Pre-Employment Physical .. mention CD? or play dumb?

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karendee
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   Posted 1/30/2008 8:17 AM (GMT -7)   

I have some really great news! Yesterday I went on an interview and the same day they called me and offered me the job! I was so shocked!

 

I am a little worried about the pre-employment physical. This will be my first one since my diagnosis. Should I just play dumb and not mention my CD? Anyone have any suggestions?

 

I am just worried I may lose this job but my hubby thinks I am worrying about nothing. I doubt they are the type that would discriminate but I want to be 100% sure nothing will disqualify me from the job (it is a desk job) I am also overweight.

 

Hopefully all of you will say I am just being silly and not to worry but I am a worry wart. with losing my current job I just have had horrible luck lately. (my current boss says I am not working out and gave me till Feb 29th to find employment)

 

Thanks everyone!

Karen


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Karen (Karendee)

Diagnosed w/ Crohn’s Disease  March 2007 On 150mg Azathioprine (generic Imuran), Pentasa, & Entocort (take zofran for nausea now)

Diagnosed w/  Fibromyalgia May 2007 also on Soma

Also have Arthritis, and feel like I am falling apart sometimes...


belleenstein
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   Posted 1/30/2008 8:34 AM (GMT -7)   
I think you should answer every question truthfully, but you have no responsibility to disclose. I do not think you should do anything to actively hide the fact you have crohn's. It is not the way to begin any relationship, especially one with an employer.

If you actively hide the fact you have crohn's how do you think your employer will feel the first time you need time off because of a crohn's related problem?

If you have been hired i don't think they can un-hire you because you have a disability.
Belleenstein:

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karendee
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   Posted 1/30/2008 8:50 AM (GMT -7)   
thanks Belleenstein!!!

Karen

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Karen (Karendee)

Diagnosed w/ Crohn’s Disease  March 2007 On 150mg Azathioprine (generic Imuran), Pentasa, & Entocort (take zofran for nausea now)

Diagnosed w/  Fibromyalgia May 2007 also on Soma

Also have Arthritis, and feel like I am falling apart sometimes...


debbikay
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   Posted 1/30/2008 9:16 AM (GMT -7)   

I think according to hipa or something like that you don't have to disclose anything about your health unless it would greatly affect your job performance or endanger the health of others. It's your right to privacy.  If it was me I wouldn't mention it.  After you have been working there for a while and they get to know you maybe then you could tell them about it.   Then if they don't like it and let you go, at least you would get unemployment.

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karendee
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   Posted 1/30/2008 9:57 AM (GMT -7)   
Thanks! I am in HR so I know they are not supposed to discriminate but I guess my past employers make me worried. they found a way to make my life miserable and it started right after they knew I had crohn's

Karen

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Karen (Karendee)

Diagnosed w/ Crohn’s Disease  March 2007 On 150mg Azathioprine (generic Imuran), Pentasa, & Entocort (take zofran for nausea now)

Diagnosed w/  Fibromyalgia May 2007 also on Soma

Also have Arthritis, and feel like I am falling apart sometimes...


gumby44
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   Posted 1/30/2008 10:16 AM (GMT -7)   
I would be very matter of fact, and say you have Crohn's disease but that you are in remission, and are feeling well and able to perform all aspects of your job.
49 yr. old female, diagnosed with Crohn's in small intestine and terminal ileum Sept-Oct. 2007
currently taking Pentasa 2750 mg- 9pills/day and on and off Prednisone for flares


stkitt
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   Posted 1/30/2008 11:59 AM (GMT -7)   

Hey there, You may want to be aware that both the ADA (Americans with Disabilities Act) and the FEHA (Fair Employment and Housing Act)  prohibits medical examinations and inquiries until after the employer has made a "real" job offer to an applicant. For a "real" offer under the ADA and FEHA, an employer must either have completed all non-medical components of its application process or be able to demonstrate that it could not reasonably have done so before issuing the offer. The purpose  is in part to protect the applicants’ privacy and in part to enable applicants to more easily discern whether the reason for their rejection was based on medical grounds alone.

I would make sure the background checks have all cleared and go for the examination, be honest on any questionaire and ask upfront what tests are being run on your lab work. You should not have to hide anything medical. 
Good Luck and  keep us posted.
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karendee
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   Posted 1/30/2008 12:18 PM (GMT -7)   
thanks Kitt, I won't have the physical until I send back my signed offer letter. I am getting that via FedEx today.

I will make sure I ask about the tests I might be getting.

Karen

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Karen (Karendee)

Diagnosed w/ Crohn’s Disease  March 2007 On 150mg Azathioprine (generic Imuran), Pentasa, & Entocort (take zofran for nausea now)

Diagnosed w/  Fibromyalgia May 2007 also on Soma

Also have Arthritis, and feel like I am falling apart sometimes...


aoccc
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   Posted 1/30/2008 1:37 PM (GMT -7)   
the last job physical i had was a joke.very quick and i probably could have been dead and passed.

karendee
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   Posted 1/30/2008 2:01 PM (GMT -7)   
aoccc, I thought that is what it might be. I had one in the past like that too. This time they told me it was a pretty thorough one. I guess I should not worry about it.

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Karen (Karendee)

Diagnosed w/ Crohn’s Disease  March 2007 On 150mg Azathioprine (generic Imuran), Pentasa, & Entocort (take zofran for nausea now)

Diagnosed w/  Fibromyalgia May 2007 also on Soma

Also have Arthritis, and feel like I am falling apart sometimes...


sjkly
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   Posted 1/30/2008 5:35 PM (GMT -7)   
They generally are only looking for things that could affect job performance-I know I have to have one to test for infectious diseases because I work in situations where that is required. In addition to that they only stand behind me and ask for my phone number (can you hear normal voices). They can not test for anything that would not effect job performance nor can they test you for something they don't test everyone doing the same job.
I would not mention Chrone's unless asked but if they ask have you had previous surgeries or what medications are you currently taking I would answer honestly even if that would disclose chrone's. If they don't hire you based on an employment physical they are setting themselves up for a lawsuit and they know it.
Sj

karendee
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   Posted 1/31/2008 8:15 AM (GMT -7)   
thanks Sj!!

Karen

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Karen (Karendee)

Diagnosed w/ Crohn’s Disease  March 2007 On 150mg Azathioprine (generic Imuran), Pentasa, & Entocort (take zofran for nausea now)

Diagnosed w/  Fibromyalgia May 2007 also on Soma

Also have Arthritis, and feel like I am falling apart sometimes...


Glad Bag
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   Posted 1/31/2008 4:41 PM (GMT -7)   
I agree, i would just answer the questions they ask honestly. However, I would not volunteer anything if they don't ask.
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karendee
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   Posted 2/1/2008 4:54 PM (GMT -7)   

thanks Glad Bag!

I am going in about an hour to take my physical and drug screen. I got the paperwork and where it asked I did put my medicines. I figure my coworkers won't even know what it is. From what they told me the hearing test is the most important there.

I am still nervous but I think it will be OK.

 

Karen


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Karen (Karendee)

Diagnosed w/ Crohn’s Disease  March 2007 On 150mg Azathioprine (generic Imuran), Pentasa, & Entocort (take zofran for nausea now)

Diagnosed w/  Fibromyalgia May 2007 also on Soma

Also have Arthritis, and feel like I am falling apart sometimes...


Kristen L.
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   Posted 2/1/2008 6:18 PM (GMT -7)   
HR Law happens to be my specialty!
 
You  have a right to privacy and should not disclose anything that they do not specifically ask.  If they specifically ask about Crohn's, which I doubt they will, they you should be honest because you pre-employment  physical is part of your hiring process. If you lie and they find out you can be legally terminated immediately. But be sure to only answer their specifc question.  There is no need to elaborate

Most likely they will ask you if there is anything that would prevent  you from doing you job.  Answer carefully. If you have a history of leaving jobs because of this illness you must disclose the crohn's. You answer should be diplomatic but truthful.  "Not at this time. I do have crohn's disease but do not have any current limitations that would impede my ability to work as a result of the disease." Make it no big deal and they will too.  If you do not have this history than answer no.
 
Lastly, you  have already been offered the job.  At this point you are basically an employee and are afforded most of the same rights. There is a verbal contract in place. They can not decide to not offer you the job based on the fact that you have crohn's unless they can prove that it would prohibit you from performing your job duties.  If they did take back their employment offer you would have grounds for a lawsuit and would be able to apply and win a unemployment claim.
 
Trust me!  I have seen it done many times. 
 
 
 

karendee
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   Posted 2/2/2008 9:21 AM (GMT -7)   
thanks Kristen! I was very careful. i did say I have Crohn's because she asked of any illness I have had and they did blood tests for my white blood cell count etc. The Dr Said my physical was fine and I would be ok. I flat out asked her. I am going to be in a desk job so not a problem to have CD.

I think I am just worrying for nothing. My job is in HR and it is a little different because my coworkers will see my test results etc... No privacy in HR :)

Thanks everyone for your advice! I wanted this job so badly I guess I was worried for nothing.
Karen

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Karen (Karendee)

Diagnosed w/ Crohn’s Disease  March 2007 On 150mg Azathioprine (generic Imuran), Pentasa, & Entocort (take zofran for nausea now)

Diagnosed w/  Fibromyalgia May 2007 also on Soma

Also have Arthritis, and feel like I am falling apart sometimes...

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