Cutting back on oxycontin...question

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Chutz
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   Posted 12/15/2007 6:11 PM (GMT -7)   
Hi all,

I've been on oxycontin for over two years with percocets for added help. I decided to cut back because I just don't like the side effects. Not sure if I'll totally get off but.... I had been taking 20mg oxy/4 per day plus 4 percocet 5/325. I cut back to only the oxycontin. Now I've cut back to 3 oxy/day and maybe 1 or 2 percocet if needed. Still below where I was.

The question I have is...going at this rate will I likely feel side effects? Withdrawal? During the day I get hot flashes and sweats off and on. Is that from the cutbacks? Also nausea that is light and comes and goes. If it's just side effects I can deal with it knowing it will go away. Otherwise I need to find out what this is.

Thanks in advance for any insight...
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   Posted 12/16/2007 7:00 AM (GMT -7)   
Chutz did you talk to your Dr. nono
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   Posted 12/16/2007 10:50 AM (GMT -7)   
I see him every 4 weeks so we do keep in touch closely. It's hard to discern a case of the sweats between fibro, insulin lows and taking pain meds. If they subside then I will probably have my answer.

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   Posted 12/16/2007 2:49 PM (GMT -7)   

Chutz, I get the hot flashes and sweats during the day.  I can be fine one minute and the next I'm flushed and fanning myself silly.  I'm not sure if it's the fibro or the Evista I take for osteoporosis but it is irritating.  I also get the mild nausea periodically.  I'm not sure what causes that either.  I just never thought much about it.  It doesn't last long.  So, this could possibly be the fibro.

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   Posted 12/16/2007 6:24 PM (GMT -7)   
Good point Sherrine. This is why I posted it...to see if anyone else has had this going on. I've never had "hot flashes", the HRT takes care of that but sometimes my meds don't set well and doc keeps me supplied with anti-nausea meds. Don't want to take them every day tho.

I appreciate your input,
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   Posted 12/17/2007 1:06 AM (GMT -7)   
Hi Chutz it's been awhile. I hope all is well.

I can relate 100% about the hot flashes and sweating. With myself I find that after about the 8th-12th hour of taking the Oxycontin is when these issues show up.

It is almost like clockwork. When I take my next dose it disappears with in 30 minutes. It is very unnerving not too mention uncomfortable at times.

So to me it almost sounds like some mild withdrawal. If it becomes more of a problem maybe you should mention it to the doctor.

I would also like to lower my medication. I am currently taking the Oxycontin 60mg twice a day along with Oxycodone 15mg up to three a day for BT pain. Although I usually only take one maybe one and a half.


I wish you good luck with reducing your medications.

Hopefully your pain levels will stay low.

Post Edited (quahog) : 12/18/2007 12:26:20 PM (GMT-7)


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   Posted 12/17/2007 9:06 AM (GMT -7)   
Chutz
I agree with Quahog
I was trying to cut back on the Oxy's as well from 80 mg bid plus percocets for BT pain and I did start taking 40 mg at night ( doc gave me both MG).......I started gettting woke soaked like you would not believe hair like I had just got out of shower and had to change all my night clothes and sheets ............
I think it just might be w/ d IMHO ...........Just my half cent worth
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   Posted 12/17/2007 9:25 AM (GMT -7)   
Glenn and Lyn,

Thanks so much for your responses. It really helps me to know what others have experienced. I will be extra watchful! If I get the shakes between doses I take a percocet (5/325) but that's better than more oxy. I'm giving this dose a month to settle down then will reevaluate. My pain level isn't worse at this level so I'm hopeful I can get down a little more.

Thanks again!
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   Posted 12/17/2007 10:07 AM (GMT -7)   
Please do Chutz..........I am doing same thing as you for same reasons and also my DIL keeps wanting them sooooooo..........anyways the dizzy's come out of no where as do the legs not being there it feels like and TIRED
Cold fingers /toes like ice .......fever then chills .....it has not been fun but I am getting better with taking the percs as well
Doc told me I could take 3 percs every 4 hrs ...........am up to 113 lbs now so at least that helps ...
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   Posted 12/17/2007 12:57 PM (GMT -7)   
Chutz, I also take 20 mg Oxycontin along with Oxycodone for BT pain. I am assuming due to Fibro (which I was recently diagnosed with) you take Lyrica correct? I have rounds of what I can describe as "chilly sweats" like my skin is cold and clammy but I will sweat in weird places, like my face, knees & elbows. It's very weird. I also get cases of nausea/vomiting which I never did get before. I have always had a fairly tough stomache. So my PM Dr has given me a script for Phenergan to help with the nausea. I also get what feels like fluttering through my arms and legs, which the Lyrica helps. I can say I do get really bad headaches when I forget to take my meds. So it could be a possibility. I have had some things I can just stop whereas it is recommened to wean yourself off of the med. I know I have read Lyrica is a tough med to come off of. I also take Zoloft and its a hard one as well, my PCP warned me to not stop the Zoloft or I would have severe withdrawal symptoms. I hope this helps you some. And I hope you feel better soon. The only thing I can say I love taking bubble baths when I feel weird. The wayer helps with the pain. Take care!

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   Posted 12/17/2007 1:22 PM (GMT -7)   
Thanks for the insight. I tried Lyrica and didn't last long. It made me so ill. I have anti nausea med to help with that. I think my stomach has had enough of pills and is fighting back...lol. Those sweats are annoying but it's a comfort to know others get them too.

I'll push thru and make it with all of your encouragement.

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Did you try neurontin? its a milder version of lyrica. helps with fibro/nerve pain. but, i have also been recently in the hospital/diagnosed with some colon issues- (i just noticed that in your signature). they are only guessing at the diagnosis, they couldn't tell exactly from the cat scan so i have to have a colonoscopy to find out for sure the issue. i think a lot of my nausea is from that. i am lucky to have a good relationship with both my pain and primary drs, so i am comfortable asking them questions about side effects, withdrawals, etc. my PM also understood that i was in a lot of pain due to both issues that i had and even upped my dosage on my oxycodone temporarily since the vomiting is effecting my body overall. there are some sites who list medication side effects. i mean everyone is different. what may effect me, may not you.... and vice versa. i applaud you for trying to kick the meds, i know i would be lost without mine, i have tried and couldn't make it past a week i was in so much pain. i know that you need to be weened off oxy. gramps usually has a lot of insite, i know he is under the weather right now, but maybe send a post to him. now have you ever tried methadone? i did it for a little while, the PM drs here couldn't prescibe a BT med while i was on it, so i chose the oxycontin for ER. actually Gramps was the one who helped me decide to try methadone. i was a little nervous due to the rep it has, but it is honestly one of the best meds i ever had. there is no fuzzy feeling. my PCP also said methadone is a very easy drug to come off of. maybe you should look into it or discuss that with your dr. i only had 5 mg and it really worked well. hope this helps! best wishes in your path. -Shannon.

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YOu are right Chutz....you will make it ........
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   Posted 12/18/2007 9:35 AM (GMT -7)   
You are all so sweet. Thanks for the nice comments, Lyn.

Yes, I've tried neurontin. Didn't do anything for my pain. I know I'll never be totally off of pain meds but want to find the least amount I can live with. I will do some research on the meth. I agree that the stigma puts off but it sounds like it's worth checking out. Hope Gramps gets back soon. He's such a sweetie.

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   Posted 12/20/2007 6:29 AM (GMT -7)   
Hoping things are getting better for you Chutz.....I am getting there......you will too and I know what you mean about why you are doing this as I am doing for same reasons ..plus...........
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   Posted 12/20/2007 10:07 PM (GMT -7)   
Seem to be but it does seem like a very long time for withdrawal symptoms to keep up. Maybe because it's so gradual and the symptoms are slight. I got the sweats while out shopping today but managed to white-knuckle thru it.

Keep in touch!
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I am so PROUD of you

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   Posted 12/28/2007 7:17 PM (GMT -7)   
Chutz,
I don't know if this will help you but I recently took myself off Oxycontin ER and IR. I was on 40 mg three times  a day and then 5--10 mg of oxycodone IR for breakthrough.
What I did to taper was this.
First cut was too big so please don't do this.....but I went from 40 mg ER down to 25 mg ( one 20 mg ER and one 5 mg IR) . This brought on withdrawal symptoms that were moderate in intensity. The worst day was the second one where I just felt really crappy, like I was getting the flu....
I stayed at that dose for three days.....then I would cut down by 5 mg every three days. I kept the withdrawal symptoms down , actually was not bothered at all with any withdrawal symptoms from that point on.
I would get the sweating thing going on with the meds but I also was on baclofen and Lyrica at the same time so I'm not sure which medication caused the sweating but it was like I had come from a shower and my hair was dripping wet, my chest, etc....it would last about 15 minutes and stop.
I wanted to get a real gauge on my pain levels ( we were going to switch to Opana since the Oxy had ceased to be helpful as it once was and I didn't want to keep going up in dosage).
I also wanted to see if I could just go with a prn medication instead of the long acting ones, but as you know that didn't work.
I hope this helps you....the withdrawal symptoms seem to be worst on the 2nd day if you are going to have them.....if you can ride out those days, it gets better on the third day....the worst is over.
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   Posted 12/28/2007 9:21 PM (GMT -7)   
kttn251997- Hi I'm new on this site and have experienced coming off of both oxycontin and methadone. I don't know why your dr told you methadone was easy to come off of because personally I had more trouble coming off of the methadone than the oxycontin. See in order to get me off of the oxy they put me on methadone cocktails, that way they could wean my dose without me knowing (a blind cocktail). Well, they were only suppose to taper the dose something like 5mg every three days, but pretty soon I would start feeling really anxious with stomache cramps. When I told them something was wrong they must have messed up the dose they checked sure enough the had dropped 15mg instead. Once the dose got fixed it was better until the very end finally I just had to ride it out 72 hours of feeling like crap and no sleep at all. Then, it was over if you ever want to talk feel free.
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