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Raider28
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   Posted 1/14/2012 10:48 PM (GMT -6)   
I'm in the Tampa Bay area of Florida and i got my prescriptions from my doctor 14 day's ago and I have been to 13 pharmacy including cvs, walgreens, Walmart, publixs and not one of them have the oxycodone 30mg or methadone. What is going on? I have seen without a doubt pharmacist picking and choosing who they think needs the medicine. My pharmacist from walgreens left her store and went to another because of that reason, this should be illegal! It makes me sick, yes there are people getting prescribed medicine they do not need but they are not doctors and should not be making choices that is not up to them. Not everyone taking this medicine is abusing it! But this time it's not the pharmacists picking, they really do not have this medication, I have even been told that some pharmacy do not expect to get anymore in. Does anyone know what the reason for the shortage? I tried Google, I tried the FDA website and nothing is said about it. All I have found is talk about the brief shortage in 2009 I also had trouble in 09 but not like this. Any info will help, thank you!

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   Posted 1/14/2012 11:21 PM (GMT -6)   
I live in Canada....no I have never heard of such a thing however here 3 months ago I took my scripts in and was told they are no longer making ms contin 30mg...just like that no longer making them....this caused a real problem and about a month to get my pain under control with a whole new pain regime. Another thing don't you think the doctors should know before us of any shortage or dicontinue of a drug...therefore when we went to see our docs for our meds they would say oh well there is a shortage so we are going to have to try something new...Just does not make sense....I hope things turn out alright for you.

Tak care, Amy
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Ssinss
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   Posted 1/14/2012 11:38 PM (GMT -6)   
I am sorry this is affecting you, I have been following this for a few days I am sorry you missed my post but here is the link again.


www.healingwell.com/community/default.aspx?f=16&m=2308559

A plant recalled many many bottles of bufferin, no doz, Gas X and one more I cant remember. Opiods had been placed in this bottles in error. Now because of the plant issues, many correct pain medications may be in shortage because manufacturing was suspended I will do some more research on the issue. I got the heads up from the American Pain Foundation.

Abdominal surgeries 7ish (C section x2, Hysterectomy, Laprotomy due to scar tissue, left Colectomy, ventral hernia repair,MRSA, Ventral hernia repair removal, MRSA. Ventral hernia repair laproscopic, last surgery left a hole for months that needed to be packed. The last hernia repair was a placement of a Large abdominal mesh with unusual sensitivity to the tacks.

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Screaming Eagle
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   Posted 1/15/2012 5:42 AM (GMT -6)   
Hello Raider!

Welcome to the Chronic Pain Forum!

I'm sorry about your dilemma down there in Florida, and I do not have an answer for you, other than it may be of "Political" reasons. I believe I saw a report that said the Florida uses 70 to 80 percent of all oxycodone scripted in the USA. There is obviously a problem there, but I also believe like many others, especially those of us who need this med for honest pain relief,…that they,... being the FDA, are going about the wrong way to clean up corrupt use of these med's.

Both of the med's you mention, have been in the news a lot this last year, so it does not surprise me to hear of stories like this. I just do not know what to tell you to do there, other than to keep trying. Maybe one county from the other could be the answer. I know this is probably not a good choice since the news also reports problems with Oxycontin, but is it possible that your Dr can script it for you? It's an ER med and I would think might be a better choice, for long term pain relief.

Take care, and I wish you luck in getting what you need.

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Ssinss
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   Posted 1/14/2012 11:44 PM (GMT -6)   
phx.corporate-ir.net/phoenix.zhtml?c=231492&p=irol-newsArticle&id=1645894&highlight=


Another statement.
Abdominal surgeries 7ish (C section x2, Hysterectomy, Laprotomy due to scar tissue, left Colectomy, ventral hernia repair,MRSA, Ventral hernia repair removal, MRSA. Ventral hernia repair laproscopic, last surgery left a hole for months that needed to be packed. The last hernia repair was a placement of a Large abdominal mesh with unusual sensitivity to the tacks.

Screaming Eagle
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   Posted 1/14/2012 11:47 PM (GMT -6)   
I see that Ssinss gave an answer that might very well be the answer! wink I do believe there may be some influence of the problem from the FDA as well.

At this point it's anyones guess, but I would think if it was because of the incorrect packaging, then the pharmacy's should know this, and relay this to the patients asking for these med's to be filled.

I did look at the link that Ssinss supplied here, but do not see the med's that you listed as not being able to get there in Florida.

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Post Edited (Screaming Eagle) : 1/14/2012 9:52:02 PM (GMT-7)


Ssinss
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   Posted 1/14/2012 11:52 PM (GMT -6)   
I am getting a mild smirk out of some of the newer "letters saying this was a planned shut down to make the plant safer" Be safe, my prayers are with everyone that is affected and hopes that the matter is cleared up as soon as possible. I am still looking for a complete list but its all sort of being hush hushed.
Abdominal surgeries 7ish (C section x2, Hysterectomy, Laprotomy due to scar tissue, left Colectomy, ventral hernia repair,MRSA, Ventral hernia repair removal, MRSA. Ventral hernia repair laproscopic, last surgery left a hole for months that needed to be packed. The last hernia repair was a placement of a Large abdominal mesh with unusual sensitivity to the tacks.

Raider28
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   Posted 1/15/2012 12:11 AM (GMT -6)   
Thank you to everyone for your suggestions and comments, for now I am just going to try some physical therapy exercises and take a hot bath. I hope one day I can be pain and pain medication free and have a fun active life with my daughter. It's sad what this world has come to pharmacist playing doctor, I think that's what bothers me the most, the second I walk in to the place I know I am going to be judged on my looks, because I am a young woman they think I can only be a junky I wish they were wearing xray glasses or I could just hand over my medical records with my prescriptions. Or better yet maybe a tee shirt that says I'm in severe pain please fill my medication so I can give my daughter and bath!

Screaming Eagle
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   Posted 1/15/2012 12:25 AM (GMT -6)   
Raider, are you currently on these med's?..or are these new scripts?

SE
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   Posted 1/15/2012 12:28 AM (GMT -6)   
Don't really matter how old you are. I am 42 and from time to time get those same judgmental looks.

I figure if they would ever make a comment I can always offer to hit them in the low back with a metal ball bat and give them a taste of my life.
2 confirmed herniated lumbar discs. Spinal Arthritis. Spinal Stenosis, diabetic peripheral nueropathy.
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Raider28
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   Posted 1/15/2012 12:32 AM (GMT -6)   
SE,
I have been on these for about 4yrs I was hit by a drunk driver and have had knee replacement surgery and have severe injuries to my back and neck also TMJ in my jaw.
Danielle :-)

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   Posted 1/15/2012 12:44 AM (GMT -6)   
..OK…I was wondering what you might do here if you run out…we worry when this happens, as the withdrawals can be severe.

Do you have a back-up plan? Sorry for the questions…but wanted to make sure your going to be ok.

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Raider28
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   Posted 1/15/2012 12:54 AM (GMT -6)   
SE,
Thank you for your concern, as of rite now I do not have a backup plan. My husband just passed 2 months ago so I am now the only person to take care of my daughter and I've had to take a leave of absence from work, but I am going to try to see my doctor on Monday and hopefully he will be able to help me. He is a really good guy he doesn't just write prescriptions he has massage therapy and outpatient procedures like injections and things, so I can just cross my fingers for the next day or so. The withdrawal symptoms are starting now I should have got a new month supply about 2 weeks ago so I am very low
Danielle :-)

Screaming Eagle
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   Posted 1/15/2012 1:19 AM (GMT -6)   
Oh my!…if anything,…get to him quickly, and I wish you the best. I'm terribly sorry, your in this type of mess. There are some med's that will help you with withdrawals, but hopefully he can get you fixed up.

coming off of Methadone is nothing to mess with at all, nor is any narcotic as a matter of fact.

Please keep in touch, and let us know how your doing.

SE :)
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Ssinss
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   Posted 1/15/2012 1:22 AM (GMT -6)   
Danielle,
I am sure as many or all on this forum will be watching for you. My email is listed, fluids, hot baths, deep breathing, do you have anyone to help with your daughter? Only happy movies or shows on the tv!

This was one of the things that helped me. Catnip tea. Another URL.


catniptea.org/



There is always the ER, they can sometimes help in one way or another.
I have way to much experience with methadone withdrawal.
Be safe.
Abdominal surgeries 7ish (C section x2, Hysterectomy, Laprotomy due to scar tissue, left Colectomy, ventral hernia repair,MRSA, Ventral hernia repair removal, MRSA. Ventral hernia repair laproscopic, last surgery left a hole for months that needed to be packed. The last hernia repair was a placement of a Large abdominal mesh with unusual sensitivity to the tacks.

Raider28
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   Posted 1/15/2012 1:25 AM (GMT -6)   
Thank you. I've never been on a site like this before, and it's been very nice having people to talk to who understand. Everyone here has been so nice. I will definitely check back and let everyone know how its going. :-)
Danielle :-)

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   Posted 1/15/2012 4:58 AM (GMT -6)   
Danielle, hello & welcome to Healing Well's chronic pain forum. I am not surprised at all with the problem you are having obtaining the medication. As SE said this has been in the news & on tv pretty heavy for the past year and we have some members like you that already have not been able to get especially Methadone. After all the hype and the FDA stepping in with the new rules concerning opioids rxing Methadone became obsolete with drs in Florida especially in certain areas of Florida. Most of the drs that quit writing scripts for Methadone told the patients they were too scared to write any more scripts because of the FDA. Some came right out and said I am not going to put my medical license on the line.

One thing I like the others want to point out, please do not try to go cold turkey with the Methadone. It is a real hard drug to get off of and thats with others meds in place to help with the withdrawals. I see that you have taken a leave of absence from work, trust me when the withdrawals hit you would not be able to go to work. So, get into your dr Monday and have him give you something else in place of these medications. Wow, a little one to care for, losing your husband and all this going on at the same time, my heart goes out to you. Please, please get in to see your dr or at least call and speak with the nurse and explain how you have ran into a brick wall with your scripts so something else can be called in. Hang onto your original scripts so they can be returned to your dr also.

Please do come back and let us know what your dr has to say about the Methadone problem and what he is going to start you on in place of it. Take care.
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CRPSpatient
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   Posted 1/15/2012 6:03 AM (GMT -6)   
Danielle, welcome from me too.

I noticed that you said 30mg Oxycodone - I know that sometimes here, for whatever reason, my pharmacy will have trouble getting a particular strength of medication and will contact my doctor and have him re-script in lower doses - so instead of one box of 30mg tabs he will write for a box of 10's and a box of 20's, or tell me to take 3x10mg in one go instead. I wonder if this is a possibility . I know that I start feeling early withdrawals if I miss a single dose, so I feel for you terribly. Please also - as the others have said - don't try to go cold turkey with the Methadone.

Keep us posted and take care best you can.

Laura
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AngelinaATF
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   Posted 1/16/2012 4:47 PM (GMT -6)   
I am so sorry that that has happened to you - more than u know bc I am a pharmacist & a chronic pain (lupus) patient. You wouldn't believe the looks I get & I don't even work anymore (& never did practice in this state)! I too am treated as if I'm a leper & these ppl don't even know me or anythg about my illness.
I like to believe I was far more understanding when I worked. I used to tell my techs "We are not judge & jury" when they'd say derogatory things about pain patients. I never would have dreamt that I would become one.
As far as some of the reasons why some rotten apples would act this way, we are taught to be the "policemen" of the medical world & there is alot of liability involved that's behind the scenes (pharmacists can be sued & held accountable if a person took a med & died ..but usually this is rare). The truth is that its very complicated, diff in every state, even diff within the companies! Some are told they are to fill the meds no matter what, others are told not at all. I too wish the system could be fixed. I'm sometimes ashamed to admit I am an RPH however we're not all bad. But my oh my do i feel your pain!
Angelina
age 41
dx: MCTD(LUPUS), RAYNAUDS, FIBROMYALGIA, L4L5 disc herniation, fracture in L3 fro EPIDURAL in childbirth
meds: Arava, prednisone, NIFEDIPINE, estropipate, cyclobenzaprine, gabapentin, hydrocod (4BTP), fentanyl patch, methotrexate - MTX (on hold), minocycline, clonaxepam (sleep), vitamin D, B stress complex, PRILOSEC, Transderm-Scop (on hold)

Ssinss
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   Posted 1/17/2012 1:59 AM (GMT -6)   
Angelina,
I almost cried when you talked about how we are often treated. I still am afraid of saying I am not ok when I see my PM because I have had those types of experiences everywhere. I try not to talk about it to anyone. Small town though. But I finally gave myself a little talking to, I have no reason to feel like I should hide. Right? Ok maybe its still an ongoing talk with myself. But thank you for letting me know its not just me. :)
Abdominal surgeries 7ish (C section x2, Hysterectomy, Laprotomy due to scar tissue, left Colectomy, ventral hernia repair,MRSA, Ventral hernia repair removal, MRSA. Ventral hernia repair laproscopic, last surgery left a hole for months that needed to be packed. The last hernia repair was a placement of a Large abdominal mesh with unusual sensitivity to the tacks.

newname
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   Posted 1/17/2012 10:20 AM (GMT -6)   
I'm going through pretty much the same thing right now, only it's the doctor who is the problem.
Being on these kinds of pain meds for a long time and suddenly not having them isn't only unpleasant, it's dangerous.
But doctors and pharmacists don't seem to care as long as they aren't the ones going through it.
 

Pharm Girl
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   Posted 1/17/2012 10:56 AM (GMT -6)   
Hello Everyone,
 
I am in the Orlando area and am having the same problem getting my prescriptions for Oxycodone filled. Last month it took 7 days of non-stop dilligent searching; this month I am on day 7, thus far, with still no luck. I have been a pain patient since 1991. I went cold-turkey off of Methadone in 2007, which although the emergency room doctors assure me is not fatal, it certainly did not feel so at the time. I had voluntarily remained off of narcotics for 3 years until a new injury caused me to begin taking narcotic pain medication, once again.
 
For the past year I have been on either Morphine Sulfate continous release or Fentanyl patches, with 10 mg Percocet for break-through pain with both. My doctor rotated the meds every few months due to my tolerance issues. These medications worked fine for me and I have never had a problem getting them filled. My pain doctor quit accepting Medicaid and I was forced to find another doctor, for which I have to pay $200 a month, cash. For some reason this doctor refuses to prescribe Morphine or Fentanyl and insists on the Oxycodone 30 mg. 6 x day plus 15mg Oxycodone 2 x a day. He stated he is afraid to prescribe the Morphine or Fentanyl due to his fear of the DEA. I take the Oxycodone as prescribed, and they do work, it's just that I cannot find them in stock.
 
I am shocked, apalled, and outraged by the new laws in Florida regarding pain management. I managed to dig through my old prescriptions and find some Hydrocodone, which helped to stave off the withdrawals, which I knew were starting when I started having hot flashes and chills along with the unbearable pain.  I went to the Emergency room and was informed that Florida law prohibits them from prescribing me narcotics for my chronic pain and that withdrawl is unpleasant, but rarely fatal. They did however, give me medication for my blood pressure, oral steroids, and a 3 day supply of Ultram. I half-jokingly asked them if I should throw myself in front of a bus before coming back for help.
 
I have spent most of the last few days finding organizations that are working to change Florida's pain laws. There is a lot of misinformation regarding the proliferance of pain meds in Florida. I will gladly post links to the real numbers culled from the DEA's own stastistics. Personally, I feel it is none of the DEA's business what my doctor prescribes me for my legitimate pain. It is a violation of both HIPPA and my constitutional rights that the DEA can have my medical information without my consent.
 
I urge every pain patient to get involved, do research, and fight for our rights for humane treatment of legitimate pain. I am a certified domestic violence advocate, but I feel I am being thrust into an advocacy position for pain patients, but I am fine with that. A lawsuit has been filed against the Surgeon General of Florida for violating our constitutional rights. Again, I will post links to this on my next post.
 
Go to the Emergency Rooms. Take ambulances. Write letters to legislators. Get involved. Collectively, we can make a difference. Our numbers are large and our voices need to be heard. I have been on disability for my back injuries since 2001. Tax payer dollars support me on a daily basis. I am on medicaid, and when my blood pressure is 165/110 and my heart rate is 105 EMS does not hesitate to take me to the emergency room in an ambulance which costs approximately $1,000 to tax payers each time.
 
I am at my wits end. I cannot find a pharmacy to fill my prescription, yet I can obtain the Oxycodone on the street if I choose. Something is really wrong with the DEA's diversion campaign when only the street drug dealers have my medication. At $15-20 apiece I can buy them all day, every day and yet I cannot get my prescriptions legally filled.
 
Thanks for listening,
Janet

A higly intelligent, highly pissed off college graduate with a lot of free time on her hands, who wants to help change current pain laws and policies, and who suffers with TMJ, Cervical Displacement, Degenerative Disk Disease, Herniated Disks, and a Pinched Nerve.

Pharm Girl
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   Posted 1/17/2012 12:55 PM (GMT -6)   

While ENDO Pharmaceuticals has given a press release explaining their production problems, this does not fully explain the severe shortage of Oxycodone, as Purdue, KVK-Tech, Actavis, Caraco, Mallinckrodt, Xanodyne, Qualitest, and Glenmark are all manufacturers of Oxycodone, as best as I can determine from my initial research.

I would strongly encourage everyone who is suffering from either shortages of medication or the unconstitutionality of new pain laws to get inolved. Much of the information that is being touted by the DEA is seriously skewed and is a politically motivated "witch hunt." Do some research, learn the real facts, and get involved to help bring about needed changes!

Several links I have found to be useful:

The American Pain Foundation   http://www.painfoundation.org/    click “Get Involved” and then select Leader Directory, and write to your state or regional leader.

Florida Pain News:  http://www.flpainnews.com/  by Florida Society of Pain Management Providers. Very informative and accurate statistics.

Lawsuit against Florida Surgeon General:  http://www.flspmp.com/PDFs/legal%20complaint%20amended%208Dec2010.pdf

American Society for Health Systems Pharmacists:  http://www.ashp.org/DrugShortages/Current/

DEA Diversion Program Comments: http://www.deadiversion.usdoj.gov/comments.htm

DEA Quotas:  http://www.deadiversion.usdoj.gov/fed_regs/quotas/2010/fr1220_2.htm

Reporting Drug Shortages to FDA: http://www.fda.gov/Drugs/DrugSafety/DrugShortages/ucm142398.htm

Endo Press Release:  http://phx.corporate-ir.net/phoenix.zhtml?c=231492&p=irolnewsArticle&id=1645894&highlight=

Florida Society of Interventional Pain Physicians:  http://flsipp.org/index.html

Forum for discussing prescription drugs:  http://www.prescriptiondrug-info.com/

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A higly intelligent, highly pissed-off college graduate with a lot of free time on her hands, who wants to help change current pain laws and policies, and who suffers with TMJ, Cervical Displacement, Degenerative Disk Disease, Herniated Lumbar Disks, and a Pinched Nerve with associated neuropathy.

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   Posted 1/17/2012 1:29 PM (GMT -6)   
I live in Pennsylvania and I take oxycontin 10 mg twice a day. My PM doc wrote a script out for me for 1 month of those little white pills and I went to the same chain of pharmacy that had been filling my scripts for a year now. Well, I was told they dont have any oxycontin 10mg. I asked if another pharmacy within their chain has it and I was told that they are busy with the counter ppl and it would take over 30 minutes for them to check. I asked for the script back and I took it home and I looked up pharmacy numbers and I found one that had my pills. I got my script filled.

I am going out of state for vacation starting 1-22 to 3-12. My new script for oxy 10 mg can be filled 2-7 but in Pennsylvania. So my hubby is delaying going with me so he can get my next months supply of pills and then bring them to me on 2-9. I called pharmacies in the state where I will be and all said get it filled in PA. So I accepted that situation but it stinks!!

Betsey
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newname
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   Posted 1/17/2012 1:39 PM (GMT -6)   
I think this is an overreaction to people who do abuse prescription pain medications. As far as I'm concerned, if some not so bight person wants to endanger their health by abusing narcotic pain medicines, let them. If that same person wants to down a pint of Jack Daniels every night and ends up destroying his liver, there's nothing illegal about that. As long as you're 21, consuming alcohol is perfectly legal even though there are many people who end up dying of alcoholism or getting hit by a drunk driver. Is precription medication abuse more of a problem than over consumption of alcohol?
The result of this crackdown is that doctors are going to be increasingly reluctant to prescribe medications for pain and patients who do receive them better not attempt to get them refilled even a couple of days before they should be out.
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