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Miss Blossom
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   Posted 3/18/2011 8:30 PM (GMT -7)   
Is anyone out there who understands???

I have had frozen shoulder in my left arm since May 2010, but it was undiagnosed until October 2010. At that time I had also developed tendinitis and bursitis in my right arm from overcompensation. By December 2010 I was suspicious that I had developed frozen shoulder in the right arm as well. It was confirmed by my doctor and physiotherapist by the end of January 2011....so 2 frozen shoulders it is cry

I am only 34 years old, but because I have had type 1 diabetes for 26 years I am at risk. Stupid diabetes. I go to physio 2-3 times per week, massage every few weeks and daily stretching. Acupuncture flared my condition. I have had cortisone shots, and arthrogram in both shoulders (which they couldn't finish because I couldn't bear he pain). I have consulted with the surgeon, but he said he won't do surgery until I have had the condition for at least 2 years. He said it would just come back and surgery is to high of a risk for a diabetic before we let the condition follow its natural course.

So that means at least another 14 months of pain for the left arm and 22 more months of pain for the right - IF it hasn't gone away I might get to endure a painful surgical proceedure. I actually think I could handle it if it wasn't for the lack of sleep. I haven't slept through the night in months. I'm not going to lie - I am feeling a little bit sorry for myself. I think I am becoming depressed.

I guess I just want to reach out to people who understand and maybe get though this together... sad

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   Posted 3/19/2011 12:10 AM (GMT -7)   
I'm sorry Miss Blossom.

Due to malformations related to my scoliosis, my left shoulder locks up on me and that arm is weak, with radiating pain and tingling in the fingers. I haven't found anything to unlock it and just have to walk around with my hand tucked in my shirt like Napoleon. I tried a cortisone shot a few years ago, but it didn't help.

Perhaps try a different physical therapist. I've been to about a dozen and only 2 were any good.
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   Posted 3/19/2011 12:39 AM (GMT -7)   
Hi Blossom~

I'm so sorry for the misery you are suffering through. We are always here for you and feel free to email me if you want to chat with someone. Just click on the little envelope over there <--- under my name and it brings up an email form.

I don't doubt that you feel depressed. It's very common for chronic pain people to suffer from depression as well as not getting good pain treatment. You don't have to apologize for feeling sorry for yourself. At one time or another we all have felt that way. Just look at all we have to endure.
Have you talked to your doctor about how you're feeling emotionally? It's a very hard thing to do .... I fought it for a couple of years longer than I should have. Now I take a low dose of an antidepressant and it helps me feel much more like the me I used to be.

Also, are your doctors giving you anything to treat the pain you are having? There's no reason you should be suffering this much,9unless you can't take medication for some other reasons like reactions to them).. There are lots of good types of pain medications and the doctor(s) should be keeping you much more comfortable that you seem to be. This is something else to bring up with your doctor. You're not asking for anything unreasonable. None of them would endure what you do without medications, why should you??

Warm hugs and please keep in touch!
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billyf27
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   Posted 3/19/2011 6:11 AM (GMT -7)   
I have 2 frozen shoulders also. I can't lift them over my head.  It is linked to nerve injuries and a herniated disc in my neck. I had them for years now. Injections help.

Miss Blossom
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   Posted 3/19/2011 6:16 AM (GMT -7)   
Hi Chutz and cogito,

Thanks for your messages. Its really nice to know I am not alone. I am not an unsympathetic person, but I don't think I really understood chronic pain before now. I just thought you hurt, you take medicine, pain goes away. When it comes back you do it again. I mean that sounds like an awful cycle as well, but what I didn't realize is that the pain doesn't go away. At best it takes the edge off.

I really like my physiotherapist. I have seen others when she is on holidays and she is my favorite thus far. I have recently started seeing a psychiatrist (my initiative). His expertise is with diabetes, so he knows a lot of the things that I struggle with in general and he is very comforting. He is consulting a pain specialist and I have asked him to speak with my sports medicine doctor.

I am taking celebrex and tramadol, but quite frankly find them ineffective. I use tylenol with codiene and a generic form of robax as needed for the resulting muscle pain in my arms, shoulder and neck. When I told my sports doctor the meds weren't working she said not to take them, but didn't give me anything else. I am still working full-time, so I think she is hesitant to give me anything stronger. She said the better the pain relieve the higher the side effects. It kills me that we can give a human a heart transplant, but we still haven't figured out how to treat pain.

I see my psychiatrist tomorrow and he should have a new "cocktail" for me to try. He wants me to take an antidepressant because of the depressed mood and apparently the research shows that antidepressants help with relieving pain. He didn't want me to leave last time without a prescription, but all the antidepressants interacted with the celebrex and tramadol. He wanted to consult with a pain specialist and my doc before making changes. I told him that I wasn't happy with what I was taking and he is going to advocate for me.

Its nice to hear that its ok for me to ask for better meds. I asked once with no results. It made me feel like a drug addict. I felt ashamed that I needed something more than the doc seemed to think I needed. The psychiatrist is going to try hypnosis on Monday, so between the new meds and the hypnosis I am remaining hopeful that I have some relief this week.

Stay tuned...

Thanks,
Cheryl

Miss Blossom
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   Posted 3/19/2011 7:18 AM (GMT -7)   
Hi billyf27,

Apparently we are the anomaly! 2 frozen shoulders at the same time is suppose to be quite rare. I had cortisone injections. It felt good for a day or two, but likely only because the joint was lubricated. The steroid had no long term effect.

I also had an arthrogram. This procedure is not offered every where. There are only 2 doctors in Toronto who do it. I was on the waiting list for 5 months. Basically they give you local freezing and inject dye, cortisone and saline to tear the adhesion and scar tissue. They use ultrasound/x-ray to see where the fluid is going to ensure they don't tear anything important. They completed on my right shoulder, but couldn't finish on the left. The freezing didn't take, so I simply couldn't tolerate the pain. Regardless, it didn't improve the left or the right side.

I was disappointed about the arthrogram because my doctor said most people feel much better after the procedure.

Are you able to work? I am reaching my limits. I can manage the pain during the day, but the pain at night has completely ruined my ability to sleep. I am having trouble coping now because I am so tired. I am agitated and have started crying every day. Not exactly the reputation I want at work...

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   Posted 3/19/2011 7:39 AM (GMT -7)   
I am not able to work. I started with CTS surgeries and ended up with Thoricic Output Syndrome. I have many nerve injuries. Do you have TOS also?
 
I recieve injections of numbing agents and other medications due to pain in shoulders/ neck/ back and hands/arms.
 
I had to give up many things due to frozen shoulders.
 
 

Miss Blossom
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   Posted 3/19/2011 8:18 AM (GMT -7)   
I have tendinitis and bursitis in both shoulders as well as adhesive capsulitis (frozen shoulder). My tendinitis and bursitis is apparently "mild", so I am not sure if it was the cause. Frozen Shoulder is insipid in people with diabetes, so it can occur with no underlying conditions. i have been told it just has to run its course, but it should get better in time...

I have also given up a lot of things. I have trouble with dressing myself, can't style my hair or put on make up. I have gained weight and had to buy new clothes that I hate and don't suit me. I couldn't wear my winter jacket this year because I couldn't get it on. It really sucks.

What is Thoricic Output Syndrome?

billyf27
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   Posted 3/19/2011 8:26 AM (GMT -7)   
Thoracic outlet syndrome is a rare condition that involves pain in the neck and shoulder, numbness and tingling of the fingers, and a weak grip. The thoracic outlet is the area between the rib cage and collar bone.

Miss Blossom
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   Posted 3/19/2011 8:33 AM (GMT -7)   
That sounds awful. I think that is what my ****su therapist thought I had. He thought that or frozen shoulder but said i was too young for frozen shoulder. I guess he didn't know about the link between frozen shoulder and diabetes. He was the one who encouraged me to see a doctor. He felt strongly that i needed a diagnosis.

So the TOS lead to frozen shoulder? That is the other thing I have come to learn about pain and the body. Either nothing is wrong or everything is wrong! There is so much co-morbidity between conditions. Its crazy!

Miss Blossom
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   Posted 3/19/2011 8:34 AM (GMT -7)   
that was not a bad word!

damouthy1
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   Posted 3/19/2011 9:17 AM (GMT -7)   
Hey Cheryl, apparently somebody thought it was a bad word...lol I was reading your post and had to laugh that it got starred out. Anyway, I don't have any issues with my shoulders so I cannot offer any info but I did want to welcome you to Healing Well.

We have a wonderful family here to lend support when you need it, or just listen if you want to rant. It's really nice to talk to others who know what we deal with on a daily basis. I hope you keep coming back and keep us updated on your situation. Take care.
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Miss Blossom
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   Posted 3/19/2011 9:37 AM (GMT -7)   
Thanks Shannon!
 
It seems like a great community so far. I am typically a positive, up-beat person, but the pain and lack of sleep are taking a toll. I feel like I have tried everything. I was doing more research on frozen shoulder online last night when I stumbled onto this forum. I figured it certainly couldn't hurt me to be involved. I could learn something new or share some experiences - maybe if I can help someone else my pain will have more purpose.
 
Cheers,
Cheryl

billyf27
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   Posted 3/19/2011 10:48 AM (GMT -7)   
Cheryl,

Good TOS forum here

http://neurotalk.psychcentral.com/forumdisplay.php?f=24&order=desc

Miss Blossom
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   Posted 3/19/2011 11:29 AM (GMT -7)   
I googled TOS it sounds very painful. There are some similarities between TOS what I experience, but I don't have tingling, bluish skin, swollen arms etc. My pain is pretty classic frozen shoulder.

Do you think the CTS was a misdiagnosis? Was it TOS all along? My mom had CTS in both wrists. She had sugery in both and only one got better. I know from her experiences how debilitating it can be.

I was referred to a surgeon, but I haven't suffered long enough yet to qualify for surgery lol. Finding that out was both a blessing and a curse. Even though I didn't want sugery I was hoping for some relief.

Mrs. Dani
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   Posted 3/19/2011 12:06 PM (GMT -7)   

 

     Dear Blossom,
   
     Hehehe!  Isn't it strange how that happens? The forum is designed to put *** in place of a pre determined list of "bad words" so many times harmless words get *** put in them. It happens to me a lot!

     I am so sorry to read about what you have had to live with. It was hard to read about what the surgeon told you. 14 months.... when each day feels more like 5 days... 14 months is an eternity. You should really press your doctor to help combat your sleeplessness. That will help your overall pain during the day if they can get you to have at least a good 4+ hr rest. I am right at 4 hr finally, it makes a world of difference in my morning pain levels.

     With regards to clothing and hair.. I have had to change how I dress as well. It gets really tricky. I am one heck of an internet shopper now. My mother in law makes me skirts as well. Do you know anyone who likes to sew or a good tailor who can give you discounts?

     I have a hard time with my hair as it is very long. For some reason my stubborn side refuses to cut it.. it makes drying it straight really tricky. Do you have long hair or short hair? If it is short, perhaps one of those drying caps might help? If it is long, perhaps having it straightened (chemically straightened) will help, so you just brush it and do not have to dry it. I need to have my hair straightened again..

    I am so sorry you have to deal with so much pain every day. I can tell you are fed up and at your wits end. Tramadol can be increased to 300 mg in a day. It has an Extended Release formula as well. Is it the only medication you are taking for pain? I wonder if adding in a muscle relaxer might help? I take Baclofen and it helps me quite a bit. I love that it is resistant to tolerance. One less thing for me to worry about

   I hope you are able to get some naps in. Know you are in our hearts here!

 *hugg*
   dani



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Miss Blossom
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   Posted 3/19/2011 1:04 PM (GMT -7)   
Hi Dani,

Thanks for your thoughtfulness. The dose of my tramadol is 37.5mg and I am suppose to take 1-2 before bed as needed. I always take 2. I take celebrex in the morning. That is all that has been prescribed, so if I take more I will run out before I see the doctor. I take generic robax during the day as needed and tylenol 1s in the evening and in the middle of the night. The longest I have slept in almost a year is 4 hours at a time, but that is not the norm. I usually wake every 1-2 hours.

I don't know why my doc hasn't given me a higher dose or something different. I have been clear its not working. I have no history of alcohol or drug abuse. Maybe in her experience this is "good enough" for most frozen shoulder patients. It's really not working for me. I think my therapist is going to be a good advocate for helping me get a better pain management program in place.

When I had my arthrogam, which I couldn't tolerate, the doctor suggested that perhaps I have a low pain tolerance. At the time I agreed, but as I thought about it I realized that is ridiculous. I have 3 tattoos and have pierced my tongue, nose, belly button and ears (7times!) You don't subject yourself to that type of body art if you have a low tolerance to pain!

Right now I am just buying bigger clothes that are easier to get in and out of. They just aren't my style. I'm in my 30s and single and just not feeling very attractive. I am lucky I have straight hair, but I do look like I have bed head a lot. I got my hair cut last week and my stylist gave me a fairly low maintenance style. I insisted on very short bangs because they would be easier to manage (and they are cute tongue )

Anyways, thanks for listening. I will keep you posted on what the therapist says on Monday'.

Cheers,
Cheryl

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   Posted 3/19/2011 7:39 PM (GMT -7)   
Do you think the CTS was a misdiagnosis? Was it TOS all along? My mom had CTS in both wrists. She had sugery in both and only one got better. I know from her experiences how debilitating it can be.

It was diagnosed correctly, but incompletely. They only did a partial EMG. I had three unsuccessful surgeries and my condition worsened after that. It is still bad but diagnosed and I try to manage the pain.

I hope you feel better soon.

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   Posted 3/19/2011 10:43 PM (GMT -7)   

 

  Dear Cheryl,

        You know, it is really rude for anyone to tell a chronic pain patient that they have a low pain tolerance. Yet we all hear it at some point, by someone! The reason being that you are in pain everyday. Each new month brings a little more damage, a little more pain. If someone without pain, were to wake up tomorrow morning with your "normal" pain, they would likely pass out. You see, you are becoming accustomed to each new level of pain. You go through a few weeks that are really hard, then become accustomed to the "new level". Then you slowly try to work around the "new 'normal' pain". A few more weeks go by and it is the same cycle. Little more damage ~> more pain ~> new normal ~> increased coping mechanism. I think many times folks refer to this cycle as a "flare" but really when it comes to degenerative problems.. it is an increase in damage. That is what they are feeling. That is what you are becoming accustomed to each day. More damage.

    I just do not see that you are asking for too much. I really don't. You have all the tests / imagery and confirmation of the source(s) of your pain. At this point, anyone can look at the facts and properly treat you. If there was anyway that you could just get a feel for some pain management specialists in your area it might be worth th eeffort. You know, just when you happen to have some time.. it might be a good idea. Of course I completely understand wanting to try to work with your current doctor. I can tell you are trying hard to communicate what is happening to her/him. I really hope she/he hears your concerns. 

     I am 30, will be 31. I remember getting pretty darn angry last year and tossing out half my closet. And darned it all! I have the best of intentions of donating it all, I just cant seem to bring myself to do it! I just stare at it in the garage and move it to the side... well, now I wear skirts all the time. I never thought I would be a long skirt kind of gal  blush   I am still learning to be comfortable. The hard part is that many times something looks great in the little pictures on the internet, but when it arrives I find out it is poorly made or thin fabric!

    I had to giggle at your bed head. I hate that! Now my hair always smells like baby hair because I use my daughters "Johnsons De-Tangler Spray".   rolleyes  

*warm hugg*
       dani  


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Rhaevin
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   Posted 3/20/2011 12:31 AM (GMT -7)   
Hi Cheryl, and welcome to the family. You've already gotten so much wonderful advice from others, but I mainly posted just so you knew that I do sympathize with so much you said.
 
Im in my late 30's, a single Mom with an 8 year old boy. I've lost a relationship and a husband to my pain; not specifically, but it was an aspect of going our seperate ways. Nothing hurts more then being told to suck it up, that you're faking it, that /your/ pain gets in the way of other's happiness.
 
Long strait hair... guess I'm a member of the club too! Because the heat in the desert tends to damage my hair (and those nasty high winds don't help!) I tend to use a thermal protectant and a leave in conditioner and just let my hair air dry. I also have some cute short bangs for the same reason. I found I have a natural wave that only shows up with a wide toothed comb and air drying; anything else and it disappears.
 
I have a similar problem with my right arm, from my shoulder down to my finger tips. I get ocassional numbness and tingling, and the all day, all the time pain. Sometimes it's steady, and other times it flares up. However I have CRPS, which they clasify as a disease of the nerves. It started out with tendonitis from a work related accident. But my tendon got better, but the pain never went away. I actually had one doctor, who after reviewing my file, my x-rays, and my MRIs said to my face, "I can't find anything wrong with you, there for you're obviously fine." Talk about insulting! I thought my pain was bad then, but nothing compared to the emotional hurt of someone suffering CP with no one believeing, or understanding your pain. I had my folks, and that was it. I had been living with them at the time thanks to losing my apartment when I lost a previous job; I was in the process of getting my life back in order and back on my feet when I got hurt at my new job. My life has never been the same since, and as crazy as it is, and frequently frustrating being my age and living with my parents, I am grateful. On bad days when I succumb to exhaustion from combating my pain I know someone is there, that I trust, that can take care of my son for me though I seriously try to only fall apart when he's at school.
You no makeup isn't a big deal. I wear a daily mositurizer with sunscreen with a hint of foundation, and one of those long wearing lipsticks; low maintenance, that's me!
 
I /love/ your comment about "low tolerance of pain". LOL! You're so right, how can someone look at you and say that! That'd be like sayng I had no pain tolerance at all. Just disscount the 5 tattoos, the tongue and navel piercing, and the 3 earrings in each ear.
 
For your shoulders, do any of those creams for sore muscles help at all like IceyHot, BenGay, and the like? I'm partial to Bio-Freeze, but only in the summer as the high temps out here make my arm so sore and swollen... my pain spikes so bad you can't even run your fingers over my arm. The rest of the time I use Tiger Balm, especially on my shoulder. Another consideration would be a TENs unit, as that might help as well. I have one, but after having gone through my trial for a Spinal Cord Stimulator Unit the difference between the two is night and day. Oh I'll use it on a bad day, as it's that or nothing, but I really hope when I meet with my new surgeon this coming week I'll feel comfortable enough to go through with the surgery.
 
Know that you're always welcome here, and that everyone is so kind, compassionate, caring, sympathetic, and has wonderful words of wisdom or advice based on their own experiences. You'll always have a shoulder here for bad days, and folks like Dani and Chutz are priceless friends to have. I know just finding this place was such a huge reliefe to me; I felt so alone and misunderstood till I came here. So remember from here on out... you're not alone.
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Permanently disabled, on Percoset.
February 2011 successful SCSU trial
No surgeon willing to do my SCSU Implant

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   Posted 3/20/2011 2:46 AM (GMT -7)   
Hi Miss Blossom, have you thought about getting a second or even a third opinion about your shoulders? Many times people with frozen shoulders are able to undergo what is called an MUA, Manipulation Under Anesthesia to break up the scar tissue that is causing the problem. It is common for this to happen to people that have surgery on their shoulder and end up with a frozen shoulder and have the MUA done with success.

I cannot imagine being told to wait something like this out. I would be looking for another opinion. The dr had no right telling you that you have a low pain tolerance. I have had arthrograms done on my knees and they are very painful, they are not a walk in the park.

Anyway, I wanted to pop on and give my 2 cents worth, lol. Welcome aboard.
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Miss Blossom
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   Posted 3/21/2011 5:26 PM (GMT -7)   
Thanks Everyone for your words of wisdom and kindness.

I live in Canada and apparently they don't do the MUA or arthroscopy until you have had the condition for at least 2 years. The doctor said that the procedure is done more quickly in the States, but the evidence based research indicates that when the procedure is done before the condition has run its natural course, it often comes back. My sport's medicine doctor has only had 1 patient in her entire career that had MUA and arthroscopy. I was surprised and glad that she sent me to the surgeon, at least to get an opinion. My physio clinic also felt that it was too soon for surgery.

Because I have type 1 diabetes it makes me a higher risk for surgery. The surgeon did not feel that it was worth the risk because of the likelihood it would return. I honestly wouldn't have even considered surgery until i developed frozen shoulder in the second shoulder and the arthrogram was ineffective. Hopefully the "specialists" are right and this is all in the past 2-3 years from now. In the meantime i need to focus on coping.

I appreciate all the advise this forum has to offer. CP is new to me and I feel like I can't give much back at this point, but i am very thankful for what has been shared so openly.

Ladies - thanks for the hair and beauty advice!

Cheryl

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   Posted 7/30/2011 1:58 AM (GMT -7)   
Hi my name is Lexy71 i am 40 years old and have frozen shoulder.
I am a Diabetic as well I have had frozen shoulder for about ten months
 
I went thru PT for 4 months it was awful and my PT told since no improvement she would need to stop the sessions.  Insurance was the cause.  I have been out of PT since may and i am shocked that i feel better than i did when going thru PT.  I think PT was a waste of time and money and a lot of pain .  I have read alot about this problem and bealive that if you just do minor exercises and move youre arm as much as you can it will heal on its own.
 
already i am feeling much better but would like to know if anyone can tell me what to look for when you know you are healing.
 
thank you Lexy71

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   Posted 7/30/2011 5:10 AM (GMT -7)   
It depends on the cause. I have so many nerve injurie sthat mine have been frozen for years. Both of them.

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   Posted 7/30/2011 7:48 AM (GMT -7)   
 
    Good morning Lexy71!
 
          I'm happy to see that you have joind our CP forum, and believe you will enjoy the members as well!
 
     However!...since you are new!....we would really like to welcome you on your very own thread!
 
       Please click the "Post New Topic" button and post an introduction about yourself. The members would love to meet you...and I believe you would be best served if you did this.
 
       We hope to see you there, and if you have any trouble...just give us a holler back here, and one of us will be happy to help you.
 
       One more tiny suggestion...please use the Black font as it is much eaiser to read. Many of our mambers have poor eyesight, and tracking problems. shakehead  
 
       Thanks!...and Enjoy!
 
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