chronic oxycodone shortage

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nextime22
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   Posted 1/14/2011 11:26 AM (GMT -7)   
mad   I'm reading on this forum going back to 2009 about an oxycodone shortage.  It's January 14, 2011, and yesterday in NYC, I could not get my prescription filled.  That alone is amazing.  Somehow my regular pharmacy had some, but not the full supply.  They told me they would give me the pills they had, but could not tell me when they would be getting the remainder (half) of the pills.  I am rationing myself, but am wondering why is there always a shortage of this medication?  Is the DEA putting rations on oxycodone because they think too many addicts are getting their hands on it? 
Something has to be done to stop the US government from living our lives and stop regulating what they think is "bad".  I want them out of my business, and need the medication to keep working, because there is no program that will help me if I stop working.  SS disability is a joke, you may be able to pay basic bills, but you make too much money to qualify for any sort of medical insurance, and you make too little to buy your own while waiting the two years for Medicare to kick in.  I don't want to become a burden on the taxpayers, although there are folks out there who claim to be "mentally ill" after coming here from another country in order to get SSI.  This is why Americans who paid into the SS system don't have a chance of seeing what is rightfully thiers.  I could go on and on. 
Does anyone know when this chronic shortage of oxycodone will be over if ever?  Thanks

Trudy2
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   Posted 1/14/2011 11:38 AM (GMT -7)   
I have been on oxycodone for pain since 2004 or 2005. Quite a while back there was a severe shortage of the pills in most strengths.

So far this year and in 2010, I only had one problem. Each manufacturer is only allowed to make so much of the drug each year per FDA guidelines. The time resets itself every January 1st. Back in December when I got mine filled, I had to take 2 different generics in the same bottle as the first company could not produce and sell anymore until January 1st. My pharmacy is aware of the rules and just orderded in a shipment of the same medication from a different manufacturer. I believe this is the only shortage that has been going on in recent months.

Hope this helps!
Trudy

nextime22
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   Posted 1/14/2011 12:11 PM (GMT -7)   
Trudy2, I so appreciate you responding to my post. I have been taking this medicine since about 2008. I think I've experienced 2 shortages to date. Your explanation makes sense. It seems to be all the pharmacies that are having the difficulty, though. I have had to have 2 different generics in the same bottle of some of my other meds, not controlled substances either, so I don't think it's that uncommon. I do hope your medication is helping you get through your days. So many people don't have a clue what a chronic pain issue is. Being in the situation myself, I've become much more compassionate toward other people's complaints. God bless you. Dianne

All-Seeing Eye
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   Posted 1/14/2011 3:10 PM (GMT -7)   
The FDA recently changed the formula and many people are switching meds because of it. I have a strong feeling that purdue is going to recall these soon as they will be losing a lot of money due to this change. I would think that a new set of generics should be available on the market in the near future.

For what it's worth, I picked up a prescription of 15mg OxyContin (name brand) two days ago and it is still the old formulation.

Jazzie9444
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   Posted 1/14/2011 4:40 PM (GMT -7)   
I also have tried to call my pharmacy and my roxycodone is not in stock. She told me that they ordered it but it came back that the manufacturer is behind schedule. Why does this happen?

nextime22
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   Posted 1/14/2011 6:39 PM (GMT -7)   
Trudy2 said...
Each manufacturer is only allowed to make so much of the drug each year per FDA guidelines. The time resets itself every January 1st. Back in December when I got mine filled, I had to take 2 different generics in the same bottle as the first company could not produce and sell anymore until January 1st. My pharmacy is aware of the rules and just orderded in a shipment of the same medication from a different manufacturer. I believe this is the only shortage that has been going on in recent months.

Jazzie, this is why it is happening.

Jim1969
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   Posted 1/14/2011 7:01 PM (GMT -7)   
Lets not forget that Purdue Pharmacuticals, the maker and patent holder of Percocet and Oxycontin and other oxycodone medications won their lawsuits against companies making generic versions. This of course was after the FDA issued stop orders to most of the makers of generic oxycodone drugs. As of right now there are only 1 or 2 companies actually making generic oxycodone meds under license from Purdue.

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   Posted 1/14/2011 9:30 PM (GMT -7)   
 Purdue reformulataed the oxycontin and now there is not supposed to be any generic available, other than what has already been manufactured, and waiting to ship from suppliers to their stores. I was not able to get this med at Walmart, and was told it would no longer be available. I have found it for the past three months, and each month before I get the script to fill, I call to see if it is available on a monthly basis. Purdue did put out some coupons like for a savings of $70, I believe, that can be used monthly until March. But, oxycontin is so expensive , that does not pay much.  My physcian wants to use oxycontin, but if it becomes unavailable generically I plan to switch meds, as my insurance changed my co pays to $50-$250 monthly for non formulary name brand meds. I can buy a months worth of generic pain med for $5. BIG difference.  It was reformulated to make it less easy to crush and abuse it. This is what happens when people choose to abuse meds for uses other than what they were intended for.

Jazzie9444
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   Posted 1/15/2011 6:36 PM (GMT -7)   
Hi Nexttime22,

Thanks for the info. I need to fill my prescription on Tuesday and as of now can't find oxycodone IR anywhere. I do take oxycontin and the roxycodone is used for break through pain. I don't know where else to call (which pharmacy) to find the roxycodone or generic oxycodone IR. I agree with purplereading. They changed the oxycontin so that people who use it to get high can't. They ruin it for people that need these meds.

purplereading
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   Posted 1/20/2011 11:00 PM (GMT -7)   
Jazzie, Try Walgreens, sometimes they have some dosages.

nicolecd11
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   Posted 2/1/2011 2:42 PM (GMT -7)   
I recently ran into this problem. All I hear is "we are in back order"!!! Although that is a well known pharmacy "walgreens"around the US. I live in FL and from miami up to past the treaseure coast thats all I hear. Then again, I here that some other places do have them, like Win Dixie, and Publix  but because I go to a doctor out of my county, the pharmacies in my county will not fill my prescription of rocycodone. Its a joke. The pharmacies say its the DEA coming there telling them not to. I get there are people out there that abuse them, but there are also people out there who have ligit reasons like myself who now have to suffer! If there is a shortage why do other  pharmacies have no problem getting them. Also its past January, its a whole new year, so I would think the manufacturer's would be back to making them again. I just am so upset by this right now. You can't even fill this prescription without being judged also, may I add.

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Trudy2
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   Posted 2/2/2011 8:29 AM (GMT -7)   
I have not run into a problem with a shortage at all. I am in Ohio, so it may be different. I go to a local mom and pop pharmacy and I am on generic oxycodone IR 30mg. I know in the past when I have had a problem, I usually go to a Walgreens and they will have it in stock more often than other pharmacies. Especially the ones attached to the teaching hospitals that have a pain clinic on premises.

My pain doc is okay with me not using the same pharmacy to get my meds filled everytime. I usually use 2 different pharmacies and have had to occasionally search one out that has something in stock and it has never been a problem.

If you continue to not be able to get your B/T med filled, I would call your docs office and explain the problem. They should be able to direct you to a pharmacy that may have them in stock or change your B/T med to something else that is readily available.

Trudy
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   Posted 2/2/2011 8:49 AM (GMT -7)   
Hi Trudy, I just hopped over from Lyme forum and read this post.

What else would replace the roxy?

I don't use time release. The roxy 5mg is perfect drug for my pain but not the best in terms of addiction and depression.

Nothing else gets rid of this pain. 100mg fentynol patch is useless.
These roxy 5mg are powerful.

So are they making some new version because of FDA? Does it have new side effects.
What is name of it.

Like we don't have enough problems. Now this.

Have you gotten chemo for the leukemia?
My Mom had that. It's no picnic.

Take care and thanks for the heads up.
20 yrs of doctors . DEC. 2009 tested positive for lyme, bartonella, ehrichiosis, HHPV6, chlamadyal pneumonia .
parasites :strongylides, diaoebia fragialis, hook worm.

Hep C ....fibro, rhumatoidal,depression,

grainofsalt
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   Posted 2/2/2011 11:02 AM (GMT -7)   
I am really sorry to hear about the FDA decision, but maybe in the long run it'll be a good thing. Maybe they will actually leave people alone. I tried to go with a weaker opioid for a while after getting a very minor surgical procedure that relieved pain by 50 percent for a few months. I switched to codeine, but once the nerves started coming back to life, i had to go back onto the the stronger opioid again, which is nucynta (tapentadol) 75 mgs. For me its works far better than codeine hands down and my doctor doesn't want to prescribe me oxycontin at my age being in only moderate to moderatelty severe pain (i agree with her, its just not worth the risk for me when i can get about 80 percent releif with nucynta).

Nucynta works great for me but the problem is, it seems to not work so well for a lot of people and that honestly makes me sad. Whats worse is that a lot of people would pay about 300$ per fill if their insurance didn't cover it. I pay 20 bucks but I am lucky to have a pro plus package with my job and insurance company. I got my fill today and looked at the savings for a 90 count "you saved 249.00", and my bottle is about 2.5 inches tall. The stuff is just too expensive and while they are coming out with new medications that are more potent and have higher MOR action, its likely that they will also be schedule II and atleast as pricey.

Has anyone tried the new subutex patches that are only a schedule 3, thus refillable and maybe a little more FDA and doctor friendly? Hopefully its not ultra expensive but I have a feeling those are expensive as well.

Sadly the best medication for the price seems to be oxycodone. If you can tolerate the effects, then id go with tapentadol for lower addiction risk and slower tolerance build, but many people cannot tolerate its NRI effects. Again hopefully the FDA will lay of OC for a while.
MRI revealed disc bulge and test injections revealed RA. Radio Freq procedures have decreased the severity of pain by about 1/3rd. currently on 75 mgs of Nucynta (tapentadol) 3 time per day. Works as well as 10 mgs of hydrocodone, less addictive, no tylenol, but schedule II. Also take Alieve OFTEN, much better than Ibu.

quietappraiser
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   Posted 2/15/2011 9:04 AM (GMT -7)   
In Florida another contribution to the difficulty of finding these drugs are the cattle call "pain clinics" setting up across the state. People are coming from as far away as South Carolina. They start arriving around 5:00am, waiting in line for a one time MRI, burned to a cd or dvd which shows back problems, and then a monthly doctors appointment. Initial cost is about $1500.00 for the MRI and a $500.00 doctors visit, which is monthly for a new script. The script is for pills in the multiple of hundreds of pills, enough for the "patients" use and plenty to sell so you can afford to come back the following month for the doctors visit. These setups are often in old, past their prime, shopping centers with the MRI machine out back in a trailer. "Appointments" are usually a weekend affair. Order is maintained by huge security guards, it's easy to determine who is an employee & who is a patient. You see a doc just long enough for a script renewal & you are through, $500.00/visit. These are the pill mills that have made it so difficult for those of us that needed or need relief, and why there is a shortage of the medication for legitimate users. Cities as large as Jacksonville Florida will have no pills left after these illegitimate patients go out to fill their scripts. From Jacksonville these patients may have to go as far south as Orlando to find pharmacies that can fill the script. The saddest part is the local police know exactly what is going on, and when you read in the news that police "busted" a pill mill, it is not one like I just described. They are focusing on the "gray area" pain clinics which may be over prescribing to some patients, but are legitimately treating others. The flagrantly abusive clinics are protected and I don't know why.

And to end this post; NO I haven't been a patient of one of these practices, but I do know someone who drove an aquaintance to one and I saw the script and the MRI.
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   Posted 2/15/2011 9:54 AM (GMT -7)   
 
    I have had no problem in getting my mothly dosage here in KS. You would think that there would be some sort of dosage cap per patient on a class II med. I'm amazed that they can do this, and get enough for several months worth. shakehead
 
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   Posted 2/15/2011 10:09 AM (GMT -7)   

 

  Holy Toledo!!!!!!

    I just had my annual MRI done and my out of pocket expense paid my entire yearly maximum out of pocket! The full cost of the MRI was over $9,000.00. I am glad I got my yearly max of out of the way.... Still! 1,500.00 for an MRI is so cheap!

  

Here is more information.......

~~~~>  http://www.myfloridahouse.gov/Sections/Bills/billsdetail.aspx?BillId=43950

~~~~>   http://jacksonville.com/news/crime/2010-10-01/story/florida%E2%80%99s-new-pill-mill-law-goes-effect-today

~~~>     http://floridaindependent.com/9273/pain-clinics-challenge-floridas-pill-mill-bill-in-federal-court

Highlights of new Florida law

A law (SB 2272) taking effect today aims to better regulate doctors in the pain management industry with requirements including the following:

- Only physicians can own clinics and prescribe controlled substances to its patients.

- Pain management doctors must have relevant specialized training, starting in 2012.

- Careful records must be kept to show patients were examined on days they got prescriptions, and that anyone who paid cash without insurance doesn’t get more than a 72-hour dose of controlled substances from a doctor’s office

The law also authorizes the Department of Health to put a ceiling on the number of prescriptions any clinic can write in a 24-hour period, although no limit has been set yet.


 


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   Posted 2/15/2011 10:22 AM (GMT -7)   

 

    Good information Dani! Thank you for looking it up for us!

      Maybe the new rules will help keep most of them honest now.

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   Posted 2/15/2011 11:08 AM (GMT -7)   

 

     Well.. yes. But. Suppose you were a patient that, for whatever reason, doesn't have health insurance. Maybe older man, waiting on Disability or any number of circumstances, for example. That is where the law needs to be re-worded (is that a word? LOL) so that real patients do not get punished to.

     All in all, I am proud they are finally fighting the epidemic. It must have been a long and arduous process to weed out the politicians that were profiting from the "Pill Mills". Lets be honest, someone had their fingers in the pie. Otherwise, the would never have exploded in profits for so long.

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   Posted 2/15/2011 11:18 AM (GMT -7)   
 
 
   Yes! So true! How silly and selfesh of me not to think of that. Point well taken!
 
        So yes, I guess there is still some work that needs to be done in the laws on this.
 
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   Posted 2/22/2011 4:44 PM (GMT -7)   
Well, went to Walgreens today and was told the total amount they had of oxycontin was 80 pills and there would be no more generic oxycontin or oxcodone. My script was for 90, took the 80 for the same price, and got a three month script to send to the mail in pharmacy. First will check the cost.

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   Posted 3/21/2011 12:44 PM (GMT -7)   
  I had a  severe car accident in 2002.  My spine was crushed and I was very lucky to eventually be able to walk again.  It took six years of physical therapy, but I did it.  I suffer in severe chronic pain every day.  My doctor prescribed me oxycontin the extended release and oxycodone the short-acting to deal with my break-through pain.  Usually from doing my exercises I have to do every day religiously.  I have had an increasingly hard time getting my medication.  I was told several YEARS ago it would be a temporary shortage and not to worry.  That was completely untrue not only has the shortage not gone away, it has gotten much, much worse.  I sometimes have to go to 10 or 20 pharmacies just to get my monthy supply.  It is horrible.  I feel like some kind of junkie hunting for a fix.  I have legitimate pain issues and I go to a very reputable doctor, not one of these so called "pill mills"  I get dirty looks from pharmacy staff when I tell them that I really need the medication and they can never tell me when it will be in or if they will get it at all.  My regular pharmacy used to always have them or know when they will get them in.  Now even they are having problems.  I know that there are a lot of people abusing them and  the FDA/DEA is trying to crack down on that, but what am I supposed to do?  Just suffer.  I don't feel the government has any right telling you or your doctor that you have to suffer in pain because some degenerate can't control themselves.  What kind of country is this where the drug addict has more rights than the chroniclly ill?  Something else has to be done to fix this problem other than limiting how much of the medication can be sold.  What they should do is go after the doctors, not the pharmacies.  If there are doctors writing scripts for people who don't REALLY need them, then they should be shut down.  Not limit the manufactor or the pharmacy from getting the drug for its chroniclly ill patients.  Why don't they put restrictions on the doctors to show what is wrong with this person and do they actually need this medication.  I don't know what exactly to do, but what they are doing ISN'T working.  I cannot even walk if I don't have my medication because the pain is so great.  I have had my doctor switch my medicaion many times to see if there was something else I could take so  I would not have to deal with this shortage problem, but nothing worked as well and I always had to go back to the oxycodone.  I would be open to trying anything that might help, but so far nothing else  helps as much.   There has got to be sone other way.   If anyone out there has any ideas I would love to hear them.   Thanks

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   Posted 3/21/2011 12:48 PM (GMT -7)   

 

      Hello Noelle68!

              I'm going to ask a favor of you! Would you pretty please repost this under a new topic and paste this there in it. We do this so the members will recieve a proper introduction of you. I asure you, that you will get a much better responce this way.

         Also, Welcome to the forum! smilewinkgrin

 

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   Posted 3/21/2011 5:16 PM (GMT -7)   
  Dear Noelle,
 
    Good afternoon. My name is Dani and it is very nice to meet you. Welcome to the Healing Well Community. As you can see, we have a great support group here. Though we are always sad to hear of someone who is suffering from chronic pain... we are always glad to welcome someone new to the group!
 
    I am sorry to hear of all the medication trouble you have to endure. The "Pill Mill" bill is for cracking down on "dirty pain clinics". So, they are going after the doctors. I posted many links that fully explain the laws and what has happened as a result.
 
     I am terribly sorry you are having a hard time filling your prescription. Is there anyway you can get your medications filled and delivered online? Have you ever though of going to a large pharmacy, like Wal Mart? Also, this should become increasingly available....
 
 
     If you have some time.. we would really like to welcome you to the forum. One way to do that is to post an "Introduction" topic. Tell us a bit about yourself and what your pain stems from (just like your reply here) so that way we can have a topic just about you.  :-)  
 
    Again, it was very nice to meet you!
 
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   Posted 3/21/2011 11:31 PM (GMT -7)   
hi i was just told by my pharmicist that theres a shortage on my 30mg oxycodone ir i called my dr office & they confirmed does anyone now why or how long this is gonna last?? what could substitute for this med?? not that i want to change no side effects & keeps pain level down been on it 4 two yrs & im very scared HELP!!!!!
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