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Victoria
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   Posted 5/20/2012 2:33 PM (GMT -6)   
Unable to find a pharmacy in west central Florida to fill pain medications // if you live in this area of Florida and know a pharmacy that has either Oxycodone, Methadone, or Hydromorphone in stock please let me know // my dad is 72 years old and has muliple chronic pain issues and I can find nowhere from Sarasota up to Hernando Counties and Hillsborough and Polk Counties //


Is anyone else having this problem?



Tori


Tori, I edited your post to add a title. It will improve your chances at getting a good reply.---------Jim.

Post Edited By Moderator (Jim1969) : 5/20/2012 3:30:17 PM (GMT-6)


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   Posted 5/20/2012 3:26 PM (GMT -6)   
Hi, I've heard about these shortages -- and one other option to explore is mail-order.

I have used the following (who are partnered with Blue Cross):
http://www.primetherapeutics.com/mailservices.html

I'm not sure what their rules are, but if they can't help, maybe your father's insurance has a different mail order service.
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   Posted 5/20/2012 4:33 PM (GMT -6)   
Tori,

I have 3 suggestions for you.

1. Talk with your father's insurance provider.
2. Talk with the prescribing doctor.
3. Check with pharmacies located in hospitals.
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   Posted 5/20/2012 5:26 PM (GMT -6)   
Tori....when you say you are looking for "either" of these medications...is your father prescribed all 3 of them?

And what did the pharmacy, where he usually goes, say about being out of all of these medications?

We do have other members on here that are from Fl. and are receiving them so hopefully they will chime in as well. Obviously things in FL and other states have really changed where they have closed down so many pill mills and unfortunately this has put a tighter lid on the good pharmacies stocking medication.

I think the ideas from Jim are good to start making calls first thing tomorrow morning. And working with his Dr. to maybe change him over to a different medication that is more easily stocked like MSContin.
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   Posted 5/20/2012 10:08 PM (GMT -6)   
My father is only prescribed Methadone and Oxycodone but the doctor mentioned switching him to Diludid but they tried him on about 6 months ago and it made him extremely droggy and he was falling asleep while smoking and I have to work and cannot be here all the time.  My dad's insurance has mail order but they will only fill a 90-day supply and this is my argument with his doctor if they will fill it then why can't he authorize a 90-day supply just until this issue is over? I asked the mail order if they would fill it for one month and they will not and the doctor won't authorize 90 days even though it is legal and my dad would still have to see him monthly and pay the $120 for the office visit to get his methadone and soma scripts ... this situation has not only had my dad in tears from pain but me in tears from frustration and not being able to help my dad. I've driven into 7 counties trying to fill it and the pharmacy tech is so nice until they see what the script is for and then there attitude changes completely and they treat you like a crackhead; they become rude and are just in a hurry to get you out of their store ... since my dad cannot take the Diladid I do not know what to do and I don't understand why the drug manufacturer's cannot make more to compensate for this shortage if that's truly the problem or is this political?  I believe the governor in this state wanted pain medications out of here because Florida had the most "pill mills" in the US but people were coming here from out of state and seeing candy doctors and going back home and seeing candy doctors there too.  This has been going on for at last 15 years in Florida and I'm happy they are stopping it ... I'm upset that it's coming at the price of those that truly need the medication.  I just cannot drive all over central Florida every month looking for 30 mg Oxycodone and wish the doctor would okay the mail order but tomorrow I'm calling walgreens mail order because they do fill 30 days at a time but I will most likely have to pay for it because Humana will only pay their own mail order. Health care in this country is a mess.
 
Thank you guys for you advice, I do truly appreciate any help I can get.
 
Tori

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   Posted 5/20/2012 10:15 PM (GMT -6)   
I have gotten those meds in Lake County at Walgreens, Winn Dixie(ask them to order ahead of time at WD) Try Publix and SMALL pharmacies too. Do you happen to go to Dr in Tampa? Oh, KAY'S PHARMACY in Tampa, in the same building as Tampa Pain Clinic where the above Dr. works, usually has them all the time. Most pharmacies WILL NOT FILL THOSE scriptS IF THEY ARE FROM ANOTHER COUNTY. That may be the reason you are turned away. Believe me, I have had your troubles many months. Good luck!

Please do not list the drs name as the administrator would rather we not do this. You may exchange this info via private email.

Post Edited By Moderator (straydog) : 5/21/2012 9:18:20 AM (GMT-6)


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   Posted 5/21/2012 2:38 AM (GMT -6)   
Are you sure it's not the doctor he is seeing? I don't understand why a 72 yr old would be paying $120 a visit if it was a reputable doctors office and not a pill mill.. Most of the pharmacies in Florida know the doctors that are still running these pain clinics and will not fill there scripts. Also the meds he is being prescribed sound like a pain clinic. Oxy's,methadone and soma's????
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Victoria
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   Posted 5/21/2012 4:58 AM (GMT -6)   
I do not know of any "FREE" doctors and because he charges does not make him a quack.

Dr actually cares about his patients ... he does NOT give my dad a huge amount of those medications. My dad gets one soma a day, 3 Oxycodone a day and 4 Methadone a day and considering the severe pain my dad is in that is very little but better than NOTHING at all. My dad has been on pain meds for 17 years and your body builds up a tolerance to these medications and what some would think would kill a person they will not kill someone that has been on strong pain pills for years and years.

There were candy doctors here writting over 700 Oxys a month and 300 Methadone, 120 xanax bars, and 90 somas. So I do NOT believe Dr. falls in that category. He actually cares about his patients and believes they have a right to some sort of quality of life. My mother had RSD and attempted suicide twice the pain was so severe and my dad suffers from much more than just RSD. My dad has had both knees replaced and one was unsuccessful and causes him great pain but because he is in such poor health they do not believe he would survive another surgery and prefer to do what they can with pain medication to keep him comfortable since they belive his time is short. My dad also needs a hip replacement. His neuropathy is from his waist down and his tail bone was damaged in a fall which caused severe damage to the nerves in that area and he cannot sit, stand, walk, or lie down for more than a couple of minutes at a time without pain medication. My dad also suffers from shingles in both shoulders and his back not to mention his bulging disks and slipped disks. This is what gets me about pharmacist - they have NO IDEA what problems my dad has yet they feel they have a RIGHT to question his medications - the doctor has all my dad's tests results and the pharmacist has NO CLUE but they want to act as if they are your doctor. If pharmacists are all we need then they should be writting the scripts since they know more about your medical conditions than your doctor.

Since's Kay's Pharmacy is in the same building we always try to fill them there first but they have been out. I'm gonna try Walgreens mail order tomorrow.

Tori



I have edited out the drs name as the administrator would rather we not give out the drs name here at the forum, this info can be exchanged via private email. Thanks.

Post Edited By Moderator (straydog) : 5/21/2012 9:21:04 AM (GMT-6)


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   Posted 5/21/2012 10:40 AM (GMT -6)   
Hi Tori, I am sorry that you are having the problems you are trying to find these medications for your dad. But, I will tell you, you are not the first one that has posted here that cannot get either one of the medications. One of our members was on Methadone for a couple of years and went in to his PM dr one day and was told by the dr Methadone was no longer going to be available. For whatever reason people are having a very difficult time obtaining either of these meds and apparently the pharmacies are not being honest in some situations as to whether or not it is available. Its just one big mess from what I have seen. I am speaking of this all coming out of Florida.

You said the Dilaudid made your dad sleepy, I imagine it was the dosage that caused this. Another thought would be MSContin for your dad. The people say they get decent relief and it is an extended release medication. I hope you can find someone that has the meds. But, I think you will see this problem from now on with these meds.

With all the new guidelines in place for PM drs, in my state if a dr scripts a class 2 narcotic, the dr must see the patient in the office every 30 days before a new script can be written. I don't know what Florida laws are, but things have really changed with the new rules since the DEA took over this area.

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Post Edited (straydog) : 5/21/2012 9:45:44 AM (GMT-6)


Ryobi
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   Posted 5/22/2012 1:29 AM (GMT -6)   
Im sorry you are having these problems, your poor Dad....Do you guys have Targets there? They are my pharmacy and first of all they really do treat you like family. But also the have to order my Butran. I just make sure I tell them a week ahead of time. Most other meds if they do not have them they can get them the next day.
Good luck in getting his meds so he feels better

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   Posted 5/22/2012 1:47 AM (GMT -6)   
Tori,

I'm really sorry that your dad has so many pain issues.... and is having such a hard time finding meds (and I'm sorry for the stress it is causing you as well). Hope you can find them....

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   Posted 5/22/2012 4:10 AM (GMT -6)   
I am having some difficulty with this thread...perhaps I am missunderstanding.

I do understand the drug shortage in FL and I do understand seeking help from a chronic pain forum..I guess, but I don't understand the apparent hostility and anger that seems to be coming from the original poster.

My standard scripts were 120 oxycodone, 120 ultracet, and 120 soma with no problems. Now they are 120 oxy, 120 ultracet, 60 mscontin and 90 robaxin. These numbers don't seem crazy to me...I also get xanax cr (30 because it is a controlled release). Again, I don't see where the issue is with the anger because these are not pill mill numbers. They are about the norm for my conditions...with the exception that I really want the MSContin to be a slightly higher dose (not number), as it has been a real help with keeping my pain at a lower level.

I am very sorry for anyone who has problems getting medications. I keep all of mine locked up in a very strong safe (that would take a semi truck to move) and I test clean on all drug tests. I would file a police report in a hot second if I found anyone taking my meds, period! I let everyone who works in my house know that (but don't give them the names of my meds....of course).

Most doctors have a good relationship with one pharmacy or the other.....if they are legit. I would think that asking the Dr which pharmacy they would suggest to fill at and then explaining the problem (with a would you please call and advise them that my scripts are legitimate) may solve the problem. I use a mom and pop type pharmacy. I know they are aware who is a legit patient and who is an addict in our small town. Believe me, the mom and pops (and even the pharmacits in the larger stores) generally know who is on the up and up. It's their job and they see it every day. Pharmacy workers are a different story, but a "good" pharacist will know the regulars pretty well.
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Victoria
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   Posted 5/26/2012 3:20 AM (GMT -6)   
The doctor is excellent; he is not a candy doctor and the pharmacist here in Tampa are aware of that. The pharmacies are limited as to how many Oxycodone, Methadone and Diludid they are allowed to get each month regardless of how many their customers need ... therefore they will not take new patients and when your normal pharmacy is out you are screwed. i contacted RightSourceRX which is our insurance companies mail order pharmacy and they will only fill a script for 90 days NOT 30 days and although they have Oxycodone 30 mgs and are willing to fill a 90 day supply my dad's pm doctor will not authorize it even knowing the extreme difficulty obtaining this medication.

As for the Diludid the pharmacist let me know I will not have any better luck filling that than the Oxycodone or Methadone because when the Oxycodone got so hard to get patients were switched to Methadone and Diludid. I just cannot believe that a person can take their animal down to the humane society and they will gladly put it out of it's misery but human beings are forced to suffer while animals are given mercy and compassion..... (edited) It is so hard to sit and watch someone you love lie in bed and then stand up and watch TV and then sit in a chair and then walk the floors and then get back in bed and the cycle continues for hours upon hours because my dads condition prevents him from lying, sitting, standing, or walking for anymore than a couple of minutes without being in horrible pain. Now the DEA wants to stop legitimate patients from obtaining their medications.


I've been to every pharmacy big and small in Tampa, Brandon, Plant City, Northdale, Carrollwood, Town N Country, Valrico and they all tell me the same story about having reached their monthly quota. Those are all in the same county.

This month I had to get my dad 4 bottles of rum and my dad is a recovering alcoholic and he was doing so good under the care of a pain management doctor until he could not longer obtain the medication. At least the medication does not make him a "mean drunk" so I'm suffering a great deal myself having to live with my dad when he is in such horrible pain that he is willing to start drinking again if it will ease his pain.

The government acts as if alchol is safe LOL that should have been made illegal years ago and it could have saved many lives ... look at all the people that drink and drive? Look at the people that get drunk and pull a gun on someone and kill them? But alcohol is legal and you can get it on any street corner. There is something very wrong with this picture.

I was so happy to see the DEA crack down on pill mills and candy doctors and set up the state wide database to stop doctor shopping and I believed this was the answer to Florida's problem with pain medication but they did not even give it a chance to see if all that was enough to make a difference but instead went ahead and decided to make it all illegal so that people will go back on heroin as a form of pain relief, go back to alcohol as a form of pain relief.

It just makes me sicker than I already am. I suffer from my own health and mental illnesses and taking care of my dad is really tough... (edited)

Just when I got my dad to let me manage his medications and give them to him daily because of his dementia and forgetting he took them and taking them again and he'd been doing really good. He only gets 196 Methadone and 112 Oxycodone and 28 Somas a month and it's not like he got that amount from his first visit ... he's been going to pain management since 1994 and your body builds up a tolerance to the medication and requires more.

My dad passes all his drug tests, sees his doctor every 28 days and does everything they ask him to do and still they find a way to punish those that truly need pain medication just to have some quality of life.

My dad's pm appt is next week and i will be handing them back the Oxycodone script that could not be filled and once again ask if he will contact RightSourceRX with a 90 day supply of Oxycodone and then get out there and hit every pharmacy in town looking for the Methaone and if it's as bad this next time as this time was I think I will just be done with it. My dad will have to go in a nursing home. They made my dad sign a paper stating he would not buy or trade or borrow his medications and he signed it and he has not done any of that but they are the ones that force people to do those things because they go out of their way to make your life so difficult you are forced to find another way to find some measure of comfort.

Edited - Please look at our forum rules. While we understand your frustrations, we cannot discuss certain things here on the board, including self-harm; politics; etc.

Post Edited By Moderator (Momto8kids) : 5/26/2012 7:53:17 PM (GMT-6)

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