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flowery
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   Posted 3/2/2010 12:42 PM (GMT -7)   
I know he had surgery yesterday...Was wondering if anybody on this forum has heard how his surgery went? I saidl prayers all day yesterday hoping his surgery went well and has a good outcome! Thanks everybody!
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   Posted 3/2/2010 12:44 PM (GMT -7)   
Yes, I too have been praying for a good result from SE's surgery. If anyone has any info please post!

Thanks,
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MIKEL99
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   Posted 3/2/2010 12:45 PM (GMT -7)   
Was it yesterday ? I spoke to him in this forum yesterday I thought wishing him lots of luck and letting him know we are all with him . I didn't know it was today though , I hope we hear something soon .
HIV+ also Hep c , need hip replacement surgery on hold because of unknown but cellulitus-like ailment  .most pain from hip condition and cellulitus-like ailment .hands numb may have carpal tunnel syndrome now . Great frustration because doctors unable to diagnos ailment              .Medecines - Oxycontin , percocet , Oxycondone , Celelbrex ,Avalox , lasix .


MIKEL99
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   Posted 3/2/2010 12:47 PM (GMT -7)   
yes I soke to him yesterday at 10:57 am , he didn't say it was today but he said he was alone right now , which concerned me .Again eagle your in our prayers .
HIV+ also Hep c , need hip replacement surgery on hold because of unknown but cellulitus-like ailment  .most pain from hip condition and cellulitus-like ailment .hands numb may have carpal tunnel syndrome now . Great frustration because doctors unable to diagnos ailment              .Medecines - Oxycontin , percocet , Oxycondone , Celelbrex ,Avalox , lasix .


flowery
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   Posted 3/2/2010 12:48 PM (GMT -7)   
He said his surgery was March 1st. I had the same surgery about 10 years ago and am just curious to his outcome. With me I could feel right away that it was better..but it was a long recovery. Just concerned..thanks
Flowery
 "Get busy living or get busy dying"
Dx in 2005 with Crohns after a Hysterectomy. Re-section in 2006...came apart so got to do it again! Frequent Kidney stones and Shingles... a new present as of 08-09 Diabetes Type 2. Total of 12 surgerys.
Imran, Asacol, Colestid, Bentyl, Lamotil, Paxil, Nexium, Probiodicts, Vit D, Folic Acid, Lots of Potassium, Fish Oil, up to 6 Immodium a day. Oh, and one Giant Pill holder!
 
 
               
                        


Screaming Eagle
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   Posted 3/2/2010 12:58 PM (GMT -7)   
   Hello All! Thanks for your concern. There was a mix up in paper work, and my surgery is now scheduled for the 5th this Friday. The surgery center sent me paperwork that said the 1st, then much later I get paperwork from my surgeon that says the 5th.
 
I hope this clears things up a bit. I will have my wife post here, as soon as she knows something for you all.
Right now, I'm scared to death, and am full of worry. It is a serious operation to me. Lets just hope the outcome will be a good one. Again, thanks for checking.
 
    SE
DDD (Degenerative Disk Disease) S1-L4-L5, Heart Attack 2002, Angioplasty to clear blocked Artery and to implant Stent. Six Epidurals, Disocgram, Melanoma Cancer 07, Lumbar Fusion March of 2010, Four cortisone injections Tendinitis in Elbow.


MIKEL99
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   Posted 3/2/2010 1:17 PM (GMT -7)   
Thanks for clearing that up eagle I was confused as were a few of us , that your ok is the main thing but I got by the way we were talking yesterday that the surgery wasn't immediate , even though its not far away .I don't blame you for being scared, try to meditate and free your mind with positive thoughts , I know thats very hard but please relax as you can . best of luck my friend
HIV+ also Hep c , need hip replacement surgery on hold because of unknown but cellulitus-like ailment  .most pain from hip condition and cellulitus-like ailment .hands numb may have carpal tunnel syndrome now . Great frustration because doctors unable to diagnos ailment              .Medecines - Oxycontin , percocet , Oxycondone , Celelbrex ,Avalox , lasix .


bsjaguar
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   Posted 3/2/2010 1:29 PM (GMT -7)   
You'll do just fine Michael. Don't forget that if you get too scared or nervous, ask for a little something as soon as you meet with your anesthesiologist. That way you can say all kinds of silly things for Debra to tease you about later. It is a major surgery though and you are going to hurt afterwards so don't freak out. Every day will get better.

I put some music I enjoy on my mp3 player for in the hospital. It was hard concentrating on the tv so I would just put in my earbuds and push the button on the morphine pump. My husband enjoys listening to books on cd. He loads those into windows media player then puts them on his mp3 player. He's never had any issues with copy right protection on these.

How long does the doc expect you to stay in the hospital? I was there for 4 days with mine.
---Jag---
 
DDD, osteoarthritis, facet syndrome, fusion surgeries C-5/7 & L-4/5 both in 2006, torn meniscus surgeries left knee 2000 & 2002, buldging disc L-2/3


Screaming Eagle
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   Posted 3/2/2010 2:05 PM (GMT -7)   

   Hello jag! Thanks for the information, and you have a good idea with the Mp3 player. Your help is heart felt, and I appreciate it very much. Thank you all! I will try to post on thursday evening before I go in for the surgery on Friday. They told me to check in at 6:30am Friday morning, and that will be early for me.

 

      SE


DDD (Degenerative Disk Disease) S1-L4-L5, Heart Attack 2002, Angioplasty to clear blocked Artery and to implant Stent. Six Epidurals, Disocgram, Melanoma Cancer 07, Lumbar Fusion March of 2010, Four cortisone injections Tendinitis in Elbow.


hydrangea
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   Posted 3/2/2010 4:11 PM (GMT -7)   
I will be thinking about you... I agree ask the anesthesiologist for a little something extra before you go in. My anesthesiologist called the night before so I was able to talk to him about pain control. I am not going to lie, you will have pain after surgery, so don't forget to hit the button. By talking to him before he was able to have everything lined up before I even went in. His words were " Ill have something a little extra in my pocket for you" He did a great job. If they want to send you home the next day (like me) I suggest you stay an exra day. I wish I had. Please make sure that your wife lets us know how you are.
Good luck to you!!!!
Diagnosed crohns Disease 07, Bladder tumor and inflammation, Herniated disc, spinal stenosis, facet arthritis, degenerative disc disease, siatica, Three laparoscopis, hysterectomy, physical therapy, trigger point injections, spinal epidurals, Meds lyrica, vicodine, amrix.


PAlady
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   Posted 3/2/2010 4:31 PM (GMT -7)   
Michael,
Do you know exactly what procedure you're having? I think I recall you thought you may need a double fusion. Also, is it a minimally invasive procedure? If it is, yes, it's a big deal, but it's not as bad as a lot of other surgeries. Mine ended up being more complicated and it took 6 hrs instead of 3, and I was in the hospital for 6 days instead of 2-3 that I was initially told. But then I went home and stayed alone - yes, alone! I had my cousin coming over to help me out, and the community nurses coming in, but I survived with a cane, raised toilet seat, and shower chair. The first night at home getting out of bed to use the bathroom was a shocker, as I forgot how many meds I was on and good thing the cane and the dresser were nearby to hold onto, but otherwise things went ok.

Just take it easy, and if it's a minimally invasive fusion the healing isn't horrific. Make sure they've got your bowels moving before you leave the hospital - or give you some help for that. That was the worst part of being home alone! (I know, maybe TMI but it's a reality) They should never have let me go home without that, especially after 6 days, but my community nurses were wonderful.

You'll do fine! You don't need lots of family and such around - it's great you'll have your wife to help you out, and maybe some home health nurses, but try to relax a bit!

PaLady

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   Posted 3/2/2010 5:10 PM (GMT -7)   
Will be saying prayers for you on Friday...I've had 3 cervical fusions and have learned that it's never a time to be 'brave'...as others have said...ask for something when you get to the hospital to help you relax..and when you are discharged..take your medicine exactly at the time they say to stay 'ahead' of the pain..

That was my biggest learning moment..thinking I was feeling better so skipping a dose of pain meds here or there then having it hit and not be able to get it under control for many hours..

Rest, rest, and more rest!...Plenty of movies/tv shows to keep you occupied and mind off of your recovery..

Big Hugs (( ))
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ACDF C5-C7, (no hardware), with autograft bone Nov. 2001
(reabsorption of bone 2 years later...still lost in body..expect to burp it out at anytime..haha")) 
ACDF with hardware, allograft bone Nov. 2005 
Anterior and Posterior CDF, allograft bone with BMP, removal of old hardware, use of titanium plates, rods, screws, & kitchen sink (lol) Dec 2006
 
 


Screaming Eagle
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   Posted 3/2/2010 8:48 PM (GMT -7)   
Thank you Snowbunny! That is great information! PaLAdy, you always confuse me, and now I'm not sure what I'm having, as I do not know what is a "minimally invasive procedure" I'm having a fusion and of which disk, I'm not sure at this time, but I'm guessing Somewhere around the L4,L5, S1 area. The discogram was done to let the surgeon know which ones needed to be fused. I did not get to see the result's of the test. Those test were sent to the surgeon, and I will give the latest MRI to him the morning of the surgery.

This is my first major operation, but not my first major health issue. My surgeon said, that it will take around 4 to 5 hrs for the surgery, if he had to fuse two of them, and that I could expect to stay in the hospital somewhere around 4 to 6 days.
I'm headed to bed, as I'm worn out tonight. Thank you for all your concern, and I will post as soon as I can. Very tired.

SE
DDD (Degenerative Disk Disease) S1-L4-L5, Heart Attack 2002, Angioplasty to clear blocked Artery and to implant Stent. Six Epidurals, Disocgram, Melanoma Cancer 07, Lumbar Fusion March of 2010, Four cortisone injections Tendinitis in Elbow.


PAlady
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   Posted 3/2/2010 8:54 PM (GMT -7)   
SE,
Didn't mean to confuse you. Sorry about that. Minimally invasive just has to do with how the surgery is performed. I'm guessing your doc would do this unless there's a reason not to. The other option is more cutting (a larger incision, more muscle cut, longer healing time, etc.). You probably could find out by calling your surgeon's office and just asking the receptionist to check your surgery orders or your chart. I know I wanted to know. But maybe you don't, so that's ok, too.

It is exhausting thinking and preparing for it. So I hope you can get some rest over the next couple of days. I was just trying to help you relax a bit about the fact that some of your family weren't able to come.

Take care,

PaLady

Screaming Eagle
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   Posted 3/2/2010 9:11 PM (GMT -7)   
PaLady, they showed me a device that they will be fusing me with. I think it was a plate with 4 screws, and a piece that replaced the disk. Does that sound right to you? At this point, I just want it over with, and get my life back.
Also they are going in through the front, so I think it will be pretty major. What do you think? I will not sleep well tomorrow night or the next! I'm a worry wart.

SE
DDD (Degenerative Disk Disease) S1-L4-L5, Heart Attack 2002, Angioplasty to clear blocked Artery and to implant Stent. Six Epidurals, Disocgram, Melanoma Cancer 07, Lumbar Fusion March of 2010, Four cortisone injections Tendinitis in Elbow.

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PAlady
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   Posted 3/3/2010 3:44 AM (GMT -7)   
SE,
There are a variety of devices that can be used, usually according to the needs of the patient and the surgeon's preference/specialty. Most of us do have screws and plates, and I know my surgeon used a newer protein substance rather than bone that was supposed to fuse faster than bone (they usually take a graft from your own bone, or use cadaver bone - if they take a graft from a site it's likely around your hip and sometimes that site becomes more painful than the surgery site, so I think more and more surgeons are using cadaver bone or other substance).

Going in through the front means an "anterior" approach (anterior being the front side of the body, posterior being the back side). I'm not as knowledgeable about anterior approaches but I still think they can be done in a minimally invasive manner. That just means less cutting - using a smaller opening, etc. Mostly all depends on the skill of the surgeon.

Since you trust your surgeon maybe it's best to not know any more at this point for you. But after the fact you should ask just for your own knowledge.

I think I should stop now as I don't want to add to your stress. If you're curious simplest thing would be to call your doctor. But don't worry about pain management - they're usually pretty good with that these days. I had a morphine pump after surgery and kept forgetting to push it, but never really remember a lot of pain in the hospital. After a couple of days they started me back on oral meds, and my neurosurgeon has been great about prescribing ongoing pain meds (way beyond the call of duty). They'll probably give you some muscle relaxants, too. They're not going to let you be in pain unnecessarily - not nearly as tough as getting long term PM for most of us!

Good luck!

PaLady

Screaming Eagle
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   Posted 3/3/2010 4:19 AM (GMT -7)   
Thanks PaLady, Most of my problem, is that I'm on a fairly high dose of pain meds now, and I have a hard time remembering anything. I have had several members email me from this forum, and they get a chuckle out of the fact that I cannot remember their forum name. They are always gracious about it with me though.

Yes, pain is my biggest fear here, along with a failed fusion, or what they call a dry fusion. I guess at this point, it really does not make any difference, as it is going to happen, and I need it done. We can fill in all the blanks after the surgery for you.

Thanks!

SE
DDD (Degenerative Disk Disease) S1-L4-L5, Heart Attack 2002, Angioplasty to clear blocked Artery and to implant Stent. Six Epidurals, Disocgram, Melanoma Cancer 07, Lumbar Fusion March of 2010, Four cortisone injections Tendinitis in Elbow.


Screaming Eagle
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   Posted 3/3/2010 4:35 AM (GMT -7)   
Flowery, Nasalady, Jag, Hydrangea, and Mikel, and my little snowbunny, Thank you for your support, and well wishes. I did not want to leave you out of the conversation here.

I promise, the wife will post something here as soon as we know how the surgery went. Tomorrow I go to pre/op class to get any paperwork, and or blood work done.

Now, back to bed I go! :)

SE
DDD (Degenerative Disk Disease) S1-L4-L5, Heart Attack 2002, Angioplasty to clear blocked Artery and to implant Stent. Six Epidurals, Disocgram, Melanoma Cancer 07, Lumbar Fusion March of 2010, Four cortisone injections Tendinitis in Elbow.


auntkay
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   Posted 3/3/2010 4:47 AM (GMT -7)   
Good luck Screaming Eagle

bsjaguar
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   Posted 3/3/2010 5:20 AM (GMT -7)   
Michael, were you able to stop smoking or at least cut back? Since I was a smoker, I did cut back alot before my surgery and until I started fusing, my doctor ordered a spine fusion stimulator for me to wear. If I remember right, I wore it for about three months. These are normally ordered for smokers, diabetics and overweight patients. Just wondering?

My only problem with the morphine pump was that I kept falling asleep and then not pushing the button. I only used it one night and the next day asked for meds orally on a scheduled basis. The morphine also made me sick to my stomach so if you feel nauseous ask for something for this before it gets too bad.

Do keep your BM in control like PaLady said. I didn't have one for 4 days until the nurses finally asked me then everyone was freaking out. Ended up having a enema which was no fun when you have to have your brace on to go to the bathroom and can't move very fast. Not a pretty picture.

I too had went home with very little support but got along just fine.
---Jag---
 
DDD, osteoarthritis, facet syndrome, fusion surgeries C-5/7 & L-4/5 both in 2006, torn meniscus surgeries left knee 2000 & 2002, buldging disc L-2/3


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   Posted 3/3/2010 6:33 AM (GMT -7)   
Ohh...I really hope that you are quitting smoking...not just before the surgery..but after as well...My Neurosurgeon won't even perform surgery on a smoker as the risk of non-fusion/failed surgery is almost 95%!

As well as..studies now show that smoking changes chemicals in the brain that make pain medicine less effective and harder to control pain as well as can complicate anesthesia and breathing issues during surgery...The spine institute I go to specialize in this area and do everything in the months before someone's surgery to help them quit for good..

Not to mention how unhealthy and dangerous we know cigarettes are in general with cancer, emphysema..

Ok..not trying to lecture..really...just want the absolute best outcome for you and others who are having/had surgery..To go through all that pain and risk just to have this sugery..you want the possibility of fusion/success at the highest level..

I won't write anymore about this..promise...LOL...Just my public service announcement for the year...HAHA...

I truly care about you guys..

(FYI)..My last fusion was with donor bone AND BMP...Bone Morphegenetic Protein..My Neurosurgeon adds this protein to help the growth and fusion of the bone...it's not used as a replacement for the bone...may be different for others..but the bone is used to replace the disc height/space from the deteriorated bone..cages/plates/screws to keep in place..then the BMP is put into the disc space/into and around the bone to absorb and promote the solidification of the bone..
SB and "the pup who snores loudly" 
 
ACDF C5-C7, (no hardware), with autograft bone Nov. 2001
(reabsorption of bone 2 years later...still lost in body..expect to burp it out at anytime..haha")) 
ACDF with hardware, allograft bone Nov. 2005 
Anterior and Posterior CDF, allograft bone with BMP, removal of old hardware, use of titanium plates, rods, screws, & kitchen sink (lol) Dec 2006
 
 


Screaming Eagle
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   Posted 3/3/2010 7:04 AM (GMT -7)   

   Jag, Thanks for ythe reminder about the stimulator, I forgot all about it. I did cut back greatly in the smokes, for a while, and have quite completely, and hope to do so forever after the surgery.

The buddy of mine that just had his fusion done, smoked up to his surgery, and is now still smoking. It's OK, Snowbunny!...but you do sound like my DR! :) My wife has been on me about it for a long time, and it is the hardest thing to do. It is easier to come off the meds, than the smokes.

I have been eating Metamucil by the ton, and drinking more than my fair share of water as well. Maybe this will help me too.

 

   SE


DDD (Degenerative Disk Disease) S1-L4-L5, Heart Attack 2002, Angioplasty to clear blocked Artery and to implant Stent. Six Epidurals, Disocgram, Melanoma Cancer 07, Lumbar Fusion March of 2010, Four cortisone injections Tendinitis in Elbow.


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   Posted 3/3/2010 9:54 AM (GMT -7)   
 
 
  Dear Michael,
 
     Good morning. I hope you are doing okay today. I cannot imagine the amount of anxiety you must have right now! I wont chat away endlessly, but I did want to stop by and wish you luck! It sounds like you have everything well prepared for your recovery. You did a darn good job of making quick work of all the preperations too! Your in our hearts and prayers here, stay strong!
 
*huggs*
   dani

 

 

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Screaming Eagle
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   Posted 3/3/2010 11:58 AM (GMT -7)   

   Ok, just got back from the Hospital, and did all the paperwork and the blood work in advance. The nurse said they have scheduled a fusion of the L4-L5-S1. So I'm a guessing that means two disk will come out, and be fused in those places.

They also did an EKG 12 point lead, and she said that my heart rate was very slow, a 59, not sure what that means, or does that even sound right to you all. She also told me to never shave off all my hair before a surgery again. Said that if I nicked myself, that can be an entry point for infection.

I'm almost there now. Also the buddy that came to work from being off for 7 to 8 weeks, went home early today, and said he may have come back to work too early. Hydrangea, please take it easy if your reading this, and take care of yourself. Recovery should not be taken lightly on a fusion.

   SE


DDD (Degenerative Disk Disease) S1-L4-L5, Heart Attack 2002, Angioplasty to clear blocked Artery and to implant Stent. Six Epidurals, Disocgram, Melanoma Cancer 07, Lumbar Fusion March of 2010, Four cortisone injections Tendinitis in Elbow.


PAlady
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   Posted 3/3/2010 12:28 PM (GMT -7)   
SE,
Yes, sounds like you're having a double fusion. There's no need to provide me with details - it's your surgery! So I'll just wish you the best and leave it at that.

And I do hope you quit smoking. Snowbunny is right about this aspect. Remember the fusing is taking place for up to a year, not just right after surgery.

I hope all goes smoothly.

PaLady
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