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athensgirl
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   Posted 2/12/2008 6:24 AM (GMT -7)   
Hi everyone, hope you are all OK.  My problem is I want soooo much to lose weight, and I don't know how.  These last months I am finally in remission, and of course that means I eat all the time! My bigger problem is sweets, I like them so much.  Anyway I have gained approx. 10 kilos, which i HAVE to lose, if I want to show up in the beach this summer!!  Normally, I would just eat my salads and raw fruits, and within 3-4 months I would be gorgeous!!  But I cannot eat that stuff anymore.....  How can I replace salads and fruits without starving?  I have to forget about bread, butter, chocolate, french fries, pizza, coca cola, beer.....  nono   I feel sad already!!!!!  The only way to do this is to increase smoking, which is NOT a good idea....
 
Any ideas please?
 
Thanks
Christina
 
P.S. I'm not on pred, and haven't been for the last one and a half year, so my extra weight is caused only by eating all the time.....

vidoska
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   Posted 2/12/2008 7:42 AM (GMT -7)   
You have to forget about bread, butter, chocolate, french fries, pizza, coca cola, beer ... because of CD! And to quit smoking!

38 years old female, Dx'd July '06, Crohn's collitis and terminal ileitis,

Used Meds: Cipro, Flagyl, Sulfasalazine, 5ASA, 5ASA Enemas, Probiotics,B12 and Iron shots, blood transfusion, Urbason 60mg, Prednisone 20mg - Irigography, X-Ray Intesinal Passage, Colonoscopy in April 06, July 06, Hospitalized - Symptoms long before diagnozed (diarrhea, weight lost, fatigue, exhaustion, pain, subfebrile temperature, joint pain, especially knees)

Current meds: probiotics, prednisone tapering 30mg, sulfasalazine 3x1g, B12 shots, folic acid, omeprazole, xanax 2x0,25mg, alternative: royal jelly, tea mixture,

No surgery so far- History of Graves-Basedow disease in 1995


chroniemomx2
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   Posted 2/12/2008 7:47 AM (GMT -7)   
I eat more protein. And when you eat carbs, eat them with protein. I also have one day a week, where I don't watch what I eat, that way I don't feel like I am depriving myself. :)

Veronica Ballerina
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   Posted 2/12/2008 8:04 AM (GMT -7)   
Hi Christina.
I would start changing everything you can by light products, the butter by light margarine, I know that you live in Greece and I do not know the kind og food you guys have there, here in Brazil we have a lot of options, My basically diet is
breakfast is a glass of juice(light) with a a toast with only ham, morning snack could it be 3 crackers, lunch meal is rice and beans(black beans, but only the soup, without the grains) and a thin steak or fish or grilled chicken, 150gm aproximally, or a portion of pasta with tomato sauce, or potato, the afternoon snack a juice and a toast again with only ham or a pice of light cake, the dinner could be the same as the lunch, if you like chocolate so much that can not be away of it, you can eat one small bonbon by day, and eata lot of light jelly, it is sweat, it satiates you besides it contains protein, which is good for us!
about the Coca cola - I love it too, here in Brazil the new is Coca Zero, Zero fat and Zero sugar, it is good very very similar to te original, we also have Guarana soda here, which is made with a plant from Amazon and gives you energy, but I do not know if you will find Guarana in Greece.
The fruits that my Nutritionist said I can eat is Bananas, bananas are excellent to diarrhoea, and let is face it Brazil has a lot of Bananas! Apples with no skin are good too. You can also eat 1/3 cup of nuts, as the Brazil's nuts if you find in Greece.
Try to eat 2 portions of meat by day and with it, drink a glass of lemon or orange juice, pineapple, the Vitamin C bounds with the iron existent in meats which helps you with the anemia.
This diet was my nutritionist that gave to me, it is helping me, and do not starv all the time, but beer unfortunatelly I had to cut off because od the meds!!

Hope I could have helped you
Veronica Nunes - 27 years - Brazil


athensgirl
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   Posted 2/12/2008 8:32 AM (GMT -7)   
Thanks for all your replies!!!!! 
 
Vidoska: I realise that I must quit smoking, but why all the rest? Just because I have CD, doesn't mean that these foods bother me at all, on the contrary now that I am in remission, I can eat whatever I want!!
 
Christina

vidoska
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   Posted 2/13/2008 7:31 AM (GMT -7)   
Sorry Cristina, perhaps I am too cautious when cola-drinks are concern. Have you consider drinking fresh fruit juice instead of beer and coca cola. I am happy that you are in remission. I also was in remission, and doctor told me I could eat whatever I want, but it did not last long. Of course, it might be for other reasons, not for food.
Take care

38 years old female, Dx'd July '06, Crohn's collitis and terminal ileitis,

Used Meds: Cipro, Flagyl, Sulfasalazine, 5ASA, 5ASA Enemas, Probiotics,B12 and Iron shots, blood transfusion, Urbason 60mg, Prednisone 20mg - Irigography, X-Ray Intesinal Passage, Colonoscopy in April 06, July 06, Hospitalized - Symptoms long before diagnozed (diarrhea, weight lost, fatigue, exhaustion, pain, subfebrile temperature, joint pain, especially knees)

Current meds: probiotics, prednisone tapering 30mg, sulfasalazine 3x1g, B12 shots, folic acid, omeprazole, xanax 2x0,25mg, alternative: royal jelly, tea mixture,

No surgery so far- History of Graves-Basedow disease in 1995


pb4
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   Posted 2/13/2008 12:28 PM (GMT -7)   
Look at junk food as being the sure thing that will cause you to flare, it's all perspective and they actually can and do exacerbate IBD symptoms so stop dancing with the devil...easier said than done, I know because I used to be addicted to sugar and junk, but putting it into perspective made it easy for me to give it up...if you eat crap, you'll feel crap, no energy and everything eles negative to follow...there is not a single benefit to ingesting any of those things...I am now very satisfied to eat fruit when I get sweet cravings and I have to say, now that I no longer eat/drink junk I have a very balanced everything, my mind, my energy, ect....I don't even really get "cravings" anymore, likely because I eat fruit and veggies everyday so no more cravings for junk. Instead of drinking a coke, make yourself a healthy fruit smoothy with yogurt, banana (or any fruit(s) and 100% pure juice with NO SUGAR added...it takes time to wean off of junk but it can be done and you'll be amazed at how much better you'll feel mentally and physically.
 
And you will lose weight fairly quickly if you cut the junk out, drink alot of water and exercise at least 4 days a week for an hour...you likely won't lose weight from food avoidance alone, but everyone is different...muscle strengthening for CDers is very important since we tend to lose a little more muscle mass than healthy people...and we need weight bearing exercise regularly for our bones because we're prone to osteo.

It boils down to perspective :)


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Post Edited (pb4) : 2/13/2008 12:31:22 PM (GMT-7)


Mihee
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   Posted 2/18/2008 10:05 AM (GMT -7)   

Weight Watchers did it for me-I would have done it sooo many years sooner had I known how easy it really could be.  I lost 85 lbs, as a result of eating better...I feel better!!

Mihee


FitzyK23
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   Posted 2/18/2008 12:03 PM (GMT -7)   
I recommend the South Beach Diet book. There are three phases. The first is pretty low carb but the premise is that you maintain a low glycemic index at all times so you don't have the blood sugar spike and crash making you feel even more hungry. Its all about getting protein and fiber and whole grains in proportion to your sugars and carbs. It is a very very easy diet. Lots of fish and chicken, and steak, and eggs, bacon etc.
26 Year old married female.  Diagnosed w/ CD 3 years ago, IBS for over 10 years before that, which was probably the CD.  Currently on Pentasa 4 pills/4x day, hysociamine prn, nexium, and ortho evra.  Good times!!!
 
 


chico41
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   Posted 2/18/2008 1:54 PM (GMT -7)   
me i am on the other spectum. i can't put weight on. Even though i have chrohns, no large intestine. So food goes right threw me. heck it even pics up speed sometimes. i am assuming i will be thin the rest of my life. But that is what the good lord put on my plate. Most of the time i am fine with that. So i try to take life one day at a time. try that once. nothing to loose.

MMMNAVY
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   Posted 2/18/2008 3:50 PM (GMT -7)   
Wow I am shocked that people can eat sweets, whole grains, eggs, bacon, fruit juice, fruit, veggies, beer, coke (especially coke zero!), tomato sause, beans, butter, french fries, pizza, and you can exercise for an hour four days a week! I could not do any of that because I would need a transfusion if I did that, but I sure hope that I can get back to being able to do that!

First before I give any advice I would like to know what your current weight, height, age, and fitness level is? The reaon why those foods should be limited because the ones you listed cause inflamation.
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Post Edited (MMMNAVY) : 2/18/2008 6:28:46 PM (GMT-7)


Roni
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   Posted 2/18/2008 5:55 PM (GMT -7)   
try the maker's diet.

praying4healing
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   Posted 2/18/2008 6:48 PM (GMT -7)   
i;m sorry i havent read if someone already suggested it but what about exercise? i wanted to lose weight during/after the prednisone, and i just did a bit of cardio for a very short while (i'm not really the excercise type), n e way, the weight came off and now i'm in the process of trying to gain...wish i could b in ur shoes...lol. guess we all want what we dont have huh?
25 y/o female- crohns disease since 14
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Tried asacol,pentasa,prednisone,remicade,6mp,azasan, no avail
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njmom
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   Posted 2/18/2008 9:33 PM (GMT -7)   
You could also try the SCD diet. Most people have trouble keeping weight on in this diet (just go easy on the nuts). And it might even help your Crohn's symptoms. You can check it out at:
 
 
You can also buy the book "Breaking the Vicious Cycle" online.
 
Good luck!

ivy6
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   Posted 2/18/2008 9:48 PM (GMT -7)   
Perhaps it might help to change your mindset, so that you think less about depriving yourself, and more about treating yourself to different foods, now that your Crohn's is settling.

You said that you can't eat fruit - are there any fruits that work for you? It is summer here, and I am managing to beat the ice cream / chocolate cravings by indulging in mangos. They make a really special, luscious dessert, and because I feel as if I'm treating myself, I don't feel deprived. Where I used to drink chocolate (soy) milk for energy, I now treat myself to a banana whizzed in soy milk and frozen into a slush, and I find I'm enjoying that more than the chocolate. Again, it helps that I feel as if I'm having a treat - I look forward to it all morning.

If you really can't do without the taste of chocolate, you might like to experiment with flavoured teas. It's possible to buy a chocolate flavoured tea, and drinking some can get rid of the chocolate cravings for a while. And if that's not enough, perhaps you could try drinking fat-free milk with some Milo or chocolate Quik. That way, you get the chocolate and the sugar, but much less fat.

For (relavively) guilt-free French fries, have you tried low-fat oven baked chips?

Butter - have you tried substituting it for margarine, or that "I can't believe it's not butter" stuff? You could also try "treating" yourself to sandwiches spread with mashed avocado. Again, I think you're less likely to feel deprived if you can indulge yourself in some other way.

I know you worry about your weight, but it may be that your body needs to be this size now. It may want to build up a buffer of fat reserves so it has something to burn if you become ill later. And really, it may be better to be a slightly pudgy healthy person than emaciated and sick. I know you miss the way you were before the Crohn's, but it might just be easier to embrace the way you look now and aim to live healthily, rather than to be slim. Such an attitude will automatically change your dietary choices, but it's much easier on your self-esteem.

Be nice to yourself, Athensgirl. Crohn's is hard enough on self-esteem without you beating yourself up while you're well.

I.
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athensgirl
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   Posted 2/19/2008 1:40 AM (GMT -7)   

Thank you all so much for the replies!!!!!  Here in Greece we mesure height in cm and weight in kilos, so I hope I have converted right!  My height is 5,77 ft (1,76 cm) and my current weight is 187 lb (85 kilos).  My normal weight is 152 lb (approx. 69 kilos).  That means I want to lose 16 kilos.  I was always the tall blond girl, I cannot accept my current image.  I feel fat, and I hate it.

Everyone is right, I don't have excuses for eating the wrong stuff, but it's the first time in my life I can really enjoy it without paying for it later.  It's the first time I can go out with friends and say "let's have a beer!!!!" And of course if I don't go to the bathroom 10 times a day, everything builts up in my body and becomes fat...

Anyway, I have a stricture in the TI, and my biggest fear is fruit, I have this feeling that if I eat even a banana, it will get stuck...  I know it's a phsycological thing, because I haven't had any fruit since I was diagnosed, and I'm afraid of trying.  Although I do eat strawberry marmelade with all the small seeds inside.  Do you guys think I could try a banana or a pealed apple?  Before I got sick, I always ate fruit every evening instead of a normal dinner, especially here in Greece we have so much fresh fruit.  But now, I'm so afraid of trying.  Even with vegetables, I only eat carots and zuchinni (sp?) very well boiled, and of course potatoes.  I don't eat tomatoes, all the green stuff etc.

P.S. Today I fell down on my way to work, we have so much snow in Athens, we can barely walk!  Thank God, I didn't break anything, ha ha!!!!

Christina


teenatoons1
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   Posted 2/19/2008 9:17 AM (GMT -7)   
It seems to me that you aren't too far overweight. I, on the other hand am carrying one and a half extra people's weight on my body. I am morbidly obese. As of February 15, I started a high protien diet through Curves. It is a weight management program for women. I don't know if you have them in Greece or not, but I have been told that they are world wide. They do have a web site, but you have to pay for the service. It is a 30 minute workout at least three times a week joined with changing your eating habits. In my first two weeks I lost 13 pounds. I haven't been able to lose much more because I have been cheating on the diet. :( I am continuing to work at sticking to it. If I mess up, I start again the next day. I have been taking a class through this program. The class started Feb.15. I have been learning to eat better, but I am a complulsive eater. (It really hurts when I am having a flare up and eat because I am mad or sad.) The diet is only 6weeks. It is to teach me to eat better foods. Once the 6 weeks is up, I try to stay eating healthier foods on a regular basis, but I have to diet for only 3 days a month to maintain the proper weight. There are 3 phases to the diet. I will diet longer then most people in my class because I have more to lose, but once I reach my goal, I too will be on the 3 days a month diet. This will maintain my goal weight. Good Luck, but don't be too hard on yourself. It isn't easy. Just keep trying to maintain a healthy weight, not a magazine model's weight. Did you know that Italy is trying to ban models who are an unhealthy weight? I just read that in some research I read for school last week. They have to meet the world wide body index or they are not allowed to be in the photo shoot. It is an attempt to stop or at least curb eating disorders in Italy.

sammies
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   Posted 2/19/2008 4:18 PM (GMT -7)   
I just spent 5 years close to remission--prior to that, it had been 17 years of very active disease. Over the last 5 years, I had been very upset--even depressed-- about my extra weight. But I so enjoyed that I could eat almost anything and recoup easily from something that didn't agree with me. I didn't worry about the restaurants my friends chose or eating at someone's house. I didn't have to count by 7's up the elevator to distract myself from the stool wanting to explode out of my rectum. I could eat dairy (with pills), sushi, seeds, multigrain, chinese food, fresh vegies, and drink tequila sunrises.

My gyn kept saying I wasn't terribly overweight and that I should enjoy being able to eat as I had been underweight in the past. As Ivy 6 suggested, my body recently needed that weight. Before this flare, I had just lost 12 lbs on my own. But then the flare happened and another 8 came off way too quickly. I have 5 lbs more I can lose without starting to get worried about being underweight. My clothes are hysterically too big but I'm afraid to buy new clothes as this flare will end and I'll certainly gain some back.

In my humble opinion, eat a balanced array of all foods and get plenty of nutrients. If you have a little extra weight like you say you do, don't worry too much. Try to get the exercise you need and feed your body well. Enjoy being able to have a beer or two. Savor chocolate and ice cream. Enjoy your remission but treat your body well. I hope and pray your remission lasts a very long time!
23 years with moderate Crohn's/colitis; fistulizing crohn's; pentasa


ivy6
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   Posted 2/19/2008 9:27 PM (GMT -7)   
If you're really scared about the bananas, you could start by scraping out the teeny seeds inside, and just eating the "outer" fruit... without the stringy bits, of course. And pureeing it might help.

You could also try stewing the bananas; that might help.

Good luck!

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MMMNAVY
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   Posted 2/19/2008 9:50 PM (GMT -7)   
I would just say mash the banannas like you would for a tottler, if you can handle strawberries you can handle banannas. I would suggest exercise, in particular see about get a pedometer so you can do 10,000 steps a day. (I use that and a polar heart rate moniter that counts cals burned for me) But the basic ideas is that you have less calories going in then you do going out. I do suggest you explore why you are not your normal weight (it is the remission? or are you having the structural problems that hinder you from exercising). There is no magic formula, just create more calories going out, then going in. Do the research and the trial and error that it takes to find a formula for you. I am not saying this is easy, and I am certainly not doing it now because of the hospital thing, but I can suggest some goals for you.

60 mins of cardio a day (work up to this start with like 5-10 mins)
It would be good to work in weight lifting as well if you can
3 times a day- drink 225 ml (1 cup) of skim milk
4 to 5 fruit servings-Try fruit juice and blended whole fruits so they are no bigger then a pencil eraser (you could throw some yogert in here to make a smoothie.
4-5 veggie servings-same thing for fruit and possibly a food processor would help getting the food down to a size that is doable.
fish oil or flax seed oil for omega threes
a card deck of protein (meat, chicken, turkey, other very lean proteirns a day

I sure other people can think of goals for you, but please do not feel like you have to do all of this at once, but if you can do one change/improvement a week that is doable and hopeful you will keep feeling better and better.
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GreekGirl78
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   Posted 2/29/2008 3:04 PM (GMT -7)   
I too am in the same position as you Athens. I have always been able to lose weight whenever I needed to fit into a dress or was planning to go to the beach/summer coming up and all. I was diagnosed 2 yrs ago and have gained about 10 lbs now. I would gain and lose, gain and lose and i'm at the gain part of my ups and downs and want to lose 10 lbs. I am in remission now and will be trying some of the suggestions here. Peel the fruit, smoothies, lighter dinners. My husband won't be too bappy about this but he can eat anything and still lose weight. I haven't had much energy since I was diagnosed and figure that's why I gained. But I would walk a lot and try to swim when it's warm and lose the weight right down again. I'm not up the 10 lbs and being in remission hope that I could try some fruit and veggies and hopefully lose the weight if not a few more pounds now that summer is almost here. Good Luck to you! It's hard to say no to an ice cold beer or a cigarette but I gave everything up when I was diagnosed. Food, alcohol, cigarettes. . .it was hard but I feel very much better. I now do have the ocassional drink but not much.
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