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JulietteSuzanne
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   Posted 8/13/2010 5:49 PM (GMT -7)   
I'm fuming so bad right now. I can't believe the number of attitude/uncaring things my new PM doc did during my appt.

I'm too upset to even write about it right now. But to give you an example, he actually "rolled his eyes" at my husband when he told him one of the legitimate symptoms while taking Klonopin in the past. I could not believe it. I felt belittled. I thought we were suppose to tell our doctors of ALL symptoms, even minor or severe from previous meds taken.

I'll write about this entire incident today when I am not so worked up and upset. mad

MsBunky
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   Posted 8/13/2010 6:20 PM (GMT -7)   
I had a similar situation happen a number of years ago. I was so upset, I yelled at the doctor and told him "you're the one who's supposed to be helping me, not make me feel worse. Who am I supposed to count on if I can't count on my doctor?"...and then I stormed out. His office phoned me the next day and asked me to come in. I swallowed my pride and went, expecting to be yelled at, but no, it was like any regular visit, except at the end, my doctor thanked me for giving him a push the day before, even if I personally chickened out of doing it.

Hang in there ElenorRigby - find out if there are other treatments to try. I'm sorry your doctor at this visit was such an @ss...that just kills me.

hugs,
Pam
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mama6
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   Posted 8/13/2010 8:17 PM (GMT -7)   
mad  Elenor,
MAN....I HATE WHEN THEY ACT LIKE THAT!!! My Rhuemy at the last appointment was suppossed to be checking my blood work, and forgot. When I reminded him he said oh yeah that. Looked at it told me test were elevated and see you in 3 months. I said what about the rash, the stiffness, this isn't just fibro. He said literally" anyways, like I said see you in 3 months".My husband said you seem to not be taking the tilting of her fingers serious either..he just looked at my hubby and smirked.."ok then" he said. My hubby stood up said a few choice words, and something about a quack. All the while the Rhuemy just smirked. I had seen him for over a year by then. My scheduled app. was this Thursday and I din't show. Instead I took med release forms for the new Rhuemy I see next week. His nurse said but uhmm aren't you going to be seeing Dr. Green****? I said Anyways, I need a copy of my records sent to my new improved specialist. Probably a little caddy on my part but I'm still mad about it. Stay firm, stand your ground and do not stand for the dr. you hire to treat you like that. Everyone here convinced me of that. Good luck. Heather
Big Hugs, Mama6

DX. with Fibromyalgia, Narcolepsy, Poss. RA or Psoratic Arthritis, Herniated disc 3x in last 7 months
Meds: Nuvigl, Cymbalta, Tramadol

Mother to 5 wonderfull kids. Oldest is 18 and just left the nest for animation school. Youngest just started 2nd grade. So I am crazy, and feeling my age plus some.

White Beard
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   Posted 8/13/2010 8:44 PM (GMT -7)   
ElnorRigby

Just remember when they ( as in any of your Doctors) that they work for you! One way or the other, you are paying their wages, just as you do a mechanic that works on your car, or a plumber that fixs your water pipes, to you they should all be the same, they are a person that you hired to perform a job. What would you do if a plumber started mouthing off to you and acted like that? Some Doctors have big egos, but in reality they are no better than that plumber or mechanic that you hire! So don't let them intimidate you, or get away with the crap! Your their boss, and they are your employee, and you either put them in their place or fire them! I don't know where they get off acting that way to their bosses! ( patients!) I do wish you well with your new employee! smile!

White Beard
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After spending nearly 22 1/2 years in the USAF, I retired in Sept, 1991. I then went back to school and became a licensed RN in 1994, and I worked on Oncology and then a Med Surg Unit, I became disabled in late 1999 and was approved SSD in early 2002!-- DDD, With herniated Disk at T-12 and L4-5. C5-C6 ACDF in Sep 2009, C6-C7 ACDF in Mar 1985, Osteoarthritis, Ulcerative colitis, Chronic Pain, Fibromyalgia, Complex Sleep Apnea, and host of other things to spice up my life!(NOT!) Medications:Oxycontin, Percocet, Baclofen, Sulfasalazine, Metoprolol, Folic Acid, Supplemental O2 at 3lpm with VPAP Adapt SV I am White Beard with a White Beard!

Jim1969
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   Posted 8/13/2010 8:59 PM (GMT -7)   
I can relate. I certainly have had my share of run ins with idiot doctors. The really bad ones don't last long as I fire them pretty quickly. As Whitebeard says they do work for you.



95% of the doctors I have ever went to wanted to know about any allergic reaction or side effect that I had to any medication and they didn't care, at the onset, if it was really an allergy or a side effect. The other 5% want to make a big deal out of differentiating the two but use the same basic health history form that the other 95% use that basically combine the two into one section. That 5% are also the ones who usually don't believe someone can have a reaction to a medication if it isn't listed in the desk reference guide, which they like to pretend they have memorized.
2 confirmed herniated lumbar discs. Spinal Arthritis. Spinal Stenosis, diabetic peripheral nueropathy.

Mrs. Dani
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   Posted 8/14/2010 7:37 AM (GMT -7)   

 

  Dear Elenor,

    I can only imagine what has happened to make someone as calm and collected, as you, so angry. I am worried for you a great deal. Please, come sit down and talk about it if you can. *warm hugg*

....the one thing I think people tend to forget is that we "hire" these doctors to provide a service for us. If a doctor or medical professional is unable to meet our needs, then move on to another who can provide you with the care you NEED and DESERVE!

     I am terribly worried for you and I really hope you can come and sit to talk with us about this. You are always in our hearts here!

*Warm Hugg*
     dani


 
TWO roads diverged in a yellow wood
And sorry I could not travel both
And be one traveler, long I stood
 
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JulietteSuzanne
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   Posted 8/14/2010 11:31 AM (GMT -7)   
Thanks so much for the advice ya'll. You have no idea how much your words (thanks MsBunky, Dani, Jim1969, and mama6!) and for the awesome analogy (thanks White Beard!) have helped me to deal with this. I read all the replies to my husband and he was amazed at how much this forum is helpful, smart, and caring. I can always count on the wonderful people here who have experienced the same thing or can just RELATE to it by simply being in chronic pain themselves. We all root for each other in so many wonderful ways on this forum. :-)

The reality that the doctors are OUR employees and that WE HIRE THEM for a service was very empowering to me. That right there, made me quit going from a blubbering and sniveling crying 41 yr. old adult last night who let some jackrabitt a$ doctor get to me --- to a very confident and resolute woman who will not take unprofessional and unnecessary crap from a doctor anymore.

I don't need to even re-hash the entire ordeal from Friday. Ya'lls advice has given me a new confidence the next time I step foot in this doctors door. It's a catch-22 because his treatment is actually helping me, so I have to keep going to him for awhile.

Anyways--
I still work for a living. I work for a living IN PAIN every single day (well except summers!) Therefore, I work VERY HARD for my money. Knowing that when I go to a doctor, I am PAYING them from my hard earned money to try their best to help me and to do it in a civilized manner is something I wont take for granted anymore.

IMHO -- I think a lot of these PM docs need to revisit their mission statements and the vital Hippocratic Oath from med school.

As a cautionary tale of how a persons attitude can make an experience good or bad, this occurred last week and it is such a contrast to how I was treated at the doctor's and what I took away from the experience at both places...

I took my daughter to see Toy Story 3 last week (cute movie, so emotional lol I had no idea!) After the movie, we went to Kids Foot Locker. Josie wanted those new Sketcher Twinkle Toes shoes. I remembered being in the store for well over an hour, trying on all different styles and sizes. I remember leaving the store with a mental check of '''coming back''' next time we were out shoe shopping because of how patient and kind the retail sales lady was. She really wanted to find us the right shoe and walk away as happy customers

(hmm why don't some doctors have this quality about them?) The girl most likely gets paid minimum wage but never once did I feel her getting tired of dealing with us, giving up, dismissing us, or ROLLING HER EYES at us when we suggested that a certain shoe didn't fit right. What it all boils down to is -- She had more class, compassion, professionalism and a love for her job than this PM doctor did!!

Baffling.

Jim1969
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   Posted 8/14/2010 4:15 PM (GMT -7)   
No matter what you are talking about the one thing that seems to really make a difference is "does the person truly like their job".

You see it with everyone from doctors to waitresses. If they truly seem to like their job then they more often than not take a real "care" about what they are doing and it shows in the quality of their work. Sure there may be aspects of what they are doing they don't like, but if they like the majority of what they have to do it shows. It also shows if they are burned out or simply hate most everything about what they are doing.

Then again you also get people who are "confused" about what their job is truly about. For doctors, nurses, etc it is not about the medicine or the big paycheck, it is really about the patients. If a person is working at Wal Mart it is not about getting the merchandise on the shelf it is about the customer. If you are a teacher it is not about the subject it is about the student.

The best people in any profession are the ones who know and remember what they are really there for and also like what they are doing.
2 confirmed herniated lumbar discs. Spinal Arthritis. Spinal Stenosis, diabetic peripheral nueropathy.

antbuggey
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   Posted 8/15/2010 9:10 AM (GMT -7)   
Dear Elenor,

I am so sorry that you were treated poorly by your doctor....that is so ridiculous! I am sharing a link that I have bookmarked on my computer about reasons you should fire your doctor! I have to remind myself often that my doctor works for me!! Take care of you and get a doctor that treats you with respect!

Hugs,
Beckey

http://arthritis.about.com/od/buildyourhealthcareteam/tp/fireyourdoctor.htm
Spinal Stenosis L3/L4, L4/L5 & L5/S1 with Nerve Impingement ***Fibromyalgia***TMJ***GERD***Severe Depression***VERY Large Cyst Right Ovary causing mild twisting, Small Cysts Left Ovary & 3 Large Cysts Uteru****Possible RA

Medications - MS-Contin, Cymbalta, Famotidine and currently Prednisone

Mrs. Dani
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   Posted 8/15/2010 9:57 AM (GMT -7)   
 
  Dear Elenor,
 
     Good morning *hugg* Hopefully you are having a nice lazy morning right now. I know I am. ...though come to think of it I probably look really silly in eeyore p-jamas and no teeth..... smhair   Who cares! Im taking it easy today! Hopefully, you are too *hugg*
 
     Did I ever tell you about the first pain management doctor I was referred to by my primary care in the beginning? Well! This one was a peice of work!
 
     ...I had a scary incendent in my back yard and there was no denying that whatever was going on in my back was getting serious. So, I went down to see my primary care and he sent me to a "Pain management doctor" waaay down in albuquerque (I live in a tiny town 1.5 hours away). So, I get there and this guy breezes in, starts pushing really hard on my spine all the while saying "pain is a part of getting older" (I was 27) and I literally had to swollow down vomit he was pressing so hard. He didnt order a single test, no blood test, no images, nothing! Then he says "Obviously there is nothing wrong with you.". No kidding.
 
     I just as calm as apple pie said "I wish that were the case. But I didnt drive 1.5 hours to see you so you could try to convince me nothing is wrong." He laffed at me. Not they was my husband or friends giggle at me. Just a rather spooky, deliberate laff. So, I said "thank you for your time. Have a pleasant day."  Then left.
 
     I stopped off at my primary cares office and he orders X rays on the spot, blood work, you name it. I spent entire afternoon there. The girls were fine though, thank goodness the staff helped with snacks and activities.
 
     Any case, I had to go back down to the same office to see someone known as a spine specialist that same night. In the same office as "Mr. Smug" after closing hours. The new doctor begins treating me right away. They are all caring and kind as can be.
 
     When I was getting wheeled in for one of my cortisteroid series (then it was only a series of 6) Mr.Smug asks to talk with me. In front of everyone he apologizes. He tells me how terribly sorry he is.  Inside I wanted to BURST and tell him exactly how many ways he could could take a leap. But, I didnt. I just said that "I understand.... But, please, do some tests before treating anyone like that ever again." It only took a simple x ray for the doctors to see that something was terribly wrong with my spine.
 
      He walked with me the whole way into the procedure room. Told me all about his daughter and how angry he would be if someone treated her the way he treated me. I did want to talk, to know more about him. But, I had a horrible case of the blues that day and didnt feel like chatting. Eventually he went away. The assistants and nurses talk about him for a bit, but I didnt feel like re hashing out his apologies. I had too much on my mind.
 
     I guess we all run into a "Mr. Smug" at some point. I wish they didnt exist. But they do. For what ever reason there is always a nurse over stepping her boundries. Always a doctor that forgetts his pourpose. Always a nosey receptionist that forgetts you are far too sick to be chatty.... I think though, we all have to remember that we pay them. They don't pay us. They certinaly don't struggle to pay our monthly insurance payments.
 
     My "motto sentence" when I run into someone who is over stepping their boundries is "I have about 1000 things I would rather do and spend my hard earned money on."
 
    Most of all I am terribly sorry you were treated so badly. They have just wasted valuable time and resources that you cannot afford to loose any more of.  I know this will likly be costly to fix and for that I am sorry. I do hope you can find a new doctor without too much of a hassle... though likly this doctor has caused a month long headache you really don't deserve to have to deal with! Hang in there and Stay Strong!
 
*hugg*
  dani

 
TWO roads diverged in a yellow wood
And sorry I could not travel both
And be one traveler, long I stood
 
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