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kgirlie
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   Posted 2/11/2008 10:54 PM (GMT -7)   
Okay, so many people have mentioned the Maker's Diet and I keep telling my husband I might want to check it out. I know nothing about it except it is natural foods? Doesn't that mean it is high in fiber? I am on a low residue diet, which I am not very good at, so I don't understand how you can digest this. Again, I know very little about it. PLease enlighten me because I will try almost anything to feel better. I am on my pred and pentasa and gaining some weight, but when I tried South beach it put me in the hospital for two days. I think I overwhelmed my body. Please let me know and maybe I can go buy it and read it.
 
Thanks,
kgirlie
Kgirlie
 
27 year old female dx with CD in 2001. Pentasa 4 g/day, Prednisone 30 mg/day, Amytripaline 25mg/day, Lexapro 20 mg/day, Maxalt 10 mg as needed. Mother of son, 3, and daughter, 6 months.  


Blue Velvyt
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   Posted 2/11/2008 11:23 PM (GMT -7)   
The makers diet is all about organic foods, there is a specific list of foods you can eat and foods you cant eat. This diet is based off the Bible, the author is Dr Jordan Rubin who also suffered from crohns disease.

I have been on this diet now for three weeks, this is my third week starting now. This diet has, so far, changed my life. I feel 90% healthier since switching and I noticed the difference on the third day.

My typical daily food durring the initial phases consists of organic mixed vegtables (frozen) then steamed. Strawberries with raw organic honey (this is a snack food for me) Water and herbal tea. Beef or chicken although there are many other choices. If you are looking for a possible change this book is a must.

If you want some more specific answers to your questions, ask away, glad to answer.

There are a large number of threads about this diet and alot of people testify to it working.

Here is a thread I started about this very subject the other day:

http://www.healingwell.com/community/default.aspx?f=17&m=1042516

Bspbtwins
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   Posted 2/12/2008 5:31 AM (GMT -7)   
I bought the book a couple of weeks ago and have really enjoyed it.  (I got it for a couple of $$ on Amazon) There are foods on it that I cannot eat, like strawberries, so I have to pick an choose carefully.  But the recipes that are in it are very simple and good. 
 
Good luck!
Diagnosed with CD in Jan. 2008. 
Meds Currently on: Prednisone40mg, 6-MP, Sulfsalazene, folic Acid, and Ambian for zzzz's.
 
I choose joy... I will invite my God to be the God of circumstance. I will refuse the temptation to be cynical... the tool of the lazy thinker. I will refuse to see people as anything less than human beings, created by God. I will refuse to see any problem as anything less than an opportunity to see God. ~Max Lucado
                          


CrazyHarry
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   Posted 2/12/2008 7:43 AM (GMT -7)   
i started the maker's diet in august 2006 when i was facing ostomy surgery. changed my life. i never had the surgery (bowels started to work again so i skipped it) and i have been med free for 3 months (that was a HUGE decision, but one that seems to be working so far).

this diet is not a panacea. results will vary. but i believe it is worth doing. all it costs is the price of food, which you have to pay for anyway. so give it the 40 days and see what happens. imho, the longer you are no it, and honest with it, the better the results will be. it is in intimidating diet. it is difficult, especially at first. you will need A LOT of self discipline to do this. but once it becomes a habit, and you see positive results, it becomes easy to eat this way. dont cheat. start at phase 1 and follow it as closely as you can. phase 1 primes your body.

i was scared to do the diet cos a lot of the foods it called for you to eat in abundance were my "danger foods" and the foods it eliminated were my comfort foods. i hadnt eaten a salad in over 10 years and i hardly ate vegetables. now i'd be eating them with every meal. i took the chance and ate like it said. i was amazed that i didnt have any problems and could now tolerate these foods. i started out slow, eating them in small portions and slowly working them in. somehow it worked for me. but i must include the caveat that it may not for you as we are all different. but it is still worth a try imho.

i've done a lot of posts on this subject and i think i am one of the biggest proponents of this diet on the board here. do a search on me to see my other posts and you can possibly glean some more info on this diet.

i've found i am doing a lot better by eliminating processed foods, sugar, artificial ingredients, and most grains (especially white flour).

best of luck!
Crazy Harry

---------------------------------------------
Crohn's since 1993 (17 yrs old then)
surgery in July '05 - removal of 2 inches at ileum and 8 inches of sigmoid colon (had fistula into bladder)
Nov '05 developed colonic inertia; July '06 told i needed ostomy surgery
began maker's diet in August '06 - now feeling the best ever with no symptoms of colonic inertia and i kept my colon
med free as of 10/31/07


EMom
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   Posted 2/12/2008 8:26 AM (GMT -7)   
I'm glad Crazy Harry jumped in here. He helped us get started. I had so many questions.... confused

I read The Maker's Diet back in September and we implemented it right away. It took me a while (I'm no whiz in the kitchen) to realize that nearly any recipe can be adapted to this diet, so that's good. As CH said, though, start in phase 1 and follow the book's outline. It not only primes the body but also breaks the sugar/bad carb. addiction that nearly every American has. As time goes by the diet will get easier and easier. Having your whole family eat this way will only benefit them in the long run. My son sticks to the diet 100% and is doing very well.

Also, I'm FINALLY getting around to reading "Breaking the Vicious Cycle" by Elaine Gottschall. Her diet is called the Specific Carbohydrate Diet (SCD). It is similar to the MD in that it eliminates all sugar and processed foods and nearly all grains. She goes into great scientific detail about why this diet works for Crohn's and UC (she was a cellular biologist). After her own daughter was diagnosed with the disease (at age 4!) she spent the remainder of her life and career studying "the effects of various sugars (includes carbs) on the digestive tract working mainly on the cellular level." She was one heck of an impressive woman. She passed on in 2005, I believe, but God bless her for the research and resources she left us all!

I add the information about the SCD only because it opens up more possibilities (recipe-wise) for you for the future. There are cookies, pies, etc. and entire cookbooks devoted to this diet. Also, there's an extensive website with lots of information and links about this diet. Personally, I would start with phase 1 of the Maker's Diet, though, and keep the SCD on the back burner for the future. jmho...

I hope this helps! Best of luck to you!
EMom
Mother to 15 year old boy diagnosed in June, 2007.
Currently taking Asacol, omega 3s, digestive enzymes, probiotics, iron, vit. C, calcium w/D3 and a good multivitamin.
Started The Maker's Diet in early September.


Kittikatt
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   Posted 2/12/2008 8:27 AM (GMT -7)   

Harry's right - this is definitely a diet that takes GREAT self-discipline.  I, myself, have not been able to accomplish due to a LACK of that, although cutting out all pork from my diet was quite easy.  I think if I had a chef to MAKE the food for me every day, I'd be more apt to follow the diet!  But as it is, I have not been able to discipline myself enough to take the time and energy to "make" my food (making food to me is microwaving frozen veggies! I know, that's pathetic!). I find it easier to just go get a veggie plate at the local store, which is really of no help on this diet.

I have a mild case of Crohn's right now which is also probably why I'm not being as disciplined. However, I do believe in the idea behind this diet...that God gave us a cookbook right in the Bible and told us how to eat to be healthy.  I feel certain there was no Crohn's Disease in biblical times.

Hey Harry - are you "religious" about the rest of the "diet" plan, too, that does NOT involve food?  Like the praying, the Clenzology, the particular Probiotics...just curious!

 

 


Diagnosed in October, 2003 at age 31.
36/F/SC
Currently taking Colazal, Nexium, One-A-Day multivitamin
Secondary conditions: mouth ulcers, joint pain, extreme fatigue


Roni
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   Posted 2/12/2008 10:39 AM (GMT -7)   
I started the maker's diet sept. 06, I followed it fairly strictly for several months and noticed significant changes in my crohns, especially not having as many obstructions and 30 bowel movements every single day!!! I was completely unable to accomplish this with meds AND a one foot resection of the TI!

I admit, I don't follow the diet 100%, but alot if not most of my diet is from the MD. I don't eat nuts, for example, because I am allergic. I still have the odd chocolate fudge cookie, it is organic though! ;-) I also wish I had a chef who would cook the stuff for me all the time and make lots of honey baked goods, because it can take a lot of time to prepare some of the food if you can't find it made at the grocery store. LOL. However, I'm so glad that I can at last eat lots of yummy buttery vegetables and lots of fruit whereas not too long ago, I ate practically none.

Anyway, if you are afraid of getting obstructions, then I reccommend you start by cooking the veggies and pureeing them. Don't eat fruit skins or seeds or nuts. After a while, when your crohn's subsides a little, then start eating a little more raw veggies or less cooked veggies and fruit skins. Remember to chew your food very well. This can be a big help in avoiding obstructions.  I also suggest you try eating at least some of the raw fruits and salads in phase 1 and 2.
 
Let us know how it goes.
 
 
CrazyHarry, how do you keep from continuing to lose weight while on this diet strictly?

Post Edited (Roni) : 2/12/2008 10:58:03 AM (GMT-7)


lil-momma
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   Posted 2/12/2008 11:10 AM (GMT -7)   
I just ordered this book the other night as I am desperate to help my daughter. I was able to purchase it on amazon pretty cheap. I am sure it will be a challenge since we have become accustomed to eating poorly. We seem to get into a routine of fast pace life in general. It is easier to eat "quick" meals and unfortunately it is more expensive and time consuming to eat healthier. We are going to give the makers diet a try and hopefully we will have the discipline to follow it. Most important, I pray it helps her and others who try it. I will keep you in my thoughts and prayers along with all of these wonderful people on here. I feel you all are a blessing and we already have such a connection. Good luck - heck it's worth a shot, right?! I do believe in the power of prayer and believe it is the only sure healing!
Mother to 15 yr old daughter diagnosed w/CD 9/07.  Had col & endo in 9/07, small bowel follow through 11/07, surgery for abcesses 11/07.  Curently taking multi-vit, iron for anemia, bentyl prn, prilosec 20mg-x2, pentasa  500mg-x5, entocort-x3, 6 mp 50mg-x3.....still not doing well.


upt0106
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   Posted 2/12/2008 4:47 PM (GMT -7)   
I'm in week three of the Makers Diet and feeling great. I find that the food is simple and easy to prepare. I'm enjoying the food and feeling great. I've gone from 2-3 BMs a day to one. I cheated a little today, having a few chocolate covered pretzels at the office, and out for dinner with friends one night, but other that that, I've been able to stick to it. I don't buy into his whole reasoning of it being a diet based on the Bible (I'm a Christian and believe in the Bible though), but do like the diet as a nicely organized way to monitor what I eat, and plan a healthy diet.

menu for today was:

yogurt with blueberries for breakfast
an apple and pear for snacks
Beef vegetable soup (Beef, beef stock, green beans, celery, carrots) for lunch
Leafy Greens with green peppers, cucumber, cherry tomatoes and crumbled goat cheese along with baked salmon topped with goat cheddar cheese for dinner
Grapes and Kefir for an evening snack
Lots of water throughout the day

I've put together a spreadsheet that outlines the allowable foods for the 3 phases, as well as my first 5 weeks of menu planning. Let me know if you'd like a copy and I'll email it to you.
---
-Male, age 31
-Diagnosed with Crohn's 2002 - 5 surgeries for peri-rectal abscess in 2002-2003
-Started Makers Diet 26 Jan 08
-currently on prednisone taper after landing myself in the ER with a partial obstruction


Kittikatt
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   Posted 2/12/2008 4:55 PM (GMT -7)   
Ooooh, Upt0106...that meal you had today sounds good!!! But how in the world do you find time to make that lunch and dinner?! Oh my...I'm starting to see that I am MUCH lazier than the average person! God help me...
Diagnosed in October, 2003 at age 31.
36/F/SC
Currently taking Colazal, Nexium, One-A-Day multivitamin
Secondary conditions: mouth ulcers, joint pain, extreme fatigue


upt0106
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   Posted 2/12/2008 5:30 PM (GMT -7)   
"But how in the world do you find time to make that lunch and dinner?!"

On Saturday morning, I chopped up the carrots, celery and green beans (all fresh and organic), took a box of beef stock (organic, about 4 1/2 cups I think) and maybe a half pound piece of grass fed, open range beef and put it all in the crockpot for 8 hours. Total prep time was maybe 15-20 minutes. Let that cook on low for 8 hours and at the end of the day had soup for supper, plus filled two Tupperwares with leftover soup for lunches during the week. Seasoned with just a dash of sea salt.

On Saturday night, put a pound of dry white beans in water to soak overnight. Sunday morning, made simple white bean soup (garlic, white beans, carrots, celery, onions, olive oil, chicken stock) cooked till soft, puree and then added turkey sausage I had fried up in a pan, sliced up into small pieces. Had that for lunch, and filled two more tupperware containers for lunch. You can see the complete recipe at http://cookandeat.com/2007/10/01/full-of-bean-soup/

Dinner tonight was quick too. Take a piece of fresh salmon, rub a little olive oil on the skin side of the fish, put in a baking dish, bake at 400 degrees for 15 minutes. Then top with a couple thin slivers of the cheddar cheese and broil for 5 minutes to get a nice crispy top. Salad was quick to, just chopped up the veggies and put them over the greens. Total time to make dinner was not more than 20 minutes (made the salad while the salmon was in the oven).

I'm sure you're not too lazy! if you can microwave veggies I bet you can make these meals!
---
-Male, age 31
-Diagnosed with Crohn's 2002 - 5 surgeries for peri-rectal abscess in 2002-2003
-Started Makers Diet 26 Jan 08
-currently on prednisone taper after landing myself in the ER with a partial obstruction


kgirlie
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   Posted 2/12/2008 10:18 PM (GMT -7)   

Thank you so much!! This has been extremely helpful info. I have already told my husband we will try it. Everyone sounds like it does help and I am excited. My stomach is starting to get on my nerves. It is hard to be on predsnisone, but I feel like if I am on it then it should work for me. I'll have to probably call my doc. 

Upto106- please email me that spreadsheet when you get a chance. That would help tremendously.

Thanks for your support. I can't wait to get the book and read it. I believe in the power of prayer too and I am hoping this is the answer to mine. I will keep you updated.

Kgirlie


Kgirlie
 
27 year old female dx with CD in 2001. Pentasa 4 g/day, Prednisone 30 mg/day, Amytripaline 25mg/day, Lexapro 20 mg/day, Maxalt 10 mg as needed. Mother of son, 3, and daughter, 6 months.  


CrazyHarry
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   Posted 2/12/2008 11:25 PM (GMT -7)   
the only way to make time for meals is to plan them and budget it in. you make time for tv. do yourself a favor and make time for dinner (and lunch and breakfast). your body will thank you for it. make a little more with dinner and you got lunch for the next day. when you shop, shop for the week and have your meals planned so you know what you need at the store. simple things like that are a good easy way to get started. most meals can be prepared in under 30 min and dont take a lot of prep time. you dont need to be a gourmet chef to cook your own food.

Roni -
i only lost weight on phases 1 and 2 when i did an extreme version of it. my body was decimated from surgery and colonic inertia which imparted poor nutrition. once i got phase 3, about may last year, i slowly put on weight. i've put on close to 20 pounds since then (i now weigh 146 pounds). one of these days i hope to get back to what i considered a good weight for me, 160/165 pounds. i have a high metabolism, so it is easy for me to lose weight, but hard to gain it, especially on this diet. i've always been active and i think that will/is helping me gain weight. i eat small meals, like every 2-3 hours. i dont eat 1-2 hours before bed as your metabolism naturally slows down. i am very conscious of what i eat and when. i believe our bodies have an "ideal" weight. if we eat healthy, we'll eventually get there and be able to maintain it. right now i dont care too much about what i weigh any more, i care more about what i look like in the mirror (it may sound vain, but i dont think so if i were to really take the time to go into a much longer explanation about where i am coming from). my biggest problem with being this light is that i am always cold. i have no insulation. but i'll take that for being able to see my abs again. i knew they were buried in there somewhere.

kittikat -
i guess you could call me a christian. i've got an odd perspective on this though seeing how i am not comfortable with just believing in Christ meaning i am saved, however i firmly believe that works gets you know where, especially if the motive is not "pure" and for His glory. so i am in a constant struggle. at the end, if i am save, good for me. if not then i get what i deserve. i do pray, but not as often as i should. same with going to church. i am a lousy christian. the mirror is constantly on me and i realize my wretchedness. total double edges sword - makes like easier and harder at the same time. i subscribe to a reformed protestant version of christianity. i did not grow up in a religious household, but turns out all my views and thoughts on religion were consistent with a reformed protestantism, however accepting Christ was difficult. i dont follow clenzology but i do have it. i've never gotten around to using it. sometimes i am too lazy to brush my teeth in the evening, so how am i going to wash my face and do the other stuff? i use arbonne skin care products. they have a men's anti-aging line (i cant find any one else who has one and fits my standards). so i dont feel like washing my face twice in the morning. however i do take care of my skin and wash my hands and all the other stuff. oh, it was funny when the diet came into my life. at the time i was going through the seeking process, which was taking quite a few years. i was told i needed a colectomy, so i prayed and prayed that i could find something to prevent this. a week later i find the maker's diet. with its biblical slant you have to discount coincidence (i stopped believing in that a long long time ago). i started the diet, got better, but not as good as i would have liked. i prayed, thinking if i could only meet jordan and talk to him. a week or so later that prayer was answered and i was able to meet him. jordan put me on my own special version of the maker's diet and the rest is now history. so i have become a firm believer in the power of prayer. these are just 2 examples from my life. i have quite a few more, especially when i was in the hospital recovering from surgery. i take probiotics daily. my supplement regime is this:

morning: upon waking - 2 probiotics, peter gillhams (sp?) natural calm plus calcium
1-3 digestive enzymes with breakfast. i take my multivitamin here too and a sublingual b-12

lunch: 1-3 digestive enzymes; iron (i am still getting over anemia now, this is temporary supplement); vitamin e

dinner: 1-3 digestive enzymes; green food drink; sublingual b-12

before bed: 2 probiotics, peter gillhams (sp?) natural calm plus calcium; GOL cod liver oil

with any snack i'll take at least 1 digestive enzyme.

i follow the maker's diet as closely as possible. i am human so i do cheat once in a while. like today i had whole wheat non-sprouted grain toast and non organic eggs and such in my omelet. dinner was a hamburger with onion rings (this was not at a fast food place though). so, for me, this was a major cheat day. but that happens when you are out of town. then i take 3 digestive enzymes with my meals. decaf coffee late something or other for the ride home. so far i am feeling fine with no abdominal pain or other adverse effects. i can tolerate a few cheats but when i do i try to scrutinize my food and limit the damage that i do. tomorrow (and the next few days) i will be eating only food i bought and prepared myself, which is the norm for me really. i can easily spend over $100 (US) at the store weekly.
Crazy Harry

---------------------------------------------
Crohn's since 1993 (17 yrs old then)
surgery in July '05 - removal of 2 inches at ileum and 8 inches of sigmoid colon (had fistula into bladder)
Nov '05 developed colonic inertia; July '06 told i needed ostomy surgery
began maker's diet in August '06 - now feeling the best ever with no symptoms of colonic inertia and i kept my colon
med free as of 10/31/07


EMom
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   Posted 2/13/2008 7:50 AM (GMT -7)   
lil-momma said...
It is easier to eat "quick" meals and unfortunately it is more expensive and time consuming to eat healthier. We are going to give the makers diet a try and hopefully we will have the discipline to follow it. Most important, I pray it helps her and others who try it. I will keep you in my thoughts and prayers along with all of these wonderful people on here. I feel you all are a blessing and we already have such a connection. Good luck - heck it's worth a shot, right?! I do believe in the power of prayer and believe it is the only sure healing!


I sure hope it does the trick for you! I still have your daughter in my prayers! Please feel free to email me if you have any questions about the diet. I also have some recipes I could send your way...

I'm not yet convinced this diet is any more expensive than what we were doing before. We used to eat out more and now rarely do. I know we're saving money in that respect. Also, though I tried to be conscious of healthy snacks in the past, we no longer have the typical teenage snacks in the cabinet. Maybe saving money in that respect, too...? (trying to rationalize and convince myself here...stay with me...) My kids take their lunch to school every day, and I KNOW that's saving us money. Also, as upto106 pointed out, Tupperware and leftovers are a wonderful thing. I may think I've spent a whole lot on a meal until I realize I made plenty for at least one more meal (and that's a night off of cooking for ME, so it's like going out to dinner!)

And of course, if this really, really works, there's no way to calculate the savings in doctor bills over a lifetime, right?

Speaking of snacks, they were a challenge at first, especially snacks for on-the-go. Girls are lucky in that they carry a purse. You can keep snacky stuff available there so you're not forced to cave in and reach for the bad vending machine or swing into the fast food restaurant. Trying to get my son to carry a ziploc of ANYTHING was tough. Still is. I don't get it. He carries his phone in his pocket...! confused

Anyway, I'm always looking for more snack ideas that are Maker's Diet legal. If anyone has any great ideas, please share!
EMom
Mother to 15 year old boy diagnosed in June, 2007.
Currently taking Asacol, omega 3s, digestive enzymes, probiotics, iron, vit. C, calcium w/D3 and a good multivitamin.
Started The Maker's Diet in early September.


ladybugcrohnie
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   Posted 2/15/2008 11:59 AM (GMT -7)   
The Maker's Diet has totally changed my life.  It is wonderful and worth a shot!

27 yr. old female
Colazel
Humira
Florastor (probiotic)
Fish Oil
Maker's Diet
DX in November 2003
no surgeries to date


njmom
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   Posted 2/15/2008 5:33 PM (GMT -7)   

CrazyHarry,

which probiotics and enzymes do you use?

Are you still making homemade yogurt? 


CrazyHarry
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   Posted 2/15/2008 8:40 PM (GMT -7)   
njmom - i use the garden of life brand probiotics. i switch up my probiotics between primal defense ultra, Th1-s, and complete probiotics. yes, i still make my own yogurt. cheaper than buying it in the store. granted it takes some time to make it, but not much and is worth effort for me. i find it odd, but when i use raw milk the yogurt is super runny, regardless of how long i cook it. if i use organic pastuerized milk, it comes out fine. either way though i add in raw cream and use only whole milk. i use the yougormet (sp?) starters, basically cos i have their yogurt maker, as recommended by the scd.
Crazy Harry

---------------------------------------------
Crohn's since 1993 (17 yrs old then)
surgery in July '05 - removal of 2 inches at ileum and 8 inches of sigmoid colon (had fistula into bladder)
Nov '05 developed colonic inertia; July '06 told i needed ostomy surgery
began maker's diet in August '06 - now feeling the best ever with no symptoms of colonic inertia and i kept my colon
med free as of 10/31/07


njmom
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   Posted 2/15/2008 11:04 PM (GMT -7)   
Thanks...my daughter uses the yogourmet, too. What are the digestive enzymes?

CrazyHarry
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   Posted 2/16/2008 8:42 AM (GMT -7)   
in a nutshell they help you digest your food. imho, with my experience with them over the last 1.5 years, they are a big benefit and i'd say a total must for anyone with a gastro-intestinal disorder. there are many brands out there. i use garden of life's brand seeing how i started out on the natural route with jordan rubin and his stuff. perhaps one day i'll try another brand but for the time being i like his omegazine digestive enzyme.
Crazy Harry

---------------------------------------------
Crohn's since 1993 (17 yrs old then)
surgery in July '05 - removal of 2 inches at ileum and 8 inches of sigmoid colon (had fistula into bladder)
Nov '05 developed colonic inertia; July '06 told i needed ostomy surgery
began maker's diet in August '06 - now feeling the best ever with no symptoms of colonic inertia and i kept my colon
med free as of 10/31/07

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