My Doc wants me to get off pain meds

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painsince91
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   Posted 11/29/2007 8:16 PM (GMT -7)   
I take Soma, Neurontin, and Hydrocodone for chronic pain (24/7) He says its very bad and he wants me off. I don't know how I will function without it. I am in severe pain with it. It only helps for about an hour 4 times a day, but I'll take whatever few moments of pain relief I can find wherever i can find it.As you know I have several things going against me , bulging dics, tear between dics, DDD, DJD, Fibro, Osteo. But I am interested in finding alternatives. I'm not sure what I would need and I can't afford a lot of things my insurance wouldn't cover such as otc herbs, etc.
 I want my life back. I want to sit down and feel good with not so much pain an d anxiety. I want to keep my housework up and not suffer for it.
Any thoughts?

curley
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   Posted 11/30/2007 12:03 AM (GMT -7)   
I am sorry that you are having to deal with all of this pain.if you don't mind me asking why is your doctor dead set on taking you off your meds when he know's your medical histery?and too are you seeing a Pain mangement doctor or is your PCP the one that is scripting yor meds?I hope that you get some reliefe soon and please let us know what your doctor does as far as your pain meds.
Curley
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Chutz
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   Posted 11/30/2007 8:03 AM (GMT -7)   
Hi!

I think you ought to ask for a referral to a Pain Management specialist/clinic. It can't be worse than what your doc is going to do. I'm going to take a guess and say that something spooked your doctor about prescribing pain meds. Maybe an audit or one of his patients got busted for drug abuse...whatever the reason for the change you shouldn't need to suffer because of other's problems. You might have to even get a new PCP...one who's not afraid to put his patients first.

Keep us posted...
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CaryF
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   Posted 11/30/2007 9:45 AM (GMT -7)   
I'd most certainly get another medical opinion. I've tried every herbal and naturopathic solution there is. They are expensive and not strong enough for us folks with chronic conditions. Look for a pain clinic - or at least a more undertanding Dr. before you panic. There are good ones out there that understand & will work woth you - rather than against you. Don't give up!

painsince91
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   Posted 11/30/2007 9:09 PM (GMT -7)   
My Doc is sending me to Phy. Ther. 3 days a week for a month.He's not my primary Doc. My primary gives me the meds but he also doesn't want to change them or raise them. He wants me to go to a pain clinic but the one he wanted to send me to wouldn't take me because I was discharged from a pain clinic  a few years ago because I wouldn't take the epidural steroid shots. It is on all my med records that I am allergic to (or cannot tolerate) steroids. So basically I am being punished because I can't take the steroids. They said that was all they had ledt to offer. I'm sure they assumed I was a drug seeker (I am not). My referring Doc said they would be able to change or adjust my meds to better manage my pain, but because I wouln't take the injections, they did not want to manage my pain.
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AngMichelle
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   Posted 11/30/2007 9:51 PM (GMT -7)   
Some pain mang. doctors really do just do the injections. ONe pain doc. here where I live only treats with injections, so I couldn't go to him. (i have migraines). I ended up having to pay $250 a visit, so he made a referal of the meds he would prescribe, and my PCP followed his advice. He had me on way too much fentanyl though...
Just thought I'd share that they may not have thought you were a drug seeker at all, but the injectons may be all they really have to offer.
I would love to tell you about something called a spinal flush. Its something we do in Energy Medicine. There is a book my Donna Eden that is really good.
Best to you,
Ang
DX-Migraines:PCOS(should have seen this list before!!)
Meds; imitrex inj, stadol ns PRN severe h/a
 ProzAC 40mg, Klonopin 1mg BID , Ambien 10mg
PRN, Pherergan, Actiq 600mcg(fentanyl suckers) for migraine breakthrough pain
 Doing engergy medicine!!!! Psych-K (look it up)
OFF ALL MEDS! AND DOING GREAT. still have h/a's but they aren't ruining my life anymore!
 
May God give you a reason to smile today, an extra reason to laugh, and bring joy to your soul.


TexasJen
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   Posted 12/3/2007 9:43 AM (GMT -7)   
Plenty of pain docs turn into nothing more than Shot Jockeys because (1) the shots make them a whole lot of money; and/or (2) they don't want to deal with addiction issues and the DEA in their practices. It's really sad that when shots don't work (which they don't in a whole lot of people) patients are forced into the very "doctor-shopping" behavior that flags them as possible abusers. All you can do is keep working within the system with your current docs for another referral to a different pain practice.
Living in the Republic of Texas minus a gallbladder, a couple of cervical discs, appendix, uterus, and 18" of colon; but still alive and living with my husband, 2 dogs, 1 cockatiel, and 2 gold fish. 


tramacet
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   Posted 12/4/2007 2:53 PM (GMT -7)   
 
 
       Dear pain since 91
 
    Dont listen to people telling you your regular physician is wrong. It is 99%likely that
he is right .These opioids are extremely addictive and they reduce your pain threshold so that they increase your sensitivity to pain. They were thought to be a miracle cure for chronic pain by the medical professsion (my people) 10 yrs ago and they have turned into more of a medical disaster. If you gradually scale down your pain meds according to your doctors advcice you will feel more pain in the short run and less pain in the long run
             Do not go to ANY  pain clinic .These are the people who created this disastrous
black chapter in the history of medicine . (they use the term opioids for noncancer pain ,at least that was the in vogue term last week ) A conservative chiropracter who uses hands on therapy can give you decent relief ,but have realistic expectations .You will nt be cured .
    It sounds to me as if your own doctor is giving you excellent  advice.                                        

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Chutz
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   Posted 12/4/2007 3:16 PM (GMT -7)   
Tramacet,

It seems that from your experience you have a different opinion, which you are entitled to. But there are people who do need pain relief and there is safe relief with medication.

Addiction and dependence are very different. Yes, the body will become dependent but addiction implies intentionally doing harm and using drugs illegally. These medications have never been claimed to be a "cure" for pain but they do give many people some quality to their life. Thousands of people use them every day with care and respect....very few abuse them.

Chutz
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tramacet
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   Posted 12/4/2007 5:43 PM (GMT -7)   
Dear Chutz
What you say is certainly the party line . You cant stop the medication or you will feel unbelievably horrible . You also cant get by with something milder like a tylenol 3r or advil because your body has developed tolerance . You cant even undergo a colonoscopy because the pain is so horrible because of the tremendous tolerance you have developed to opioids . You have horrific side effects ranging from constipation grogginess difficulty urinating and concentrating to reduced reflexes poor short term memory nightmares sleep disruption sleep apnea low sex drive sweats chills.

And thats if you you are taking it very very regularly .If you skip a dose or two you feel ten times worse .
But you are not addicted because they have redefined addiction to mean you are only addicted if you you are intentionally makng yourself worse , stealing it etc.

I think they should redefine winter as being warmer so I wouldnt have to shovel so much snow .

I am all in favour of making people with pain feel better even if only temporarily and partially .It
unfortunately has been my experience that these people (95% nothing is 100%) feel better in the short term and worse in the longterm .Look at the post of the lady who has 4 good 1hr periods out of 24 hrs on opioids . I bet her doctor wished he or she had never started thepatient on opioids.
I will never know exactly how the patient would feel if she had never taken opioids , but probably better than she feels now . My own personal and clinical observations - not supported by clinical studies (yet) but by tons of experience.

"I would like to say that what seems obvious to people and what does not seem obvious are to a cetain extent a function of time " Albert Einstein in August1920
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