Can back issues cause pelvic pain ?

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dakotah925
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   Posted 1/31/2012 6:32 PM (GMT -7)   
Hello everyone ! I am new here. I am so glad I found this website. My chronic pain is kinda like that old children's song "Head, shoulders, knees and toes" My body likes to surprise me in the morning as I get out of bed and feel "the pain of the day". Lately I have been getting a good deal of pelvic pain. Been to my gyno and she ordered the tests , all of which have been normal. So that leaves me once again putting the blame on my back or my Fibro. I am post menopause and had a hysterectomy years ago. I do still have my ovaries.I have not felt pelvic pain in years. I am hoping this will just go away. Would anyone have experience with lower back pain radiating to pelvic area ?
C 5-6, C6-7 stenosis. Facet joint disease.Mild bilateral recess stenosis L3-4 and facet hypertrophy.L4-5 severe neural foraminal stenosis and disogenic sclerosis.OA in left knee with small Baker's cyst. PTTD surgery in 2011. Achilles tendon pain. Plantar Fasicitis. Metatarsal arthritis .Fibromyalgia. Depression and anxiety .

straydog
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   Posted 1/31/2012 6:44 PM (GMT -7)   
Hi Dakota and welcome to chronic pain forum. While I do not have pelvic pain I do think it would be reasonable to assume this pain could be coming from your back problem. Sometimes its called referred pain by the drs. Other than your gyno have you seen any other drs about this? If not then perhaps you can start with your PCP and he can make any needed referrals for you.

Mornings and late evening are my bad times, sometimes feel 100 years old. I still have a long ways to go before getting close to that age, lol. I guess its one of the cruel tricks from chronic pain.

Anyway, I wanted to pop on here and tell you welcome aboard. Please keep us posted on you are doing. Take care.
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PAlady
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   Posted 1/31/2012 6:51 PM (GMT -7)   
Hi, Dakotah,
Welcome to the chronic pain forum. I can definitely answer your question with a "yes", although it might depend on what type of pelvic pain you're talking about. Nerve pain can be referred to various places in our body, plus some of the nerves in the lower spine actually provide the sensation for the pelvic region, so if a nerve is being squeezed or otherwise impinged, it certainly can affect that region.

I had a wonderful physical therapist a couple of years ago who was able to locate the source of one of area of pain in my groin area and relieve it by releasing a muscle. I only wish the rest of my pain had been as easy to resolve!

If you are having any symptoms such as urinary incontinence along with the pain, it can be a serious condition called Cauda Equina Syndrome (CES). You might try googling that (sorry I don't have a link handy) and see if your symptoms fit. If so, you need to see a doctor immediately. Otherwise, I'd still suggest consulting a neurologist - or see what your GYN suggests as a follow up.

Again, welcome to the forum.

PaLady

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   Posted 1/31/2012 6:55 PM (GMT -7)   
I'm certainly no Dr, but I have fibro and I swear it feels like it can cause pain anywhere, anytime.

If they don't find another cause and time causes this to go away, it could easily be the fibro. If the pain is related to the ovaries, it could be a cyst (which can probably be seen on an ultrasound).

Good luck! I'm with you on the waking up 100 years old...I start there, go down to 60, then back up to 85 by night. In reality, I'm much younger than any of those numbers...but numbers don't mean a lot to me anymore.
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fireflyhillary
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   Posted 1/31/2012 11:31 PM (GMT -7)   
Has your Doctor ruled out endometriosis? I had it and had severe pelvic and back pain with it. I wish you luck and hopefully they can find out what is causing the pain soon.
Current: DDD L4-S1, Arthritis L4-S1, Facet Syndrome, Interstitial Cystitis, Vulvodynia, Restless Leg Syndrome, Bi-polar, IBS, Fibromyalgia, PTSD. In past 6 months have had epidurals, facet blocks and radiofrequency ablation.
Past: Endometriosis, Adenomyosis, Polycystic Ovarian Syndrome. 3 laparoscopies, 2 cystoscopies, total hysterectomy, appendix & gallbladder removal.

dakotah925
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   Posted 2/1/2012 12:21 AM (GMT -7)   
I don't have incontinence well not yet but I will keep an eye on that PaLady ! I did have endometriosis years ago and it feels exactly like that pain but I am way beyond menopause so I'm not sure.I will have to ask my Gyno. I hope it is not Fibro because that means it is here to stay ugh!Thanks everyone I will let you know what find out.
C 5-6, C6-7 stenosis. Facet joint disease.Mild bilateral recess stenosis L3-4 and facet hypertrophy.L4-5 severe neural foraminal stenosis and disogenic sclerosis.OA in left knee with small Baker's cyst. PTTD surgery in 2011. Achilles tendon pain. Plantar Fasicitis. Metatarsal arthritis .Fibromyalgia. Depression and anxiety .

Monty's Mom
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   Posted 2/1/2012 8:30 AM (GMT -7)   
Dakota,
First of all welcome to the forum.

Postmenopausal women can still have endometriosis in the body, and it can grow in some cases without estrogen. Men can even have endometriosis in some cases.

I am postmenopausal and have increasing endometriosis, no ovaries, and adhesions throughout my abdomen and pelvis that create most of my pelvic pain. Surgeries caused the adhesions.

Sadly, the only way that doctors can reliably diagnose endo or adhesions is to perform surgery, usually laparoscopic.

Also, if you check out the fibromyalgia forum's link at the top to fibro 101, you will find a list of common issues. Pelvic pain is on that list as well. As another member said, back pain can also tie into pelvic pain.

Good luck in your search, and I hope you keep us posted!

fireflyhillary
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   Posted 2/1/2012 3:55 PM (GMT -7)   
I agree with Monty's Mom- you can still have endometriosis even if you are postmenopausal. I had 3 laparoscopie's for my endo and it always came right back. I ended up having a total hysterectomy because of the endo and many other issues. If you still have your ovaries it's a good chance that it is endo. I wish you luck!
Current: DDD L4-S1, Arthritis L4-S1, Facet Syndrome, Interstitial Cystitis, Vulvodynia, Restless Leg Syndrome, Bi-polar, IBS, Fibromyalgia, PTSD. In past 6 months have had epidurals, facet blocks and radiofrequency ablation.
Past: Endometriosis, Adenomyosis, Polycystic Ovarian Syndrome. 3 laparoscopies, 2 cystoscopies, total hysterectomy, appendix & gallbladder removal.

japonica
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   Posted 2/1/2012 5:05 PM (GMT -7)   
Hi Dakota,

Pelvic pain could be from damage to the pudendal nerve. It can happen following an accident or fall or after things that put a lot of unnatural pressure on the nerve like bike riding.

i've suffered with pudendal nerve entrapment (PNE) for about six years, since falling and hitting my backside against a rock while on a backpacking trip. i was carrying way too much in my pack then it rained and i couldn't manage the weight. It's low pelvic nerve pain- the perennial area, the part of the body that hits the chair when sitting. Sitting is almost impossible when you have severe pudendal nerve pain.

It's sometimes very difficult to find the diagnosis of PNE as most drs never think of it. i don't think it's rare though- there are doctors that specialize in treating pelvic pain that can test the PN and can treat it. A few can do surgery to correct it but it's difficult to fix.

Best wishes to you, to find what is wrong and something that helps,
sophora

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   Posted 2/1/2012 7:37 PM (GMT -7)   
Hi dakota,
PALady was refering to the psoas muscle. it can cause low back pain and pain in pevic area. it is a very easy release that most massage therapists should be able to do. dont hesitate to ask them first or ask around in your area for a great therapist. you can easily have this done in a 30 min. session. the therapist may also want to work the surrounding area..ive found the best therapy to be trigger point work. ask around its worth it. and i to have alot of adhesions from past surjurys and a DR. described them as piano strings and your intestins can get crimped in them causing pain/discomfort. I was able to figure out that pants with pleats in the front were terrible because they allowed my abdomen to distend below the button. where pants w/out pleats held you tighter if that makes sence???

dakotah925
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   Posted 2/8/2012 7:05 PM (GMT -7)   
Hello everyone. I have been to my GYNO and she seems to think ,( after looking at my Ct scan ) that my pelvic pain is radiating from my lumbar area. Endometriosis after menopause is something I had not considered. It feels exactly like the type of pain. Trust me , after living with that pain for so many years I remember it well. I go back to my Gyno in a few weeks for my annual and I will ask her about that possibility, ugh that would be my luck! Thanks for the comments.
C 5-6, C6-7 stenosis. Facet joint disease.Mild bilateral recess stenosis L3-4 and facet hypertrophy.L4-5 severe neural foraminal stenosis and disogenic sclerosis.OA in left knee with small Baker's cyst. PTTD surgery in 2011. Achilles tendon pain. Plantar Fasicitis. Metatarsal arthritis .Fibromyalgia. Depression and anxiety .

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   Posted 2/9/2012 10:10 PM (GMT -7)   
If your gyn tells you it can't be endo, make sure to ask why. If she tells you it's because you are menopausal, I strongly suggest you get another opinion. Far too many docs believe that hysterectomy, childbirth, and menopause cure endo. Each of these does help some women but not all.

My former gyn kept insisting that I get a total hysterectomy to cure my endo. I used to run a support group for women with endo and I met too many that still had endo and all its problems after their hysterectomies.
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