment, I asked if they sedated! The nurse said he almost never does that, and immediately I had a fear come over me. I asked again when we got there to check in and fill out all the forms. Again, they said it is a very rare occasion that he would do so. Well when the Dr came in, he brought it up on his own, since the nurses had told him I was asking about it. He said that he preferred not to use it. He said the local would be enough, so I thought it would be ok with his assurance. WRONG! WRONG! WRONG! I should have known better than to agree to this, with my past history with pain and all. Well they started, and Im hear to tell you that it was unbearable; all the while they kept telling me that it was going to get better. WRONG! WRONG! WRONG! It got worse, way worse! After they hit the space that was the magic spot they kept talking about, they said that all I should feel was pressure. WRONG! WRONG! WRONG! The pain got worse as they injected the Steroids. My shoulders were killing me to the point I was screaming out in pain and bawling. My wife was in the room with me, covered up with a lead blanket they provided, so she could stay and watch. Deborah had never seen me in this kind of pain before and it brought tears to her eyes too. I can tell you that I started swearing at the Dr, and that he should have listened to me in the first place. It was not a pretty thing to hear, and not like me at all! I was so mad about it! The Dr kept apologizing to my wife and I over and over, and said he had never had a patient have that kind of a reaction. He assured me that the next time they would be giving me a sedative. After it was over with, he showed us the scope and how the dye had a good flare in the right area. I had to lie there for 20min before I could get up. When I left to go home, I swear I looked like I was 150 years old. I could hardly walk and could not lift my head up. I have never been through anything like that before.


This has two parts to it, so I will break the page here and post the rest in a bit. Sorry for the length, but I have much more to say, and I want some of the veteran members to tell me what they think when they hear the rest of it.

Post Edited (Screaming Eagle) : 12/15/2009 6:27:18 PM (GMT-7)


skeye
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   Posted 12/15/2009 8:08 PM (GMT -7)   
I know you're not done with your story, but I just have to say:

Wow! I'm sorry you had to go through that! It sounds awful! I'm pretty surprised that they didn't offer you sedation, especially since it was done at a hospital. Last year, among other nerve blocks I tried, I had 3 stellate ganglion nerve blocks done. The stellate ganglion is located at about C7 just in front of the spinal column, so they had to use fluroscopy. They injected through the front of my neck & the needle was so long, because they had to go most of the way through the neck. I had light sedation & it was done in an OR at a surgical center. I can't imagine having it done without sedation! I still felt it for sure, but it was tolerable; however, I think it would have been a whole lot different without the sedation. The difference in tension alone probably would have made a huge difference!! Ouch... The doctor should have made an exception for you. You were really clear about your wishes & you had good reason for why you wanted what you wanted. Just tell the doc "next time you're the one getting the epidural without sedation!"

I hope you're feeling better today!

hugs,
Skeye

Chartreux
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   Posted 12/15/2009 9:34 PM (GMT -7)   
Oh Geezee, so very sorry they did that to you Michael...it really hurts in the neck area and wwell if you had moved,,geezee..
Sure hope your icing the area over and that you'll feel better soon...lots and lots of soft healing hugz...at least it was only one injection...you might want to consider another Doctor,...
((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((Michael))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))
hugz
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Enlarged Pituitary Gland, Sjogren's, Ocular Migraines, mild carpel tunnel, ect.... "Would be nice if we could use the edit button in real life"...

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   Posted 12/15/2009 10:45 PM (GMT -7)   
And you intend on doing this again!!!! What you went thru was totally uncalled for and the dr should not have continued to proceed if you were having this kind of a problem. I am not sure I would want this one as my dr. Not listening to the patient is not a very good sign. I am sorry this happened.
 

crohns disease dx 2002 & small bowel resection, still looking for remission whatever that is, chronic pain 22 yrs, added ulcerative colitis 6-05 to the mix, high blood pressure 28 yrs, aortic heart valve insuffiency, depression, osteoarthritis, osteoporosis lumbar spine, scoliosis lumbar spine, peripheral neuropathy hands & feet, COPD & on oxygen therapy, lupus & psoriasis and psoratic arthritis. Several other health issues just not enough room to list it all. Too many surgeries to list and too many medications to list. Currently on 17 different daily medications. Intrathecal pain pump implanted June 05.


bsjaguar
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   Posted 12/16/2009 4:24 AM (GMT -7)   
Hope your feeling better today Michael!
---Jag---
 
DDD, osteoarthritis, fusion surgeries C-5/7 & L-4/5 both in 2006, torn meniscus left knee 2000 & 2002, buldging disc L-2/3


Mrs. Dani
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   Posted 12/16/2009 11:46 AM (GMT -7)   
 
 
   Oh my goodness Michael!!!
 
     I get sedation for my injection series every time. I dont think it is just because I have some many done at the same time eithr. I met a man who gets one in his knee every four months and even he gets sedation. Im telling you I still remember crying and nurses rubbing my arms, telling me it is okay. The memories are like a weird dream, but I know that I remember burning pain at beginning of each "site". I always remember the nurses comforting me. When it is all done I always have "eye crusties" and I can tell I was crying. I just cant imagine enduring through ANY of the process witihout sedation. The "medicine" burns as it gets realeased through the tubes in the spine and even though it is all ilke a dream I know I cry and have to be reminded with my "bio feedback" trigger "phrase" under sedation. Gosh Im so upset they did this to you. I know the doctor apologized but oh my gosh darned goodness!!!! You should have never been put in a position like that! The medicine BURNS when it is released into the tubes!!! Grrr. Im so glad you wife was with you, but I just cannot imagine the feeling helplessness she must have experienced. I sure hope she is okay. It must have been awfull for her too. I wish I could do something to help! Try to reax as much as possible and dont worry too much about completing your post. We dont mind waiting, we just want to know your okay and relaxing as much as possible.
 
*warm huggs*
   dani

 

 

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And sorry I could not travel both
And be one traveler, long I stood

 

 


FunnyGurl
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   Posted 12/16/2009 1:55 PM (GMT -7)   

Sorry you had so much pain with your injections.  I guess the Doc should have listened to you.  At least you taught him a lesson.

What type of sedation do you use in this case?

I just had fluoroscopic bilateral steroid injections in the L5 and it hurt so bad it made me cry and was barely able to speak I was in so much pain.  So I may have a bit of any idea what you have gone thru lately.  I at least hope this treatment is working for you?  Mine did for about a week or two.  Starting to have more of the nerve pain coming back to legs since Saturday. 

Sometimes I wonder if all these treatments are worth it at all?

Be well!

 


Humour is always the Best Medicine!
 
Fibromyalgia, DDD, 2 herniated Lumbar discs, OsteoArthritis Lumbar, Migraine, Dysthmic Disorder, Anxiey, Panic Attacks, OsteoArthritis Knee, Carpal Tunnel both hands, Currently Double Depression


Screaming Eagle
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   Posted 12/16/2009 3:27 PM (GMT -7)   
Hello, Funny! I just had a local...not sure what is in it....and it did work some...but not near enough for me. Sounds like you had the same Dr! :)
I will post more later, but time is of the essence for me right now....meetings with the sale of the business...and Holiday stuff to do too.

Mrs. Dani
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   Posted 12/16/2009 9:28 PM (GMT -7)   
 
   Dear Michael,
 
     here is the recipe you asked for ~~>
 
     2 cups sugar
     1 cup light corn syrup
     1 cup water
     2 cups raw "spanish" peanuts
     1/2 tsp. salt
     1 Tbsp. butter
     1 tsp. baking soda
     *will need x2 greased cookie sheets
 
   In a heavy saucepan, over medium heat, combine sugar, corn syrup, and water. cook unitil 234 degrees is reached with therm. Add peanuts and salt, stirr CONSTANTLY until you reach 305 degrees. Quickly stirr in butter and baking soda. Pour quickly over the prepared baking sheets. Let sit till cooled then break apart.
 
*huggs*
  dani

 

 

Two roads diverged in a yellow wood,
And sorry I could not travel both
And be one traveler, long I stood

 

 


DiLane
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   Posted 12/16/2009 11:05 PM (GMT -7)   
I'm sorry that you had such a painful reaction to your injection. I had an epidural injection in my neck two years ago, and it hurt like crazy. I thought I would get to lie down flat on my stomach with a place for my head to sort of hang. Instead I had to sit up, at the edge of the gurney with my chin down. Terribly uncomfortable position, especially for a person in pain, with a horrible grinding sound, as if the needle was going through bone. I thought it would never end. I had it done in a pain clinic that was in a hospital. Never again. Last year, I was at one of the best hospitals in the world, in Boston. A physiatrist there told me to never get an injection in my neck again, "because it can paralyze you." I won't ever get another one. I got no relief whatsoever from it. It was one of the worst experiences of my life. I know what you mean, although your procedure sounds more painful than mine was.
Fibromyalgia, Arthritis, Chronic Pain, Hyperthyroidism, Cervical spine issues (DDD, spinal stenosis, bulging discs and more!), Depression, Anxiety.
 
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Screaming Eagle
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   Posted 12/17/2009 12:12 PM (GMT -7)   
Dilane, I think we must have gone to the same DR, as yours sounded just like mine. I too, had to sit on the side of the bed for a while with my chin tucked down. I tried several times to lift my head up only to be met with horrible pain in my shoulders. I was able to lay down after a while....and was a few minutes before I got relaxed enough to leave, but even then I hung my head straight down to the ground and hobbled out to the van for the ride home. Believe it or not, I think I'm going back to see him for Pain management, and will explain why later after I get my wits about myself here. I owe so many people here many Thanks for their comments, but have not come to terms in my mind on what exactly what I want to say. I have noticed an absence of PaLAdy from the forums, and that bothers me greatly, as I consider her a good friend. Anyone know where she is?

Michael
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