Maker's Diet--only thing that has helped

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Elisa W.
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   Posted 1/5/2008 7:22 PM (GMT -7)   
Hello,

I suffer from constant gas and loose stool. The only thing that I have found has helped me after almost three years has been the Maker's Diet.

http://www.amazon.com/Makers-Diet-Jordan-Rubin/dp/B000HOJGKY/ref=pd_bbs_sr_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1199586001&sr=8-1

Basically it makes you eat a limited diet. The diet did not result in any gas, I was amazed. My energy level went up when I stated to consume probiotics and digestive enzymes.

The basis of the diet is..avoid processed food and try to eat organic. This can be expensive, but I for one would like to live through this, so I'm on board.

Best
Diagonosed and operated on January 10th, 2005 in Santiago, Chile during my last semester of Grad school. 


EMom
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   Posted 1/5/2008 9:42 PM (GMT -7)   
So glad you're having great success! We are also having success on the diet. I say "we" because our whole family started when my son did. It has been a bit of an adjustment, but I've done more difficult things in life. And an added bonus: Our family is healthier this winter than ever before... knock on wood!

CrazyHarry here is also having fabulous success on the diet. If you haven't read any of his posts, you might take a look.

Congrats and continued health to you!
EMom
Mother to 15 year old boy diagnosed in June, 2007.
Currently taking Asacol, omega 3s, digestive enzymes, probiotics, iron, vit. C, calcium w/D3 and a good multivitamin.
Started The Maker's Diet in early September.


CrazyHarry
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   Posted 1/6/2008 8:09 AM (GMT -7)   
i cannot attest enough to the efficacy of the maker's diet. in july 2006 i was facing a colectomy and having an ostomy when i discovered the maker's diet. needless to say i didnt have the surgery, bowels are fine now, i have been off all my meds for over 2 months and i have felt symptom free for even longer. to me this diet has literally been a life saver. i strongly encourage every one on this board to try it, but not just go through the motions. you have commit yourself to it for the 40 days it prescribes and i really believe you'll be amazed at the levels of health you can reach.

i'm planning on starting the diet over again on jan 14, going through all 3 phases (phase 1-2 are detox phases, phase 3 is the maintenance stage where you stay at for life). any one want to join me???
Crazy Harry

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Crohn's since 1993 (17 yrs old then)
surgery in July '05 - removal of 2 inches at ileum and 8 inches of sigmoid colon (had fistula into bladder)
Nov '05 developed colonic inertia; July '06 told i needed ostomy surgery
began maker's diet in August '06 - now feeling the best ever with no symptoms of colonic inertia and i kept my colon
med free as of 10/31/07


Illini
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   Posted 1/6/2008 8:48 AM (GMT -7)   
Is all the info you need in the book? I have requested it from the library, hopefully I can pick it up on Monday.

I'm not sure my husband will be so happy about adjusting his diet (or paying extra for organic). I'm guessing that following the diet strictly pretty much eliminates eating out at restaurants?

Any pointers/advice for someone who wants to try it?

redspot321
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   Posted 1/6/2008 12:03 PM (GMT -7)   
I am currently on my 3rd day of a "modified" Makers diet and I feel the best I have in months! I know the diet cant work that fast, I dont really know why Im feeling so good maybe I just have my hopes up.

I have read the Makers diet and this is basically what Im doing.

1. I am eating only Chicken, beef, lamb, fresh fish, and fresh fruit and veggies with every meal.
2. No ceral, dary/milk, or table sugar....peroid!
3. I drink chamomile tea with honey in the morning first thing, green tea in the afternoon with a small chunk of 85% Dark chocolate with very low sugar content
4. Flax oil 3 x day
5. Acidolphis 3 x day.
6. No bread pasta or empty carbs.

I usually eat 2 bows of ceral a day! I thought this would be best for me since I have bowel obstructions. I didnt realize the link between bacterial growth and sugar along with grain products. I have just been fueling the bacteria all along.

Look what sugar can do to your teeth!!!!! Im sure it does the same to your gut.

redspot321
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   Posted 1/6/2008 12:04 PM (GMT -7)   
also there giving the book away ay the the health store near my home.

EMom
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   Posted 1/6/2008 1:16 PM (GMT -7)   
redspot321 said...
also there giving the book away ay the the health store near my home.


Wow! That's my kinda health food store!!! I don't suppose you live in IL or MO...I need another copy for my mom! ;-)

Confused in IL, yes, I'd say the book explains all you need to know. I don't think the diet eliminates eating out, you will simply need to choose better restaurants. For instance, many nicer restaurants will prepare the meats redspot listed without sugary sauces, heavy breading or seasonings w/msg and other additives. (Whether they are organically raised is another question, but for one night out I don't believe it's imperative) Their veggies are likely prepared without these things too, but if not, you simply ask for them plain or for dressings on the side.

That said, we don't eat out nearly as much as we used to. That's one way I justify the increase in what I'm spending on organics at the store.

Pointers or advice? Get several main-meal recipes gathered up, make your list and go shopping. I don't really enjoy cooking, so I floundered in the beginning just finding enough main-meal things to eat that had any pizazz. Now I've gotten better at marinades and sauces to add that pizazz. Use the recipe section at the back of the book and also check out the SCD website and books. Many of their recipes "cross over". As I got better at the process I discovered how to alter favorite recipes I already have to conform. Also, don't know what I'd do without the bulk herb/seasoning section at our local health food store. They have things like taco seasoning that doesn't contain msg or sugar or starch. Very helpful!

Snacks were tricky at first--actually still are! If anyone has any input here, I would love some help! My son eats raw seeds and nuts often times, but he's tiring of that. He doesn't really care for a true trail mix w/dried fruit...so I'm still looking for snacky stuff. Bananas and other fruit do help, though.
EMom
Mother to 15 year old boy diagnosed in June, 2007.
Currently taking Asacol, omega 3s, digestive enzymes, probiotics, iron, vit. C, calcium w/D3 and a good multivitamin.
Started The Maker's Diet in early September.


Skjura
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   Posted 1/6/2008 2:49 PM (GMT -7)   
 
Hi,
I hope your diet will continue to help you all, I am so impressed that
you are working this hard to have a good health, and I am so glad it
helps! Keep the good work going!
 
With all the best from Ingrid :-)
 
Diagnosed CD June 2007. Have only used prednisone. Did make a difference while max dosed. Got my problems back when tapering.
 
Using Low Dose Naltrexone from sept. 2007. LDN is super! I am now in remission ;-)


Illini
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   Posted 1/6/2008 2:51 PM (GMT -7)   
Thanks for the help. I just added the SCD book and a recipe book to my library request list, hopefully I'll get those soon.

I'm not a big fan of cooking, which is why I'm a little concerned. We also work long hours so there's not alot of time for cooking, but in the past we have cooked in bulk or used a crock pot. We have one healthfood store in our town, so I'll check out their bulk seasonings.

One thing that we really like--more of a dessert but maybe a snack--is something that was introduced to us by an Egyptian friend. He cut open fresh dates and removed the pit, then filled the dates with chopped walnuts, and finally warmed the whole thing in the oven until the dates are soft.

Roni
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   Posted 1/6/2008 6:46 PM (GMT -7)   
What about homemade organic potato or veggie chips made in olive oil? I know you can even buy these types of chips at alot of grocery stores.
Are they no-no's?

Sometimes I like to make sweet potato french fries in olive oil with some garlic and sea salt and have that as a snack or meal.

Also, I make the fermented whole wheat pancakes plain and keep them as something like english muffin types, for my org. peanut butter and honey sandwiches. I also found some jams made with fruit and concentrated grape juice only. No additives, sugar, nothing artificial. Tastes beautiful too.

broomhilda
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   Posted 1/6/2008 10:33 PM (GMT -7)   
Elisa- So glad the maker's diet is helping you! Love that chicken broth even on good days! Also, just wanted to say HI 'cause you have the same first name as my daughter! Don't here it very often!
Dx'd Jan'06, 1st Resection 7/06, Predinsone, Humira, Imuran, B12 injections, Nexium. Secondary conditions: Psorasis, Acne, Fatigue, Joint Pain, Lactose Intolerant, gallstones, fibroid cysts, peri-menopausal.


EMom
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   Posted 1/8/2008 7:02 AM (GMT -7)   
Confused in IL said...
One thing that we really like--more of a dessert but maybe a snack--is something that was introduced to us by an Egyptian friend. He cut open fresh dates and removed the pit, then filled the dates with chopped walnuts, and finally warmed the whole thing in the oven until the dates are soft.


Oooo...that sounds good! I'm going to try it soon! Also, feel free to email me personally once you get going and I'd be happy to forward you some recipes I've accumulated.

Roni: The organic potato/veggie chips are iffy. It depends on how literally you would like to adopt the diet. White potato is not allowed on The Maker's Diet or the SCD diet. I don't know what other veggies are included in those chips, but sweet potatoes are allowed on the MD, but not--if I recall correctly--on SCD.

There are subtle differences in these two diets. I suppose this is where one has to approach it by trial and error. For instance, my son seems to tolerate spelt bread, therefore we have not yet switched to sprouted bread as the MD recommends (that said, he doesn't eat that much bread). I don't believe the SCD allows bread in any form. (Someone please correct me if I'm wrong.)

This probably doesn't answer your question very well, but then there are no definitive answers when it comes to this, are there? Ultimately one has to do what works for them!
EMom
Mother to 15 year old boy diagnosed in June, 2007.
Currently taking Asacol, omega 3s, digestive enzymes, probiotics, iron, vit. C, calcium w/D3 and a good multivitamin.
Started The Maker's Diet in early September.


Skjura
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   Posted 1/8/2008 11:11 AM (GMT -7)   
Emom,

Scd allows breads made of almonds. I'm sure you know how to bake delicious cakes of almond, eggs and sugar, well, the bread is almost made in the same way, but of course now sugar. Elaine Gottschall teaches us why to avoid food full of starch and carbohydrates and the benefits we get from doing it.
From I.
 
Diagnosed CD June 2007. Have only used prednisone. Did make a difference while max dosed. Got my problems back when tapering.
 
Using Low Dose Naltrexone from sept. 2007. LDN is super! I am now in remission ;-)


Kittikatt
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   Posted 1/8/2008 12:28 PM (GMT -7)   
I read the Maker's Diet book 3 years ago when I was first Dx.  I never did really get on a great routine of doing it, though.  It hard when you're trying to do it alone.  However, it was easy for me to leave off pork!  That wasn't too big a deal to me.
 
But I'm curious to find out from those of you who have been really good about following the diet what you do about the PROBIOTICS.  Did you order Dr. Rubin's?  Did you buy them from GNC?  What kind?  I'm so confused about this area of the diet!
 
 
 

praying4healing
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   Posted 1/8/2008 12:34 PM (GMT -7)   
I was going to post and ask questions about this diet? Is this a practical diet for someone who doesn't make much money? No pasta or bread at all?! Wow....it sounds so difficult
25 y/o female- crohns disease since 14
Ileostomy pending-very worried
Tried asacol,pentasa,prednisone,remicade,6mp,azasan, no avail
Seatons placed
Worst year ever!

"For God has not given us the spirit of fear....."
Where does mine come from?!


EMom
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   Posted 1/8/2008 12:46 PM (GMT -7)   
chas036, the SCD (Specific Carbohydrate Diet) is one of the diets we're referring to here and is Elaine Gottschall's (author of "Breaking the Vicious Cycle") diet on which she based the book. I'm really glad the diet is working for your wife! There is also a lot of info online on her website, still maintained I believe by her daughter for whom she designed the diet. Here's the link:

http://www.breakingtheviciouscycle.info/

Also, I love love love this interview with Elaine Gottschall!! Click on the first interview that says "Right Click Here"

http://www.breakingtheviciouscycle.info/elaine/elaine.htm
EMom
Mother to 15 year old boy diagnosed in June, 2007.
Currently taking Asacol, omega 3s, digestive enzymes, probiotics, iron, vit. C, calcium w/D3 and a good multivitamin.
Started The Maker's Diet in early September.


EMom
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   Posted 1/8/2008 12:51 PM (GMT -7)   
Kittikatt said...
But I'm curious to find out from those of you who have been really good about following the diet what you do about the PROBIOTICS. Did you order Dr. Rubin's? Did you buy them from GNC? What kind? I'm so confused about this area of the diet!


Kittikatt, we don't use Rubin's company's probiotics. No particular reason. I was using less powerful probiotics for me long before my son's diagnosis, so this was something I was a bit familiar with. We now use Theralac, but there are many many good brands out there. The most powerful one available is VSL#3. We may give it a try soon. I try to steer clear of GNC. jmho...
EMom
Mother to 15 year old boy diagnosed in June, 2007.
Currently taking Asacol, omega 3s, digestive enzymes, probiotics, iron, vit. C, calcium w/D3 and a good multivitamin.
Started The Maker's Diet in early September.


Kittikatt
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   Posted 1/8/2008 12:55 PM (GMT -7)   
Emom: So where do you buy your probiotics if you don't get them from GNC?

EMom
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   Posted 1/8/2008 1:23 PM (GMT -7)   
Theralac.com has what we use. I simply order them by phone. Better health food stores carry good brands, too. Here's a link to a discussion just last week or so here on the forum when we were all sharing the brand we like/use:

http://www.healingwell.com/community/default.aspx?f=17&m=1007040

I just read an article where a doctor stated it probably makes sense to alternate brands to get varying strains over time. Just another tidbit to confuse the matter even more!!! :-)
EMom
Mother to 15 year old boy diagnosed in June, 2007.
Currently taking Asacol, omega 3s, digestive enzymes, probiotics, iron, vit. C, calcium w/D3 and a good multivitamin.
Started The Maker's Diet in early September.


Roni
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   Posted 1/8/2008 10:19 PM (GMT -7)   

Roni: The organic potato/veggie chips are iffy. It depends on how literally you would like to adopt the diet. White potato is not allowed on The Maker's Diet or the SCD diet. I don't know what other veggies are included in those chips, but sweet potatoes are allowed on the MD, but not--if I recall correctly--on SCD.

There are subtle differences in these two diets. I suppose this is where one has to approach it by trial and error. For instance, my son seems to tolerate spelt bread, therefore we have not yet switched to sprouted bread as the MD recommends (that said, he doesn't eat that much bread). I don't believe the SCD allows bread in any form. (Someone please correct me if I'm wrong.)

This probably doesn't answer your question very well, but then there are no definitive answers when it comes to this, are there? Ultimately one has to do what works for them!

 
 
 
EMOM: 
Red skinned potatoes are allowed. They're used in the MD recipes at the back of the book. And I gotta say, I am glad, cause I love them!  ;-)

EMom
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   Posted 1/9/2008 5:44 AM (GMT -7)   
Skjura said...
Emom, Scd allows breads made of almonds. I'm sure you know how to bake delicious cakes of almond, eggs and sugar, well, the bread is almost made in the same way, but of course now sugar. Elaine Gottschall teaches us why to avoid food full of starch and carbohydrates and the benefits we get from doing it.
From I.


Thanks, Ingrid! Yes, I knew about almond flour. I made pumpkin pie at Thanksgiving and Christmas with almond flour crust and it was fabulous. Everyone agreed they like the almond crust better than the old traditional crust! (Which for me was Pillsbury!!! :-) )

Sadly, baking is lowest on my list of cooking things I enjoy. I have to work on that. I will try a bread recipe sometime soon!
EMom
Mother to 15 year old boy diagnosed in June, 2007.
Currently taking Asacol, omega 3s, digestive enzymes, probiotics, iron, vit. C, calcium w/D3 and a good multivitamin.
Started The Maker's Diet in early September.

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