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Mac_Gyver
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   Posted 1/2/2008 3:24 PM (GMT -7)   
I Know this has been asked many times before but I cannot find the post anywhere. what is they best probiotic to take. i know there are several expensive ones and there are a couple that I know are taken by the same people here. what do you suggest. VSL?
Symptoms Of Crohn's June of '06 (21 years old 285lbs). Colonoscopy in Jan '07 no sign of Crohn's.
Surgery for a Fistula in April '07, diagnosed suggestive Crohn's in May '07. August '07 small bowel follow
through, diagnosed with Crohn's (23 years old 165lbs). On HUMIRA, Prednisone

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Post Edited (FinalMacGyver) : 1/2/2008 4:01:06 PM (GMT-7)


miguelblanco
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   Posted 1/2/2008 3:29 PM (GMT -7)   
Hi,

I am getting info about the Probiotics as well. Here is the thread where a couple brands have been mentioned:
http://www.healingwell.com/community/default.aspx?f=17&m=1005218
Type I Diabetes- 28 yrs. (MiniMed Insulin Pump)
Celiac Disease- 6 yrs.
Crohn's Disease- 1+ year (Nov. '06)


pb4
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   Posted 1/2/2008 4:01 PM (GMT -7)   
I use primadophilus reuteri made by natures way, not expensive at all, only one/day is needed at 90 cap bottle lasts me 90 days and I pay 29.00 cdn...has other benefits too, aids with lactose intolerance, high cholesterol and for women, vaginal health...still fine for men to take of course...it also has guaranteed intestinal release.

I love it.

:)
My bum is broken....there's a big crack down the middle of it!  LOL  :)


MoonShadow
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   Posted 1/2/2008 5:04 PM (GMT -7)   

 

My two main suggestions for choosing a good quality probiotic are:

 

1) Only buy brands from the refrigerator section in the store and keep in the refrigerator at home.

 

2) Buy a brand from a “practitioner only range”, rather than the commercial brands "directly off shelf" as advised by the shop staff. It may mean you have to make an appointment with a naturopath first but these professionals normally have the very best top-of-the-range brands available.

 

In Australia, I use a range called Metagenics, which contains 20 billion organisms per capsule.

 

I have had these links saved under my favourites for a while now and often refer to them. I have found them informative and useful.

 

You obviously know a lot about probiotics, so I include these links for others that may not:

 

http://health.ninemsn.com.au/article.aspx?id=72149

 

http://www.usprobiotics.org

 

http://www.medscape.com/viewarticle/455964

 

http://www.scienceblog.com/community/older/2003/F/20033964.html

(you may need to copy and paste the links?)

We have a yoghourt at home called Jalna. On the label it says it contains 200 million live cultures of friendly bacteria per serve but it does not say how much a serve is. I am lactose intolerant so I can’t eat it. A tablet or powder would be much easier.


MoonShadow.

Australia.

Female 37.

Sick since 1998 – finally diagnosed 2003.

No drugs (last drugs were taken in 2005).

Healing myself thorough diet & natural methods.

Using plant derived MultiGest Enzymes capsules as part of diet.

 

Feeling fantastic!


pb4
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   Posted 1/2/2008 5:49 PM (GMT -7)   
Yogurt actually has the lactose broken down so for lactose intolerant people they shouldn't have problems with eating yogurt, when I had lactose issues yogurt didn't bother me, thanks to taking the primadophilus daily which aids with lactose intolerance issues, I no longer have to worry when ingesting any dairy.

For IBD sufferes, a minimum of billion cultures is sufficient.

:)
My bum is broken....there's a big crack down the middle of it!  LOL  :)


EMom
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   Posted 1/2/2008 6:50 PM (GMT -7)   
I've been very happy with Theralac. You can read extensively about it by adding .com after the name. It may be a bit more expensive than some, but it has 20 billion organisms and 5 + 2 strains in an acid-proof case allowing it to pass through stomach acid and colonize the intestines at full strength.

I sound like a walking ad. Oh well...it's doing its job...

It seems there are more and more good brands out there now that probiotics are beginning to get sooooo much attention. Recent studies say they improve immune function in general. Probably everyone should take them! My recommendation: do a bit of research on different brands, and then go with your gut. ugh...bad pun...

I was surprised when I checked out the price of VSL3. Not as bad as I was expecting from reading other posts. I hope to purchase it in the next week or two and add it to the potpourri.

Good luck to you!
EMom

Grateful for everyone's help here!

Mother to 15 year old boy diagnosed in June, 2007.
Currently taking Asacol, omega 3s, digestive enzymes, probiotics, iron, vit. C, calcium and a good multivitamin.

Started The Maker's Diet in early September.


CrazyHarry
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   Posted 1/2/2008 8:02 PM (GMT -7)   
pb4 - from what i've been reading, most yogurt isnt allowed to incubate/ferment long enough for all the natural lactose in milk to be broken down. some of it is so it makes it easier to digest than milk. i can tolerate commercial yogurt as long as i dont over due it but i can tolerate only a little bit of milk, like in a small latte. i've been experimenting making my own yogurt (yogurt makers are cheap). they recommend incubation periods of at least 24 hours to allow the bacteria to properly digest all the lactose. just thought you may find this interesting.
Crazy Harry

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Crohn's since 1993 (17 yrs old then)
surgery in July '05 - removal of 2 inches at ileum and 8 inches of sigmoid colon (had fistula into bladder)
Nov '05 developed colonic inertia; July '06 told i needed ostomy surgery
began maker's diet in August '06 - now feeling the best ever with no symptoms of colonic inertia and i kept my colon
med free as of 10/31/07


pb4
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   Posted 1/2/2008 8:38 PM (GMT -7)   
But what really are yogurt's health advantages, and do commercial products deliver these advantages?

Broad health benefits

"The one thing we're sure of is that yogurt is of benefit to marginally lactose tolerant individuals," says William Sandine, professor, Oregon State University. The enzyme lactase (or |beta~-galactosidase)--which is stable in the yogurt culture S. thermophilus--breaks down much of the lactose to galactose and glucose.

:)
My bum is broken....there's a big crack down the middle of it!  LOL  :)


lovepink
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Date Joined Sep 2007
Total Posts : 182
   Posted 1/2/2008 9:07 PM (GMT -7)   
VSL-3 really works for a lot of people! I suggest using this one. It is expensive but good. Unfortunately, I am so ill right now that nothing helps and if anything did anything, I would prob. not be able to notice what is helping and what is not, etc. I highly suggest it.
GOOD LUCK TO YOU!
I have had Crohn's since I was 21 years old and I am now 27....

On HUMIRA....


miguelblanco
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Total Posts : 131
   Posted 1/3/2008 11:09 AM (GMT -7)   
EMom said...
I've been very happy with Theralac. You can read extensively about it by adding .com after the name. It may be a bit more expensive than some, but it has 20 billion organisms and 5 + 2 strains in an acid-proof case allowing it to pass through stomach acid and colonize the intestines at full strength.

I sound like a walking ad. Oh well...it's doing its job...

It seems there are more and more good brands out there now that probiotics are beginning to get sooooo much attention. Recent studies say they improve immune function in general. Probably everyone should take them! My recommendation: do a bit of research on different brands, and then go with your gut. ugh...bad pun...

I was surprised when I checked out the price of VSL3. Not as bad as I was expecting from reading other posts. I hope to purchase it in the next week or two and add it to the potpourri.

Good luck to you!

I just read up on the Theralac product/website. They are located here in Minnesota! Who knew?! tongue
I called and asked them about possible ingredients that would be a problem for me. Now I am unsure if I can take this. I asked about the worst allegies I have: fish/seafood and tree nuts. They said no problem on the tree nuts, but that there is an ingredient, sodium alginate, that is derived from seaweed. Uggh. I can't win. Not sure if I can take this now. skull
Type I Diabetes- 28 yrs. (MiniMed Insulin Pump)
Celiac Disease- 6 yrs.
Crohn's Disease- 1+ year (Nov. '06)


miguelblanco
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   Posted 1/3/2008 11:33 AM (GMT -7)   
What about the Dannon Activa Yogurt? Is anyone eating that to get their probiotic dosage?

UGGHH!! Called Dannon and the Activia is not Gluten-Free. eyes
Type I Diabetes- 28 yrs. (MiniMed Insulin Pump)
Celiac Disease- 6 yrs.
Crohn's Disease- 1+ year (Nov. '06)

Post Edited (miguelblanco) : 1/3/2008 11:52:15 AM (GMT-7)


EMom
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   Posted 1/3/2008 12:31 PM (GMT -7)   
Yup...haven't heard good things about Activa. You'd be better off buying an organic whole milk yogurt. Better yet, make your own. Many people here do. You can post a question and they'll tell you how.

Maybe you wouldn't be allergic to the seaweed ingredient...

Don't give up! There are many good brands. You'll just have to do your homework to make sure they pass your requirements! Again, good luck to you!
EMom

Grateful for everyone's help here!

Mother to 15 year old boy diagnosed in June, 2007.
Currently taking Asacol, omega 3s, digestive enzymes, probiotics, iron, vit. C, calcium and a good multivitamin.

Started The Maker's Diet in early September.


MikeB
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   Posted 1/3/2008 2:05 PM (GMT -7)   
MY Gi is very high on the VSL3 and considers it the "Cadlillac" or probiotics, having had good results with many of his Crohn's patients. So I started it ten days ago and we shall see. He says (and their promotional literature repeats this) that it contains many more active bugs than most over the counter probiotics. In fact there have even been a few small clinical trials testing VSL3 that found some strong evidence of therapuetic benefit. I'm reserving judgment but open to see how it works.

miguelblanco
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   Posted 1/3/2008 2:11 PM (GMT -7)   
MikeB said...
MY Gi is very high on the VSL3 and considers it the "Cadlillac" or probiotics, having had good results with many of his Crohn's patients. So I started it ten days ago and we shall see. He says (and their promotional literature repeats this) that it contains many more active bugs than most over the counter probiotics. In fact there have even been a few small clinical trials testing VSL3 that found some strong evidence of therapuetic benefit. I'm reserving judgment but open to see how it works.

Are you using the pill form?
(just looked at their website, thanks.) scool
Type I Diabetes- 28 yrs. (MiniMed Insulin Pump)
Celiac Disease- 6 yrs.
Crohn's Disease- 1+ year (Nov. '06)


nikki0294
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   Posted 1/3/2008 2:40 PM (GMT -7)   
Some VSL#3 contains corn starch which for some of us Chronies puts are bowels in an uproar. The pill form does not have corn starch and neither does the lemon flavor sachet. The unflavored packet DOES have corn starch. unfortunately I learned after I was too sick. Dannon Active is a good probiotic but again milk based. Culturelle is another good one too!!


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