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actionjack
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   Posted 8/3/2010 3:19 PM (GMT -7)   
I have chronic thoracic back pain. I can not sit upright without severe pain. I cannot stretch my arms over my head. I cannot lean forward without pain. Does this sound similar to anyone? I would appreciate any feedback.

straydog
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   Posted 8/4/2010 8:46 AM (GMT -7)   
Hi ActionJack and welcome to Healing Well's chronic pain forum. I am sorry that you have to be here but glad that you found us.
 
I think many people on here have thoracic pain, especially if they have neck problems, I know I do. Other than saying where your pain is you really did not offer up much info on like if you were injured, or what kind of care you have received for your problem. Perhaps if you would give us some better input here we can offer up some information for you. We are not drs here but we can offer tips and information that may be of some help. Anyway, welcome aboard and I hope you will post some more.
 

crohns disease dx 2002 & small bowel resection, still looking for remission whatever that is, chronic pain 22 yrs, added ulcerative colitis 6-05 to the mix, high blood pressure 28 yrs, aortic heart valve insuffiency, depression, osteoarthritis, osteoporosis lumbar spine, scoliosis lumbar spine, peripheral neuropathy hands & feet, COPD & on oxygen therapy, lupus & psoriasis and psoratic arthritis. Several other health issues just not enough room to list it all. Too many surgeries to list and too many medications to list. Currently on 17 different daily medications. Intrathecal pain pump implanted June 05.

actionjack
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   Posted 8/4/2010 4:10 PM (GMT -7)   
Thanks Pebbles, I appreciate the support.

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   Posted 8/4/2010 4:48 PM (GMT -7)   
Hey there Action Jack
Have you been seen by a Pain Management Doctor? That would be your first
step toward trying to get relief. From there you'll get testing done such as MRI's and CT's
and maybe x-rays...Your PCP (primary care physician) can do some bloodwork
as Vitamin b-12 and Vitamin D deficiencies can lead to worsing of Chronic pain..
Nice to meet you, but sure wish it was under better circumstances...
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   Posted 8/5/2010 4:59 AM (GMT -7)   
Action Jack, have you had any testing done to determine (if any) the cause of your severe back pain? I have bad thoracic/neck pain as well and it can definately interfer with everything you do in your life. I just recently found out that I have scoliosis in my thoracic and I also have two bulging discs in my neck (corticosteroid injections did wonders for my neck/nerve pain!). Usually when my thoracic act up, I use ice packs to reduce any possible inflammation and heat pads to help loosen up the muscles. Sometimes when the pain radiates to my ribs, nothing helps but just lying down and resting for a bit.
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spinal soldier
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   Posted 8/5/2010 9:49 AM (GMT -7)   
Hello actionjack, sorry to hear about your thoratic situation. I have cervical and lumbar issues but have spasmed mid spine muscles. For me the pain meds don't hit that area well but muscle relaxants help. I found skelakin, robaxin, flexiril are the weaker ones. Soma, baclofen, and zanaflex seem to be more effective for me and my freinds with our spinal problems seem to say the same thing. I agree with every one that you need to start with some x-rays to see if you have kyphosis or scoliosis or both. Also im not sure but it seems orthopedic doctor handle the thoracic spine more than neurosurgeons but find yourself a good dianostician.
best wishes
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actionjack
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   Posted 8/5/2010 3:52 PM (GMT -7)   
i have had every injection,sports rehab,chiroprators and physical therapy out there. I've been to three local pain clinics and the Cleveland clinic with no help. I am thinking of John Hopkins, anyone tried there?

Red_34
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   Posted 8/5/2010 7:21 PM (GMT -7)   
So they have NO clue as to why you are in so much pain? Have you seen a neurologist yet?
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actionjack
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   Posted 8/8/2010 3:56 PM (GMT -7)   
I was a paramedic for five years and then a RN for 20+ years, so it has been a gradual thing, getting worse throughout the years. Zanaflex works but it makes me to sleepy on the job. I have seen a Neurologist but the only diagnosis I have gotten is muscle spasm. That is why I a thinking of John Hopkins. I am on MSO4 and muscle relaxants. I am able to function on my job, even if I have to crouch instead of sitting. I would really like a definitive diagnosis.

straydog
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   Posted 8/9/2010 12:24 PM (GMT -7)   
ActionJack, I looked and did not see where you spoke of having MRI's done on your neck and back. If you did, do you know what they showed and do you have a copy of the written reports? It is extremely frustrating to hurt and then no one be able to tell you why. I don't recall if any of the members here have been to John Hopkisn or not. Hopefully someone can give you some answers. Have you ever asked to be referred to an orthopedic for your problem? That may be avenue to explore. Take care.
 

crohns disease dx 2002 & small bowel resection, still looking for remission whatever that is, chronic pain 22 yrs, added ulcerative colitis 6-05 to the mix, high blood pressure 28 yrs, aortic heart valve insuffiency, depression, osteoarthritis, osteoporosis lumbar spine, scoliosis lumbar spine, peripheral neuropathy hands & feet, COPD & on oxygen therapy, lupus & psoriasis and psoratic arthritis. Several other health issues just not enough room to list it all. Too many surgeries to list and too many medications to list. Currently on 17 different daily medications. Intrathecal pain pump implanted June 05.

White Beard
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   Posted 8/9/2010 2:22 PM (GMT -7)   
actionjack

Welcome to Healing Well Chronic Pain Forum! Well I know what your talking about, I have a herniated and torn disk at T-12 and bone spurs and bulging disk at T-8 and T-3! I would have to ask the same question as straydog, Have you had an MRI done of your Thoracic spine? X-rays can show vertebra problems but the MRI is what will show the soft tissue and cartilage and what is going on there! Muscle spasms can be a real problem, and if it is caused by a impinged nerve, from a bad disk, then maybe something can be done to correct the problem. The hardest thing seems to be finding a Doctor that will actually listen and then do the test to find out what is going on! Nursing is terribly hard on your back, and if you stay around on this forum, you will find allot of the people posting on this forum are nurses! So you are in good company here! I do know that my bad thoracic disk ended my nursing career and put me on disability, but I have bad disk everywhere now and have had a couple fusinons in my neck. With another one possibly looming for me in the near future. Anyway your symptoms are familiar, I myself cannot lay flat and I sleep in a fowlers position, and I can not stand up straight, I lean forward and to the right, ( dropped shoulder) I use a cain to help me balance. Allot of the time I feel like someone is squeezing me around the ribs. Like a bear hug or something. Sitting in a recliner is the most comfortable position, but getting up and down in the recliner is often a real bear. I do wish you well! and again Wecome to our forum!

White Beard

actionjack
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   Posted 8/9/2010 4:29 PM (GMT -7)   
The only thing that the MRI showed was a Smorls (sic) node. As with others the only sitting I can do is on a recliner without severe pain. I am on large dose MSO4 and I would like to taper it off. This is a hard way to live, being dependent on medicine.

finallyreallycrazy
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   Posted 8/10/2010 2:18 PM (GMT -7)   
I had numerous MRI's at our local clinic that showed my scoliosis and that was about it. As it got worse and worse and the MRI results never changed, my PCP referred me to a Neurologist that admitted me to the hospital for a battery of tests and then sent me to a Neurosurgeon who sent me for MRI's at the facitlity that linked to his office and you would be amazed at the different things that were found. I have 5 areas of scoliosis that are twisted not curved, every disc is degenerated, pinched nerves and 3 areas of stenosis. I am recovering from a cervical fusion, only to look forward to a fusion in my Thorasic and my lumbar spine as well. The fusion in my neck seems to help some, but it also has inhanced the pain that resides in my thorasic and my lumbar spine. My suggestion is to find a good Neurosurgeon and have someone else to do MRI's......you never know what they are missing!
New MRI's show I have 3 GOOD vertabrae.  The rest are bulging, compressed, protruding or in one of the three spinal stenosis' in my back.  One stenosis in my neck and two in my lower back.  Fibromyalgia, cfs, degenerative bone disease, osteoporosis, osteoarthritis, HORRIBLE memory problems, panic attacks, depression, and muscle cramps that don't stop.
 
Meds:  Oxycontin 60mg 2x day, Effexor xr 300mg 1xday, Robaxian 3xday, Valium 10mg 4xday, Lortab 10mg 4xday, Phenergan PRN, Folic Acid, B12 and B6
 
 
 
 
 

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   Posted 8/12/2010 6:29 AM (GMT -7)   
welcome actionjack i to suffer from chronic back pain have had the nerve blocks, waiting for physical theropy and on pain meds i have multi level DDD, disc herniations and stenosis i have pain everywere sometime i can pinpoint exactly the sight of pain and other times not im wondering something what exactly were the spots that they did the MRI on maybe it radial pain which i have at times for example i have pinched nerve in my thoracic spine but the pain will travel into the lumbar area and down my hips and legs, maybe you can ask you doc to do a full spinal MRI this way you can get a full picture of what;s going this happened to me when i first starting having pain the only MRI a pic of my lumbar spine and at first they said i had bulging disc years later when i had the full scan done they found out it was way worse Good luck and hope you find the answers your looking dont give up. I learned from my experience with my first opinion family doc and im sure there are alot out there like him. They always seem to blame it on muscle spasms, or mechanical issues cause the dont want to take the time to send u for the tests we really need. By the time i finally got through to him about how much pain i was in it was to late and now im on long term disablity with a possiblity that down the road im hoping to have surgery but i was told that no doctor will perform surgery on me. I hope that this helps keep in touch nice meeting u.
  • Current Diagnosis: Multilevel DDD, multiple Herniated and Bulging Disks from the Cervical spine down to the Lumbar spine, Spinal Stenosis and Mild Osteoarthritis.
     
    Current Meds:
    • Zoloft 100mgs once per day
    • Tylenol #4 (6 to 8 times daily)
    • Hydromorph Contin 1 or two 3mg pills if needed for break through pain.

     Try to live life to your fullest even if it tries to bring you down.


    straydog
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       Posted 8/13/2010 12:18 PM (GMT -7)   
    ActionJack I am assuming your drs are saying your condition is long term. Has any of your drs ever spoke of implanting a pain pump? With the pump the patient receives strong concentrated medication but in small doses. Most of the time we end up on less medication than what we took orally. No one wants to rely on medication in order to have a half way decent life but sometimes that is the only way for CP patients. Have you spoken with your dr about trying to taper off of your medication? Do you really think you could function and work and not be on anything for pain? Anyone on this forum with CP will tell you it can be one of the most frustrating turning points in their life. From what little you have spoke of it does not sound like you have any quality life and you are entitled to that regardless. I too have the smorls node in the thoracic spine and my drs all said it was nothing to worry about they do nothing with these. I too found Zannaflex to be effective with muscle spasms but my current PM dr will not rx those to her patients any longer. Take care.
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