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merrygirl
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   Posted 2/2/2010 2:01 PM (GMT -7)   
I had trigger point injections in my shoulders (4 places) and I never got them again. I felt a lot more sore and flu like after. IT felt great until the novicaine wore off then felt flulike for a week.

anyone else have trouble with these? Should I try again?

thanks,
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   Posted 2/2/2010 5:45 PM (GMT -7)   
melissa

I have had steroid injections in my shoulder and they worked quite well, I have had the trigger point injections and never had any luck with them! But I never had any luck with the epidural steroid injections in back either. Just in my shoulder and the base of my skull in my upper neck! Everyone is so different, what works for one person might not work for another, so there is just no one set rule that applies to everyone. But if you didn't think it helped you much before, and if it caused you allot of discomfort, why do it again? But only you can decide that!

Good Luck to you melissa

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   Posted 2/2/2010 5:53 PM (GMT -7)   
Merry, did they help you at all? My Dr has also talked about doing that for me, and I don't know anything about them. is it kinda like an Epidural?

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   Posted 2/2/2010 6:12 PM (GMT -7)   
Hi Melissa -

Your symptoms make it sound like you may have an allergy to something in the injection. That's exactly what I get when I get any vaccination, like flu shots or pneumonia vaccine. I am allergic/sensitive to the sulfite preservative and the gelatin (which also has sulfite).

If the local anesthetic had epinephrine in it, thet could be the cause too. I'm allergic to that because epi has sulfite in it.
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   Posted 2/2/2010 9:32 PM (GMT -7)   
Trigger point injections are not the same as an epidural. They can use many different types of medications for trigger points. They will general use an anti-inflam drug plus some meds like novacaine to deaden the area somewhat. I get bursitis in my hips really bad at times, and two years ago did trigger points and they used Toradol since I cannot tolerate steroids. and it worked. I use to get them done every two weeks in my neck, thoracic area, back and shoulder and go on to work. Nothing like starting your day like a pin cushion. They worked really well for me in getting some of the spasmss down which can cause incredible pain. I really think a lot of times the trigger points are only as good as the person doing them. Once the deadening medication hits you usually feel nothing. I did not find them to be bad, I have had a lot worse done to me than that.
 

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   Posted 2/3/2010 5:24 AM (GMT -7)   
I've had trigger point injections in muscle spasms in the lower back that were successful. Sounds like Alcie may be onto something by saying you may be having an allergic reaction to something in the meds injected. I'd be letting your doctor know how you are feeling before proceeding.
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   Posted 2/3/2010 11:23 AM (GMT -7)   
I have had trigger point injections for pelvic pain. Did not have any of the after symptoms that you had, but did find that after lydocane wore off the pain come back. have your tried the llydocane patches? The do work pretty good. You do need a dr. sript for them.
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merrygirl
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   Posted 2/3/2010 12:36 PM (GMT -7)   
I spoke with the doctor and he said that maybe I got the flu or something after. rolleyes

He is a nice man, but he always seems to rush. SO I am going ot try the inejstions again followed by the graston technique, which is a "new" thing that they are offering. hopefullly it will help I am desperate.

with the trigger points the doctor injects lidocaine into a knot in your muscle and uses the needle to break up the tissue. the epidurals are way more complicated.

the graston technique is kind of like a massage but they use metal tools to kind of smooth out the knots. At this point I am game.

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   Posted 2/3/2010 3:32 PM (GMT -7)   
You know a good, deep tissue massage, from an experienced therapist can do wonders for trigger points, IMHO. Problem is insurances don't want to pay. Years ago when I was working I would get regular massages, and had a great massage therapist who knew where all my knots were. Add some of the right kind of stretching to that, and a lot of trigger points could at least be improved if not resolved. But it takes money I don't have. Wish I did!

Just something you may consider, merry, if the injections don't work or create problems. PT can also help with the knots, but again you've got to do your homework, and it also does relate to what other medical issues you have going on.

Good luck!

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   Posted 2/4/2010 8:37 AM (GMT -7)   
Hi Melissa. I have never had the injections but wanted to tell you that I have had graston technique done in a few different areas. To be honest it will probably hurt like crazy when they do it at first but it is worth the pain. I have many muscle tightness and scarring issues and that has been one of the few things that I have had done over the years that actually helped. It may take several sessions depending on how bad things are or you may get significant improvement almost right away. I have had both experiences. When he did it on the hip and side of my upper leg it did hurt and I actually ended up with a few bruises at first but it got to the point that it felt great to have graston done on it. I kind of missed it when he decided I didn't need it there anymore. Well I wish you the very best of luck with it and please do let us know how it turns out for you. I'm kind of excited to see someone else here using this treatment. Lisa
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