Im in the hospital. The surgon is on the way in!!!!!! I need Advice!!!!!!!

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redspot321
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   Posted 1/22/2008 10:29 PM (GMT -7)   
confused   confused confused
 
I started the makers diet on the first of this month and have never felt better!
 
Until yesterday that is. I have had intermitent abdominal pain for 2 months now ( not the usual RLQ pain that I associated with my CD) more of a diffuse pain across the entire abdomen. When I mentioned this to mi GI he said it was probabaly due to the continued use of steroids, That it was more of an irritation issue noe neccessarly caused by CD but rather the TX.
 
 
Anyway this morning I had waves of severe pain at  a level of 8-9 with underlying pain of about4 on a 9-10 scale. CT shows the terminal  illeum is slightly inflamed but I have an abcess!!!!!!
 
Im freaking here. Im wondering if the makers diet worsened the abcess? What is done yo remove this?
 
The CAT scan says its 2-5cm and not ruptured.
 
Sorry if any of this does not make sense, they have given me some pretty strong Narcs...
 
 
 

Gloriousm84
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   Posted 1/23/2008 12:48 AM (GMT -7)   
I am not sure whether or not the diet would cause this, but if I were to guess I would say no. However I really dont have a clue. Eeek an abscess that never feels good. I just had a foot of my ileum taken out with some other goods and although it is a painful surgery it is worth it if you are having a lot of flare ups and have no more medication benefits. Not to be decided lightly, but when you have used all of your options it is a good option. Hmmm...maybe they will talk about some medication therapy like remicade for an abscess but I am not too sure. If you are in the hospital just concentrate on getting better, and dont worry too much about the cause of the abscess rather than just getting it all healed up right now. I am sorry that I dont have much advice, but I wish you the best of luck and hope that you feel better soon!
Diagnosed: 2003, age 18 (had issues with it since I was 12)
Meds for crohns: Prednisone, Oxycodone, Oxycontin, Remicade,
6-mp.
Other medical issues: Hereditary Spherocytosis (hemolytic anemia) iron deficient anemia, polyarthralgia, ovarian cysts, Migraines
Surgeries: Spleen, Gallbladder, Tonsils, Adenoids, foot of terminal Ileum, Appendix, Ileocecal valve, bit of colon


randynoguts
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   Posted 1/23/2008 1:41 AM (GMT -7)   
i also doubt that your diet played a role. fistulas and abcess are just what we do! i bet that the cause of the abcess is a small hole or fistula in the intestines somwhere. as the drainage leaks out the body tries to containit by making a wall around it, becoming a abcess. hopefully it will be able to be draind with a needle and wont require surgery. however in lots of our experiances, these do not heal up on there own. good luck
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redspot321
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   Posted 1/23/2008 12:23 PM (GMT -7)   
well ive been here 28 hrs and still have not seen the surgeon. Im getting a bit impatient!

Im glad you guys dont think this abscess was caused bythe diet. I cant believe I felt so good and now this...

Anyway do any of you have experience with having an abcess drained vs removed?

Also how dangerous is a ruptured abcess?

MikeB
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   Posted 1/23/2008 12:54 PM (GMT -7)   
A ruptured abscess will spill infection into the abdominal cavity, which can lead to peritonitis, which can be life threatening. The abscess you describe is not quite a surgical emergency at this point, but it calls for prompt removal or drainage with aggressive antibiotic therapy. And I concur with the above posts, this is unlikely to be rhe result of any diet change . . . most likely a slowly evolving fistula that has just now reached crisis stage.

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   Posted 1/23/2008 12:58 PM (GMT -7)   

Hi there, this is Kitt.  My husband had an abscess and he was not on Maker's Diet.  The surgeon did a guided needle aspiration and placed a drainage tube.  Then my hubby was dischaged to my care and for 8 weeks had home health come in and do IV antibiotics.  He also was on full liquids, high protein, high calorie diet during that time. When the next CT was taken the abscess was gone.  He did have to go in for a resection however and that was his 3rd resection..............it was done in 1993.  He has done well since that last surgery. 

Take care and know we are thinking of you. 


 
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redspot321
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   Posted 1/23/2008 6:08 PM (GMT -7)   
well it looks like Im going home tomorrow. The surgeon says it "could be" a small abcess or just mesenteric infection.
He dosents want to open me up and just expolpre. The zosyn and STEROIDS seem to be making things better. Im having an anxiety attack right now ;)

Thank You all for your help!!!!!!

redspot321
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   Posted 1/23/2008 6:12 PM (GMT -7)   
food for thought ......after being on the makers diet for three weks here is the first meal served to me by the hospital.

Vanilla Milk Shake------1st four ingredients - {Milk, corn oil, High fructose syurp, sugar}
CHOC pudding
Cherry jello
Milk
Juice from concentrate

YOU CANT GET AWAY FROM THIS CRAP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

FitzyK23
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   Posted 1/23/2008 9:08 PM (GMT -7)   
I was curious if the hospital could cater to crohns friendly diets. The only thing from your list I could have is the juice... I'm lactose sensitive, chocolate sensitive, and allergic to red dye. I would be a disaster in there.
26 Year old married female.  Diagnosed w/ CD 3 years ago, IBS for over 10 years before that, which was probably the CD.  Currently on Pentasa 4 pills/4x day, hysociamine prn, nexium, and ortho evra.  Good times!!!
 
 


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   Posted 1/23/2008 10:12 PM (GMT -7)   
I'm so sorry redspot for what you're going through right now, I hope things improve very quickly for you...feel better.

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redspot321
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   Posted 1/24/2008 6:32 PM (GMT -7)   

Im home. Its amazing last week I was taking 3mg of entocort.....

Today.....

40 pred mad 1500 flagyl mad 1000 cipro mad 9mg entocort. I can understand the Antibiotics but WHY the PRED??!?

 


FitzyK23
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   Posted 1/24/2008 7:15 PM (GMT -7)   
Are Pred and Entocort safe together?  And are Flagyl and Cipro safe together? Hmmmm
26 Year old married female.  Diagnosed w/ CD 3 years ago, IBS for over 10 years before that, which was probably the CD.  Currently on Pentasa 4 pills/4x day, hysociamine prn, nexium, and ortho evra.  Good times!!!
 
 


chroniemomx2
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   Posted 1/24/2008 7:18 PM (GMT -7)   
Yes, flagyl and cipro are safe together.

jodyisme
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   Posted 1/24/2008 7:27 PM (GMT -7)   
i really send good vibes for you to feel better soon. entocort and pred are both steroids but work in very different ways on the body and places. obviously he is bringing out the big guns fully loaded to avoid having to be invasive. pred is systemic while entocort is more localized in the gut and not much in the body as a whole. as explained to me, ento sorta "coats" and doesnt go systemic as much as pred does.
 
get better soon :)  9mgs is not a unusual dose of entocort.
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