freed from chronic pain

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timur
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   Posted 5/18/2010 1:18 AM (GMT -7)   
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Post Edited By Moderator (Chutz) : 5/18/2010 11:59:20 PM (GMT-6)


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   Posted 5/18/2010 3:31 AM (GMT -7)   
This entire thread may be deleted due to advertising for the books, but I have read The Power of Now and found it useless!!!

Just my opinion though....read anything you want, of course.
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timur
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   Posted 5/18/2010 4:17 AM (GMT -7)   
hi thanks for expressing your opinion, i edited it accordingly...iI am disappointed that it didn't help you. From what iv experienced, i was suffering from severe pain without any physical explanation since 17 (now 25) the theory worked. Its not necessary to read the book but to understand the basic concept which can be seen on you tube..

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MsBunky
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   Posted 5/18/2010 7:34 AM (GMT -7)   
Hi timur,

I'm glad that you found help thru this book, but unfortunately, I did not, and I don't think touting it as a cure is appropriate. It would appear to me from your two posts in this thread that what you were experiencing was a mental issue that manifested itself as "pain" in your mind. If your doctors were unable to find a physical cause and reading a book completely "freed" you from pain, then you never actually suffered from chronic PHYSICAL pain, unlike 99.90% of the posters here.

For those of us who have been diagnosed with chronic pain, there is detailed information provided to us by our doctors, such as: WHO is suffering, WHAT the problem is, WHERE it's located in the body, WHY it's happened, WHEN will we be normal again and HOW we are going to fix it.

Most of the time, we are given assistance in managing the pain but generally, there is no cure. I believe that strength to deal with chronic pain or illness often comes from a Higher Power. For me, that's God....for others, who knows. I just know that for the most part, we all still suffer.

My closing sentence really sums up my attitude to people claiming a "cure" for chronic pain exists; "If there is even ONE person on this earth suffering from chronic pain with no relief, then there is no cure".
Conditions: Fibromyalgia, Myofascial Pain, Chronic Pelvic Pain (with permanent muscle damage), Femoralacetabular Impingement (CAM and Pincer), Reynauds, IBS, Surgical Adhesions, Ophthalmic Migraines, Severe Hot Flashes (both Surgical Menopause and medication related), plus physically unable to vomit due to the Nissen, and I have extremely tiny veins with a lot of scar tissue...a joy when it comes to having to give blood or get an IV started

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Medications: Oxycontin, Cesamet, Tramacet, Cymbalta, Flexeril and Clonidine plus Laxaday, Vitamin D and a Multi-Vitamin daily


timur
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   Posted 5/18/2010 9:42 PM (GMT -7)   
Hi Ms Bunky, I truly feel sympathetic to all of you undergoing chronic pain. I didn't mean to offend anyone here. You are fair to say that there are cases that physically related. I just wanted to share my experience and to show that I had been freed from the pain. I was labelled by doctors many different conditions some include tmj syndrome, newly persistant headaches, chronic migraine, "weak muscles" bad back etc etc (mostly a combination of these) and many assumed it was genetic and said "i have to just live with it". It was told to me by a phsycologist once that many chronic pain conditions have a major mind element to it that makes the pain much more severe than it actually is (for eg: 30% pysical pain and 70% is mind related), in otherwords the pain was made worse by the mind; or i guess in my case it was 100% mind. The mind element in a matter of speaking that i had lead to a lot of physical pain symptioms in my body i.e i had terrrible back/shouolder pain, tension in my legs, neck and worse of all severe headaches that never went away. I was not AWARE at all that it was mind related and beleive me the pain was real and thank god i am over it. I am just hoping that someone on this forum will benefit from their condition just like myself, maybe not 'cure' but atleast improve their condition.
Best Regards,
Timur

Post Edited (timur) : 5/19/2010 2:28:58 AM (GMT-6)


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   Posted 5/19/2010 10:43 AM (GMT -7)   
Timur....unfortunately we have had so many posts about "Miracle Cures", and "It's all in your mind", so we really don't pay much attention to these posts...nothing personal.

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   Posted 5/19/2010 10:46 PM (GMT -7)   
I agree Me! Why would we be here if we could be out of pain so easily as reading a book, taking mountains of supplements or drinking some obscure berry juice. I can tell you for sure that no way in God's Green earth do I want to live this way. It's destroying my life. And I too get tired of the "Miracle Cures". It makes a mockery of us.

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   Posted 5/20/2010 6:11 AM (GMT -7)   

Hi Everybody,

I don't believe that Eckert Tolle claims a cure anywhere in his teachings (maybe I missed that)....Homeopathy, chiropractic, Massage and many other treatments that are available do not CLAIM CURE.  There are many hocus companies out there but there are just as many that are REAL and do help.  We are right to avoid anyone that makes claims of CURE,  any reputable Dr., Naturopath, Supplement company etc. who makes these claims can have their license to practice or sell taken........BUT.....there are many modalities that CAN help take the edge off of pain, reduce symptoms of certain diseases etc.  I didn't see Timur's original post....but feel its good to share the info, it may help someone else.  What works for one may not work for another.  Most of us here have CP from Physical problems, but, in the world there are just as many people out there who suffer pain from emotional causes. 

IMO its always good to hear from someone who's been helped by something....ya just never know!  Healing well to me is sharing our most inner feelings, when we are frustrated, sad, happy and so on....its also where we celebrate when someone has found their TREATMENT (what has helped ease or cut the pain) either with medications, supplements or spiritual beliefs.

I prefer to keep an open mind, over the last 10 yrs I've found many that have helped take the edge off the pain and just as many that haven't.

Just sharing throughts,

XXOO
Patti

 

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