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false_sercurity
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   Posted 6/28/2010 4:34 AM (GMT -7)   
Good Morning everyone..hope everyone is doing good with a low pain day..Was to family doctor Thrusday  she gave  me my MRI  report and it wasnt so great..apparently this is whats  wrong with me and my family doctor is unsure what they are going to do to fix me if im fixable at all..i asked for a copy of the MRI not that i understand any of it but maybe you people  can shed some light on my problems..ok here goes..i have..Bilateral spondylolysis of the pars  interarticularis at  L-5 S-1..with grade 1  spondylolisthesis..Dehydration of the disc L5-S1...disc space narrowing at  L4-L5...disc space narrowing at L5-S1..there is a right paracentral disc protrusion at the  L4-L5....At L5-S1  there is diffuse bulging of the annulus fibrosis..more prominant centrally and to the right laterally which comes in contact  with the exiting   right L5 nerve root..there also a focal linear  annular   tear  at the right side of the  annulus at  L5-S1..this could be symptomatic...
 
 Sacrolliac joints   demonstrates subchondral sclerosis of the mid protion of the anterior aspect of the  SI  joints..more prominant of the left, involving the iliac side...there  is subchondral marrow  edema  at  the site of sclerosis...findings of bilateral scaroillisis of SI joints on past  CT scans comfirmed..suggested bone scan with scarolliac joint ratios  and tomograpic  image if clinically indicated..
 
  My antheologist that was going to give me steriod injections in spine on July  6th has  decided not to do injections on that day...he  just wants to talk to me now...so not sure whats up with that...unsure now if im goin  to get them since the nerve damage decovered..so  here i am again..knowing whats wrong b ut still have no app. with spine specialist yet..so still in the dark on how or if i can be fixed...hoping maybe on 6th of July the antheslogist can answer some of my long over due questions for now till i see the speclist getting real tired of waitin..waitin...waitin...and the pain continues...will keep you all imformed as to whats going on...thanks for listening and you all take care of urselves
 
                                          God Bless you all,
                                                                            Brenda

MsBunky
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   Posted 6/28/2010 6:42 AM (GMT -7)   
Hi Brenda,

I don't have a clue what your MRI results mean, but I wanted to wish you good luck when you see the anesthetist. Hopefully s/he will be able to answer your questions and provide further information on what's happening. It sounds like there are a lot of problems throughout your spine, and maybe this will speed up getting an appointment with the spine specialist.

Hang in there and take care of yourself. Having some of the answers is helpful, but I truly hope you get ALL the answers soon!

hugs,
Pam
Conditions: Fibromyalgia, Severe Myofascial Pain, Chronic Pelvic Pain (with permanent muscle damage), Femoroacetabular Impingement (CAM and Pincer), Reynauds, IBS, Surgical Adhesions, Ophthalmic Migraines, Severe Hot Flashes (both Surgical Menopause and medication related), plus physically unable to vomit due to the Nissen, and I have extremely tiny veins with a lot of scar tissue...a joy when it comes to having to give blood or get an IV started

Surgeries: Appendix, Uterus, Nissen Fundoplication for GERD, Left Ovary, Gallbladder, Right Ovary, TVT

Medications: Oxycontin, Cesamet, Tramacet, Cymbalta, Flexeril and Clonidine plus Laxaday, Vitamin D and a Multi-Vitamin daily


Chartreux
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   Posted 6/28/2010 7:52 AM (GMT -7)   
Well, try not to get too worried, yet..there are all sorts of treatment options still open to you, so maybe seeing
the spine specialist would be a good thing, just keep positive...all those what if's can haunt you so just wait to
hear what has to be said...so fingers crossed and well wishes to you...Prayers and hugz...
Maybe for the time period look at accupuncture treatments (Chinese medicine) just an idea, if you
don't take any supplements maybe ask your doctor about vitamin D or Omega-3 and maybe check to see if your
vitamin b-12 is low...B-12 can cause bad things if it's low...just some ideas to help keep you busy while your
waiting...waiting is always so very hard...
(((((((((((((((Brenda)))))))))))))))))))
hugz

false_sercurity
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   Posted 6/28/2010 9:38 AM (GMT -7)   
thank you MsBunky and Chartreux..yes waiting i dont like ..feel like ive been waiting forever now but im trying to stay positive but 10 years without any treatment with all this stuff wrong really got me concerned as to whether they can make the pain stop after so many years have passed..I really need some answers..pray the anthesologist will explain on how to get me fixed..seems my family doctor dont have the answers :-( .... Chartreux im taking as of present Vit D 800mg....Calcium 1500mg...Napoxen 250mg 3x day Flexrill10mg 3x day...Morphine 8mg..thanks for the hugz and prayers could use some today for im a bit down...will keep you all imformed when i find out more

everyone take care..I pray for low pain for you all

Screaming Eagle
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   Posted 6/28/2010 10:21 AM (GMT -7)   
Hello False! While I'm not a doctor by any means, I did see the wording Annular tear in your report. Those can heal on their own, but take extensive time to do so, and rarely do.
There is no blood supply to that particular area, thus the long healing time. My sister had almost the exact same report as yours, and she waited several months for the Annular tear to heal.

It never did, and she had the surgery to repair all of it. However they did not remove the disk, but they did fuse the spine. This is where I get lost, as I don't know what they fused.
The surgeon did put in rods to keep the compression to a minimum. I liked the fact that they kept the disk in for her, and her recovery has been remarkable to say the least.
Good luck to you, and make sure you have a good surgeon if you decide to go that route.

SE

bsjaguar
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   Posted 6/29/2010 4:03 AM (GMT -7)   

All that jibber jabber can be scary when you get those reports back.  I'm not a doctor but it sounds to me like you may have some degenerative disc disease going on with the disc drying out.  As the disc dries out it is less pliable which can cause the tears and also allows them to bulge out past the vertebra.  This can be from normal aging or it could be a hereditary thing like mine.  The annulus tears, which is the outer lining of the disc, can be very painful in itself.  This leaves an open area on the disc and anything that may be touching that area can cause pain.  My first annular tear was found in 2002 and caused me problems for years until it finally herniated or blew out and I had fusion surgery in 2006, having the disc removed and metal plates inserted.  Your bulging disc at L/4-S-/1  are probably pushing on the nerves leading from the spine causing alot of your pain also.

A good thing is I don't see mentioned are any osteophytes or bone spurs in other words arthritis of the spine, which can make things even worse.  I'd wait and see what your doctor has to say at your next visit.  A discectomy (sp?) may be in order.  This is where they surgically shave off the disc that is protruding or bulging to stop the nerve impingement.  SE, mentioned his sister having fusion completed to open up the disc space and this may be another option. 

Hopefully you and your doctor can come up with a plan to alleviate some of your pain.  There are alot of options besides surgery out there so try to be rather open minded to other things.  Normally, surgery is the last step.  Let us know what you find out at your next visit!
---Jag---
 
DDD, osteoarthritis, facet syndrome, fusion surgeries C-5/7 & L-4/5 both in 2006, torn meniscus surgeries left knee 2000 & 2002, buldging disc L-2/3, fibromyalgia, polymyalgia rheumatica


false_sercurity
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   Posted 6/29/2010 10:35 AM (GMT -7)   
well maybe im getting more worried than i should jag...guess after having this problem for 10 years ..with no reflexs in both my legs for last 10 yrs..parts of both legs permenantly numb for 10 yrs as well..with shooting pain down right leg..but everything was blamed on ruptured discs...spondylolisthesis...and the bilateral sacroiliitis with erosion...my CT scans over yrs never showed the tear in annuluar or the nerve damage...two wks ago was first time in my life they gave me MRI caused i kept complaining and askin why do i have no reflexs..numbness ..shootin pain for 10 yrs..kept sayin no nerve problems...well seems they were wrong..i do have nerve problems..so with all this happenin for 10 yrs..the nerve is likely dead..or can this even happen..if they remove the disc to release the pressure of nerve..after 10 yrs of pressure on it...everything will be ok??? Cuz im really confused jag...ill sure be glad when i get to a doctor that can tell me something..but you give me hope if all my problems will be gone if they remove that disc

bsjaguar
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   Posted 6/30/2010 3:33 AM (GMT -7)   
Don't give up hope False. Hopefully you have a good doctor that will work with you to find a solution to your problems. If possible I would try to have someone with you at your appt for another set of ears. The doctor will probably have alot of information and it is a good thing to have another person there to help to absorb it all. Do make sure you are fully aware of any procedures the doctor has planned for you before proceeding. Let us know how the appt goes!!

One question though. Are you on any meds for nerve pain such as neurontin or lyrica? With your numbness this may help.
---Jag---
 
DDD, osteoarthritis, facet syndrome, fusion surgeries C-5/7 & L-4/5 both in 2006, torn meniscus surgeries left knee 2000 & 2002, buldging disc L-2/3, fibromyalgia, polymyalgia rheumatica


false_sercurity
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   Posted 6/30/2010 5:15 AM (GMT -7)   
Thanks jag...i havent given up hope...after ten yrs of this with no real answers..i just get very fustrated at times and down...my husband and daughter have been very supportive of me..but like me.. they get tired and fustrated of my pain ..as well and the limited things i can do..My husband will be coming to my doctor app. Tuesday to see if my steriod injections are goin to still be a go...after they know there is nerve damage...the meds that im taking jag are...Flexeril 250mg 3x daily...for all the muscle spasms..Naproxen 250mg 3x daily..for inflammation... Morophine 4mg as needed..for pain..Calcium 1500mg daily...Vit. D 800mg daily..they tried me on Predozone 50mg daily for few days to see what happened before they do spine injections..but far as i saw predozone did very little but again im not the doctor..Thanks for ur support and will post again after i see the anthesologist..

Brenda

Twiggy2
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   Posted 7/14/2010 12:40 PM (GMT -7)   
hi i to have chronic back pain, been through the nerve blocks and epideral, didnt work so great for me but may be benificial for u. Everyone reacts to the differently. the epidural worked the best but didn;t last very long a few hours at the most. hope what ever u decide to do works out. if u need to talk im here take care have a low pain day.
 

 

 

 

 

 

Hi Twiggy good to hear from you, its been awhile. I deleted your 2nd post for you. Take care.

Post Edited By Moderator (straydog) : 7/14/2010 1:54:33 PM (GMT-6)


false_sercurity
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   Posted 7/15/2010 3:53 AM (GMT -7)   
Hi Twiggy...Im sorry to hear the pain you are suffering and that the injections didnt work so well for you..May i ask were the injections you took were they for sacroiliitis in your SI joints or for something else..I'm really on the fence about the injections scheduled for me on sept 7th..injections will go directly into the SI joint..he will do the right one for which gives me the most trouble..My PM doctor feel they will not help that much for i also have other issues with my spine which causes me same type of pain as the bilateral sacroiliitis the injections he said will not help other issues...so now i dont know what to do..He did changes some of my meds..presently taking Flexeril 10mg 2x daily....hydromorphine 2mg 3x daily as needed..tectra 40mg once daily..Vit D 800mg...calcuim 1500mg...was taking Naproxen 250mg 3x daily but he changed that to Celebrex 200mg once daily which seems to be helping more than the naproxen but only been on celebrex for a wk..he's tryin me till sept 1 by then i need to decide if im going thru with injections..totally discouraged with my whole situation..sometimes i wonder if even the doctors know how to stop this pain..sorry for venting on you i just get depressed sometimes over it all...take care Twiggy hope your day is of low pain for you
Brenda

Twiggy2
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   Posted 7/24/2010 7:10 AM (GMT -7)   
hello again false. the nerve blocks and or epidurals were for herniated disks, spinal stenosis, among other things wrong. i have ruptured discs from from cevial part of my spine all the way down to my lunbar spine not yet affecting my SI joint. the most part of my pain is in the thorasic and lumbar parts of the spine but have numbness in my left foot and sometimes in my neck and shoulders. along with other pain but i could go on and on. the epidural was ok it;s like you get when u have a baby and numbs you the duration of that one could be or is suppose to be longer lasting than the nerve blocks, the nerve blocks pinpoint more of the trouble spots. my PM doc asked me were i hurt and he marked the spots with a marker and then injected each spot. Im taking tyelenol 4 along with hydro morohcontin for break through pain but they really dont help much, i think surgery is going to be in my near future. Even though i am on permanent disabilty i continue to have severe pain. I hope this message wasnt to long and boring i hope that what ever you do decide to have done works for you and never give up trying to get tests, make the doc see that u are in pain etc. take care and keep in touch let me know how things go.
  • Current Diagnosis: Multilevel DDD, multiple Herniated and Bulging Disks from the Cervical spine down to the Lumbar spine, Spinal Stenosis and Mild Osteoarthritis.
     
    Current Meds:
    • Zoloft 100mgs once per day
    • Clonazapam 0.5mgs up to 4 times daily if needed.
    • Tylenol #4 6 to 8 times daily
    • Hydromorph Contin 1 or two 3mg pills if needed for break through pain.
  •  Try to live life to your fullest even if it tries to bring you down.

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