What do you eat for cheeses and breads for the makers / SCD diet?

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redspot321
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   Posted 1/16/2008 11:20 AM (GMT -7)   
I kinda confused in the cheese I can have on the makers diet. I understand I cannot have processed cheese but can I have "pasturized, cultured," cheese?
 
Also what types of bread are you guys eating? From what I understand Ezekiel bread is about the safst thing I can eat. Let me know if theres any secret recipes out there.... tongue
 

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   Posted 1/16/2008 12:47 PM (GMT -7)   
I believe the Maker's Diet recommends raw cheese (CrazyHarry, correct me if I'm wrong). That means unpasteurized. We will not use this due to MAP concerns. My son currently eats no dairy. This was really, really tough for him initially because he loved cheese. He has adjusted now, though.

Yes, the Ezekiel Bread is the way to go short of making your own from sprouted grains. Also, the SCD has recipes for almond flour bread that Skurja here told me is very good. I haven't made any yet, but I did make pumpkin pie crusts over the holidays with almond flour and they were yummy!
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Mother to 15 year old boy diagnosed in June, 2007.
Currently taking Asacol, omega 3s, digestive enzymes, probiotics, iron, vit. C, calcium w/D3 and a good multivitamin.
Started The Maker's Diet in early September.


Illini
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   Posted 1/16/2008 1:48 PM (GMT -7)   
There is one other legal flour in SCD-- coconut flour.

(Only know this from browsing the website recently)

redspot321
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   Posted 1/16/2008 2:13 PM (GMT -7)   
How about Lunch meat? If it contains no nitrates / phosphates / preservitives. Is this safe? (besides pork)


Boar's head
"Their meats and cheeses contain no by-products, no cereals or fillers, and no artificial flavors or colors. Using only pure beef, turkey, chicken and pork, combined with real spices"


And cheese? If its presertive free and NOT PROCESSED.
There appear to be many higher end products that make these claims.

redspot321
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   Posted 1/16/2008 6:33 PM (GMT -7)   

CrazyHarry
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   Posted 1/16/2008 7:38 PM (GMT -7)   
makers

cheese:raw milk cheese (from cow, goat, sheep, etc) are recommended/are best. however anything organic will fly. you can have hard and soft cheeses. you can have feta, ricotta, cheddar, etc etc.

bread: sprouted grain bread is recommended/is best. but anything not from white flour works. look for whole wheat flour. there are other types of grains out there too: spelt, kamut, barley, sourdough, etc etc. also try gluten free. i believe eating gluten free helps us crohnies. there are other brands besides ezekiel, but they are harder to find. and just cos the bread says "organic" does not mean it is sprouted. it must say sprouted. scrutinize the ingredients. you'll find some contain added sugars/sweeteners and other "junk" in them, which truly dont belong in bread.

lunchmeats: no nitrates/nitrates - you want to see this on the label. from organic sources. applegate farms is the brand i believe maker's recommends. i can find it where i live in most health food stores. i'd rather eat a chicken breast than processed sandwich meat, but that is mho.



scd:

cheese: farmers cheese (aka dry curd cottage cheese, bakers cheese) is recommended. it does allow some other kinds but frowns upon them. most cheese is listed as illegal on this diet as they contain lactose. farmers cheese has most, if not all, of the lactose rich whey removed (or digested).

bread: illegal - it is a grain/starch/carbohydrate. it recommends you make your own bread using nut flours. recipes are included with the book on how to do this.

i dont think luncheon meats are legal. check the website. it has an enormous list of what foods are considered legal/illegal.



if by processed cheese you mean cheese wiz and string cheese and kraft american singles, etc etc - then yes, these are illegal on both diets. the better the cheese, the more expensive. these diets are expensive but oh so worth it to be, in my case, symptom and med free.

i hope this helps!
Crazy Harry

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Crohn's since 1993 (17 yrs old then)
surgery in July '05 - removal of 2 inches at ileum and 8 inches of sigmoid colon (had fistula into bladder)
Nov '05 developed colonic inertia; July '06 told i needed ostomy surgery
began maker's diet in August '06 - now feeling the best ever with no symptoms of colonic inertia and i kept my colon
med free as of 10/31/07


Roni
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   Posted 1/16/2008 9:05 PM (GMT -7)   
I eat goat mozzarella, goat yogurt, cow mozzarella, cow old cheddar, and parmesan.
I don't think you can buy unpasturised milk products in Canada, but I try to buy organic.       
 
Emom, organic cheese is okay. All kinds, cheddar, mozzarella, you can even make lasagna with whole wheat pasta (just not all the time), I make eggplant parmesan sometimes. It's sooooooooo good.
 

Post Edited (Roni) : 1/16/2008 9:26:16 PM (GMT-7)


njmom
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   Posted 1/16/2008 9:14 PM (GMT -7)   

CrazyHarry's summary of SCD is pretty good, but not quite correct about the cheese issue.

Actually, there's quite a long list of cheeses that you can eat as much as you want of even on SCD - they are in the back of the last edition of the book, "Breaking the Vicious Cycle." There's also a list of cheeses you can eat, but only in moderation. And then there are the forbidden cheeses, like mozarella. If you are thinking of going on the SCD diet, read the book, first. To make sure you fully understand it.   

The following web site also tells you which cheeses are OK for SCD on the legal/illegal list:

http://www.breakingtheviciouscycle.info/legal/legal_illegal_d-n.htm

Elaine, the author of "Breaking the Vicious Cycle," passed away before she was able to resolve the question of how long cheese needed to be aged in order to get rid of lactose.

Lactose is not allowed on the SCD diet. This is partly why yogurt is aged 24 hours - to get rid of the lactose (the good bacteria eat it). So what we do is buy cheese aged 6 months or longer, like Manchego.


Roni
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   Posted 1/16/2008 9:43 PM (GMT -7)   
I eat mostly sourdough rye bread. Sometimes I buy sourdough cinnamin raisin apple pitas made with some whole wheat and honey in them.
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