Instead of fine arts they need to teach advanced listening to all medical professionals.

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Jim1969
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   Posted 6/17/2010 11:27 AM (GMT -7)   
I don't know why schools insist on students who are majoring in some kind of medicine take things like fine arts when that time could be better spent teaching advanced listening skills.

For the past few weeks I have been going to physical therapy (round 3) and have done my best to cooperate with the instructions of the therapist, but everything they have had me do has only aggravated my back. I have had two appointment a week and at every appointment I have told them this and their only reply is "give it time". I tell them I am having a lot more pain, that I can feel a lot of swelling around my spine, that I am having a higher occurrence of pain into my legs (L5/S1 herniated discs) than before and that the pain has gotten so bad my pain meds are no longer touching it.

I had to cancel an appointment last week due to feeling really sick for a few days and over the weekend I decided not to go back and canceled the remaining appointments. I just do not see the point of continuing along a path that seems to only be making things worse and doing it with people who refuse to listen.

Yes I expected some additional pain but not to make things worse and have these so called professionals keep going done the same road.
2 confirmed herniated lumbar discs. Spinal Arthritis. Spinal Stenosis, diabetic peripheral nueropathy.


PAlady
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   Posted 6/17/2010 12:51 PM (GMT -7)   
Jim,
There are a lot of lousy PT's out there, but there are some good ones, too. I'd encourage you to try to find another one - at a different place, and call and see if you can speak to them on the phone in advance and tell them the difficulties you're having and see how they respond. If you don't feel they're listening on the phone, don't bother making an appointment.

I've had to shop around a lot for PT's in my life and when I find a good one I hang on for dear life! LOL Sometimes you might have a friend or someone who knows a good PT. You also might look for a smaller, independent PT (although there may be insurance issues there) because they are more concerned about not only PT, but keeping their business going and customer service is more of a priority.

I agree it sounds like the one you had is best left behind you!

PaLady

Jim1969
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   Posted 6/17/2010 8:49 PM (GMT -7)   
The first visit, after the initial eval, I get this big long spiel about how the only way my back will "heal" without surgery is to rest it as much as possible. Avoid bending, lifting, etc.

The second visit, two days later, they give me the same bit about the need to rest my back and then proceed to give me the exercises to do. rolleyes

The following visit I am then told not to do any exercises but to start laying down every two hours for 15 minutes on my stomach with a pillow under my legs and another under my chest even though when they tried that in during the eval it sent all kinds of pain shooting down my legs.

The 4th visit it was...just dont use the pilllows.

5th and 6th visit after telling them that laying on my stomach for more than a couple of minutes was causing me a lot of back pain was basically told to stay the course. rolleyes

Maybe I am being somewhat paranoid but I really wonder if this is nothing more than a round about attempt trying to pressure me into surgery, which I have stated many times over I am not in favor of at this time, nor am I able to do it due to the demands of being the primary care giver to my 4 year old son.
2 confirmed herniated lumbar discs. Spinal Arthritis. Spinal Stenosis, diabetic peripheral nueropathy.


Jim1969
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   Posted 6/17/2010 8:51 PM (GMT -7)   
Yeah I am all too aware that there are some really lousy physical therapists out there and a handful of decent ones as I have been in physical therapy for one reason or another many, many times in the last 20 years or so.
2 confirmed herniated lumbar discs. Spinal Arthritis. Spinal Stenosis, diabetic peripheral nueropathy.


PAlady
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   Posted 6/17/2010 11:03 PM (GMT -7)   
Jim,
I've never had a PT tell me to lie on my stomach for any home exercises. For one thing, it's horrible for the neck, which is part of our spine. Yes, when they've treated me in the office sometimes I'm on my stomach, with a pillow under my lower abdomen to support the lumbar area, and a face rest so my neck isn't turned, but home exercises for my back have almost always involved lying on my back.

Sounds like odd PT to me. But hey, I'm sure there's lots I don't know.

PaLady

bsjaguar
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   Posted 6/18/2010 3:28 AM (GMT -7)   
I know where your coming from Jim. The last time I tried PT my back kept getting worse too from the stretches they gave me. I couldn't afford many visits due to the $30 co-pay at each visit but did do the exercises they sent home with me each time. They would also give me ultrasound treatments or tens unit treatments on my cervical & lumbar spine but those didn't seem to help either. Then they would apply heat which I could do at home with my rice bag for free.
The only time PT has helped me was getting my left arm working again when I lost use of it but did end up having cervical fusion in the end.

If they are having you lie on your stomach for any reason, I'd blow them off now. Lying on your stomach for any length of time when you have a bad back is not a good thing. I have a hard time doing it even when having injections.

If I remember right, you have filed for SSDI. That's one thing I hate about having filed. If you don't try everything the doctor wants, SS will look at you as not following doctors orders. One good thing with SS though, I think that if you can't afford a treatment, they can't hold it against you.

Good Luck and I'd try to find another PT before moving forward with it.
---Jag---
 
DDD, osteoarthritis, facet syndrome, fusion surgeries C-5/7 & L-4/5 both in 2006, torn meniscus surgeries left knee 2000 & 2002, buldging disc L-2/3, fibromyalgia, polymyalgia rheumatica

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