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mezz1962
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   Posted 10/30/2007 9:31 PM (GMT -7)   
Ok heres the problem as quick as I can explain.

I never took drugs I started having anxiety attacks 10 years ago and I was on a few meds but they made me lifeless and I stopped taking them altogether and just dealt with the anxiety. I have been diagnosed with Adult ADD and I am 44 years old happily married and own a business

This past april I was playing Basketball and ruptured a disk in my back and a piece went into my nerve. The gave me percocet for the pain I was in.

If anyone here knew me I am mean, I can't finish things, I curse a lot and I have troublefocusing always going from one thing to another and never sleep over 4 hours.

After a month or so the pain in my back decreased I started to slowly walk again and I did schedual surgury. But as I healed and started going back to work and outof the house My wife, Mother, Workers all started noticing that I no longer cursed and things that used to upset me now I just let go and dealt with them without the yelling.

After a few months I was off Percocet and the anger returned. But whenever I took a percocet everything was great and I could focuse again. As an example I have a retail store and a Big internet company. We get about 400 emails a day normally I can answer 10 at a time and just move to something else but on percocet a 2.5 mil tab (I cut a 5 in half) I amswered in one sitting 240 emails. The following week I did the same thing.

I got so excited that I saw a Psych hopeing to finally cure what I had because I finally saw how normal people lived and not only myself but my family and friends like me as well.

I am on Straterra but nothing worked like Percocet and no Dr will perscribe them for me I am signing up for one of those Buy your Pills overseas I did not have a Percocet for almost a week I am not with drawing and I only took 1 5mg pill a day (Cut in 1/2 took 2.5 and then 2 hours later the other 1/2) I only took them when I really had to concentrate on work or I was going out with my family.

I don't drink and until I hurt my back I never even took a asprin (My anxiety attacks happened a lot whenever I had to take meds I always thought I was having an allegic reaction and I could not breath)

So Now what do I do. I still have the back problem I tore my ACL in my knee and am going for surgury next week and my Dr only percribes me Vicodin which I dont take. I can deal with the pain the percocet is formy Brain.

Has anyone tried those out of country drug places? Someone give me a little advice here

TTRN
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   Posted 10/31/2007 12:24 AM (GMT -7)   
Hey Mezz1962, I did try the online stuff and was able to purchase and a high price, but then access was cut off to Florida and 2 other states I forget and they could not ship to me, but I finally had found a MD who believed me and gave me an adequate RX. Try it and see, the quality I tried was fine and never a problem it just was around 300$ for 90-10mg tablets and then i cut them in half.  Hope it works for you Toni

AL/Paula
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   Posted 10/31/2007 4:35 AM (GMT -7)   
You need to see a pain specialist  with the fed gov't changes and all those media hyped stories about drug overdoses etc. many GP are unwilling to prescribe     Also the perkiness you fill with percodan could be a side-effect of sorts  my best friend takes hydrocodone(vicodin,lortab,norco) and gets hyperelated feeling when I was using it i became sleepy.  I have had fibro for more than 20 yrs  and a good pain MD can help :-)

Circa1988
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   Posted 10/31/2007 10:32 AM (GMT -7)   
I hate to break it to you, but you cannot take percocet to cure your psychological problems, especially when you say that your pain has decreased and you dont need it for pain anymore. That feeling you are having is the very same one that people get addicted to. It would be a mistake for you to start taking percocet like that to try and help make you feel better, because you are essentailly just getting high. Even though you may not be taking much, because you are only taking it for the effects that improve your mood (its euphoria), that is the same thing people are doing when they take it to get high. You are headed down a bad road. You cannot take opioids like that it is a very, very bad idea. I can almost guarantee you will end up addicted to oxycodone (what is in percocet) if you continue doing this. You need to work with a psychiatrist to take care of your psychological problems, not take opioids. Understand that the same feeling you are getting is the one that you read about people getting addicted to, it is called euphoria, and you already seem to have a very strong attraction to it. Many people do start out using these drugs because they say it lets them do more work, or a similar type of thing, but it leads down a terrible path of pain and addiction.

mezz1962
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   Posted 10/31/2007 3:07 PM (GMT -7)   
I don't get a euphoric reaction what I like about it is the ability to concentrate. Everyone tellsmeto get on Ritlin but as far as I know thats addictuve as well any drug is addictive if you like it enough and while I take it to work normally I never take it at all only when I know I am going to have to sit in front of my computer for 3-4 hours.

Then I take it because it makes mesit in front of the computer and work as a benifit I am also a lot nicer and if you ever knew me normally I am the meanest SOB on earth.

I did investigate and this does have an effect on brain chemistry and Straterra was actually created from the idea of percocet cut effect that part of the brain so it will help the adult ADD

Circa1988
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   Posted 11/1/2007 12:01 AM (GMT -7)   
What you are describing is euphoria. It has many forms and is different for everyone, you say that it improves your mood and makes you nicer to talk to, that right there is euphoria. It is defined as 'a sense of well being' or something along those lines, depending on where you look. From what you tell me, it looks like the percocet definately gives you a sense of well being, especially if you are more pleasant to be around when you are on it. Trust Gramps on this one. What you are doing is misuse of the medication, you are also going to get addicted to them if you continue doing this. It will be a slow decline, you will slowly increase how many you take and it wont give you the same feeling anymore no matter how much you take, but you will take them everyday anyway. You will probably spend vast amounts of money obtaining them and maybe do things that you know are wrong, but you will need to get those pills, no matter what. You might get arrested for having them without a prescription. Who knows, but one thing is for sure. If you keep taking these percocet on a regular basis like you are now, not for pain, but to help you be 'a lot nicer' and to sit in front of the computer for a long time, you will certainly have some problems from it. I cannot stress strongly enough how bad of an option opioids like oxycodone (what is in percocet) are to treat psychological problems, they cause a false sense of well being in you, that is why you seem like a nicer person and you are able to sit at the computer, because you feel content. It is this feeling (the euphoria), no matter how subtle it is at the doses you are taking, that is so addictive and that you could very well end up chasing after the rest of your life.

I hope everyone has a pain-free day,
Circa

PS- Did you actually go to your doctor and tell him that you wanted percocet because it helps you concentrate and makes you nicer to talk to? If you did, I am just wondering what the doctor's reply was. I cannot imagine he was too thrilled about you proposing this idea.

mezz1962
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   Posted 11/1/2007 2:59 AM (GMT -7)   
I thank you all for your comments and believe me I am more than aware of the addiction problem this presents. I will tell you this as I used the percocet I made sure to stay off it days at a time and never used it unless I had to do some intense work.

I did use it since april and at 1st I was taking a 5mg pill every hour or so because of the ruptured back and the nerve it damage made my left leg feel like it was on fire. Even with all that Percocet I still could not sleep for a few weeks.

Anyway I wasoff percoet for a few days in August and went through horrible withdraws and I went back on it. Last week I ran out of pills and my Dr wont precribe anymore. But this time because I made sure to get off them whenever I could I had no symptons...Not a one.

I look at it this way I would rather risk becoming an addict than putting my family and friends through my mood swings and anger that I have done the past 20 years.

My wife is aware of the risk she works as a medical secretary and even she agrees that the change in me is worth it. If anyone here seen house well I am in sort of the same situation. What I do on the computer and for my business no one else can do and I can't teach people what would sell and what does not. Me and my partner own one of the largest music parts companies worldwide. How can I teach a person outof over 500,000 parts what would sell whats the pricing how it should be presented to our customers? I go by feeling.

I know all of you are concerned and I thank you for it. But I have been upfront with my wife, Kids, Family and business partner and my workers so everyone knows what I am doing and the reasons why and they all 100% agree that the change is so dramatic that it's worth the risk and everyone is pitching in to help

In fact I set it up with my Buisness partner that if I can get the pills he would controll it and he will give me 1 yes ONE 5mg pill a day and thats all. So I am making sure to take steps to protect myself.

mezz1962
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   Posted 11/1/2007 5:00 AM (GMT -7)   
It wont be unprescribed and hardly anyone goes to jail for such a small thing thats all talk. If they did go to jail you would have to lock up 1/2 of Hollywood.

Plus I am looking into those on line consaltation dr's its not like I don't live in pain.I had already 5 shoulder surguries, a ruptured disk in my back and also a torn Minicus and also a torn ACL in my left knee.

So I do have a medical reason for having these drugs.

I am just being honest and I do value your opinion and I am going to take people's advice and talk to my Psych first before doing anything further.

03Mach
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   Posted 11/1/2007 6:57 AM (GMT -7)   
Mezz,
I know how you feel, but you must be very careful with opiates. It is almost impossible to not become addicted to these powerful drugs! I have legitimate chronic back pain, and am now dependent on oxycodone. With opiate abuse becoming such a huge issue, the DEA is really cracking down on abuse. If someone is caught with meds that aren't theirs or prescribed/used incorrectly they face federal charges. I know we all sound like we are just bi*****g at you but we aren't. Many people here know the problem of depending on a stupid pill to function normally. I started out taking 5mg 2-3 times a daya few times a week. I now take 10mg 2-4 times a day plus 20mg (oxycontin) at night. If I don't take the stuff every 8 hours or so I get all icky feeling. Opiates really seduce people, and know how to gain control over your life. I am begging that you seriously think about this before going any further with it. Opiates are really a bad way to control your mood. you also have to be VERY careful with oversea meds. The US drug companies are FDA regulated so we know what is in the meds we take. Anything you get overseas is not as strictly regulated by their respective government.

You also said at one point that you were taking a pill every hour? If these were percs. be careful, they also contain apap (acetaminophen). The content is usually either 325mg or 500mg. 4 grams of apap is toxic, and 2-3 grams daily repeatedly can also dangerous to ones liver.

I have a link to a forum I'd like to post so you can see what this can lead to, but I'm not sure if this would violate TOS... Can someone let me know if this is OK?

take care.

aggscott
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   Posted 11/1/2007 4:20 PM (GMT -7)   
Mezz I'm not going to say a word about the reasons why you shouldn't do this, you know them, that's clear. My question is isn't there something else that you can take? There must be a anti-depressant that you can take that would help you be a nicer person?  Find that calmness you desire. Sometimes you need to try different ones, find a combination of a few meds that would work...Try different things to find something else that will help you.
 
 I have read about people who have found that when they take opioids that feel better, feel normal. It is a lacking of endorphins I believe so when they take these meds they feel better....Something you might want to google and read up on.Maybe they have a med which will help you.
 
 
 
I wish you all the luck in finding something that will help you-
 
Aggie
 
PS--Here are a few web-pages that touch on what you have said in your above post..I hope this helps you--
 
 
 

Post Edited (aggscott) : 11/1/2007 6:59:49 PM (GMT-6)

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