what's the deal with popcorn?

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stuckonyesterday
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   Posted 2/29/2008 11:08 PM (GMT -7)   
I'm still trying to figure out an appropriate diet. As it is I'm a picky eater and I haven't been avoiding anything really because I'm bad and when I crave something I don't think about the consequences I guess =/ Although I really haven't found specific foods making it worse for me...I never had nuts anyway, never drank coffee, ate spicy foods, or went crazy with chocolate..but I do eat a lot of fast food. But anyway I keep hearing avoid popcorn. I'm just wondering..does anyone know why, or what it does? Are we really supposed to never eat it??
Female. 18 years old. Symptoms began 8/1/07. CT Scan clear. Chest X-ray clear. Endoscopy on 12/1/07 showed some gastritis; colonoscopy on the same date showed Crohn's in the biopsy. Symptoms include: pain in the gut, mouth sores (not present currently), excessive gas, a sore bum, anal skin tag, a Crohn's fissure, and a cough that's lasted for months (possibly related to acid reflux). No menstrual cycle present since 7/17/07 (& am not sexually active). Am currently on: Asacol, Flagyl, Protonix, and Prednisone. Am anemic. Current main problem: constant diarrhea.


inflamed
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   Posted 2/29/2008 11:12 PM (GMT -7)   
Some people can eat it just fine. It all depends.

The hulls don't digest and can be dangerous for people w/ narrowing or strictures. I think others just feel sick from it. I have severe strictures in my TI, but once I was in remission I started eating small amounts of popcorn and was fine. After years without it, though, it wasn't as good as I remembered.
Currently in remission!


stuckonyesterday
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   Posted 2/29/2008 11:14 PM (GMT -7)   
Ohhh okay thanks! I haven't been to the movies in ages because I'm afraid of having to run to the bathroom, while explaining to everyone why I missed the movie. But if I do go I'm dying for some movie popcorn haha.
Female. 18 years old. Symptoms began 8/1/07. CT Scan clear. Chest X-ray clear. Endoscopy on 12/1/07 showed some gastritis; colonoscopy on the same date showed Crohn's in the biopsy. Symptoms include: pain in the gut, mouth sores (not present currently), excessive gas, a sore bum, anal skin tag, a Crohn's fissure, and a cough that's lasted for months (possibly related to acid reflux). No menstrual cycle present since 7/17/07 (& am not sexually active). Am currently on: Asacol, Flagyl, Protonix, and Prednisone. Am anemic. Current main problem: constant diarrhea.


sammies
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   Posted 2/29/2008 11:20 PM (GMT -7)   
I've always been up and down with popcorn. For years, I could eat it and the only side effect might be gas. Sometimes, I would eat it and get terrible cramping. But right now I can't eat it at all. But I do have a hot air popper and I'm hoping that in a few weeks, I can use it again.

Try a little at a time. You might find microwavable harder to digest than hot air and movie popcorn very greasy. See what works best for you.

Hope you get to enjoy it.
23 years with moderate Crohn's/colitis; fistulizing crohn's; pentasa


pb4
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   Posted 2/29/2008 11:25 PM (GMT -7)   
I eat it with no problems.

:)
My bum is broken....there's a big crack down the middle of it!  LOL  :)


teddybearweiser
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   Posted 3/1/2008 4:12 AM (GMT -7)   
I can't eat popcorn or corn on the cobb.
Hi, I am teddybearweiser, I am a male.
I was diagnosed with crohns disease when i was admitted to the hospital
in 1992, in Jan of 1993 I was back in the hospital for surgery for my crohns. I had part of my right colon resectioned with ilecolonstomy.
 My GI doctor has me on Asacol, Dicyclomine,Imuran,Celebrex and Remicade. B-12 injection once a month.
My Internest doctor has me on Lisnopril-HTCZ and Folic Acid. Diagnosed
with Osteoarthritis July 2007
 


mom2carrington
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   Posted 3/1/2008 9:59 AM (GMT -7)   
Funny you should mention it. I should start off by saying I have not been officially diagnosed with CD but after my 1st blockage 2.5 yrs ago I had a colonoscopy which showed deffinite colitis and a small bowel follow through which showed a definite narrowing of the ileum. I am also lactose intolerant. I just had my second blockage last week. Ouch is an understatement. I did not go to the hospital and chose to get through this one at home on my own. (my husband is a dr. by the way) It was tough but I made it. I couldn't for the life of me figure out what could have caused it until about 6 days later I was feeling well and decided to unload my dish washer. I opened it and noticed 2 blue bowls right on top. They were the blue bowls I served popcorn in to my 7 year old son and his friend who was over visiting that day a few days before I got sick. I had sat down with a bowl myself (I am not a popcorn eater so I would not have thought twice and it was kettle corn so sweet without butter) that afternoon. Thinking back, I believe it was later that day or the next day my tummy started to cramp. 2 days later, I was vomiting everything I had eaten. Water would even back up on me. That was when I knew I had a blockage for sure. I can truly say after that, I will never touch popcorn again!!!!!

upt0106
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   Posted 3/1/2008 10:01 AM (GMT -7)   
i eat popcorn with no problems...usually stove top popped in olive oil, topped with a little parmesan cheese, organic butter and sea salt

yum!
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-Male, age 31
-Diagnosed with Crohn's 2002 - 5 surgeries for peri-rectal abscess in 2002-2003
-Started Makers Diet 26 Jan 08
-currently on prednisone taper after landing myself in the ER with a partial obstruction


petittarte
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   Posted 3/1/2008 10:56 AM (GMT -7)   
I eat popcorn, chocolate, spicy food, nuts and raw fruits and veggies without a problem.
Jodi

Remicade and 6MP


map lady
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   Posted 3/1/2008 11:43 AM (GMT -7)   
I was eating the microwave kettle corn popcorn a couple times a week before I suddenly got my first crohn's flare, and I'm terrified to eat popcorn ever again.  I'm worried about the little kernels poking and scraping and irritating my insides, and since they aren't digested they can also cause blockages in narrow places like other people have mentioned.  Popcorn is yummy but be careful with it!

Megera
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   Posted 3/1/2008 11:59 AM (GMT -7)   
I don't have any issues with popcorn. It's things like potatoes and waffles that upset my stomach :(
Current:
Dx: Crohn’s Ileitis as of 22/02/08
Rx: 4g Pentasa (2 pills 4 times per day)
9mg Budesonide (one capsule 3 times per day for the next 6 weeks)

Pre 22/02/08: 2.4g Asacol (discontinued due to Crohn's Diagnosis)


njmom
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   Posted 3/1/2008 3:47 PM (GMT -7)   
My daughter ate popcorn just before the worst flare of her life...woke up later that night with writhing pain, vomiting. Because of the stricture. She won't touch the stuff, now.  

crohnie1985
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   Posted 3/1/2008 4:39 PM (GMT -7)   
I myself love popcorn, and at the show forget it I am helpless. So I thought up an idea, I eat all the popcorn I want, just I bring along a small plastic lunchbag and chew up the popcorn and enjoy, then I spit out the chewed leftover, then decreetly toss the bag (gross) but works. So that's my two cents, enjoy.

stuckonyesterday
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   Posted 3/1/2008 5:45 PM (GMT -7)   
crohnie1985 said...
I myself love popcorn, and at the show forget it I am helpless. So I thought up an idea, I eat all the popcorn I want, just I bring along a small plastic lunchbag and chew up the popcorn and enjoy, then I spit out the chewed leftover, then decreetly toss the bag (gross) but works. So that's my two cents, enjoy.
Oh wow that's actually a pretty good idea. I don't know about doing that if I go to the movies with friends, but maybe I'll go with my mom one day and try that. I'll see what happens...I haven't really eaten much popcorn since having the Crohn's, but I had some at home (the ones from the store in a bag) and I don't think it really bothered me. We usually go as a family to the circus every year and get the box of popcorn..that's coming up in about a week so I guess I'll see how that goes. It's sad to think that I'm actually worried about going to something that was always enjoyable and to have to think about what foods might do me harm...having to think about those kind of things really makes you regret how you took it for granted when life was normal, you know?

Female. 18 years old. Symptoms began 8/1/07. CT Scan clear. Chest X-ray clear. Endoscopy on 12/1/07 showed some gastritis; colonoscopy on the same date showed Crohn's in the biopsy. Symptoms include: pain in the gut, mouth sores (not present currently), excessive gas, a sore bum, anal skin tag, a Crohn's fissure, and a cough that's lasted for months (possibly related to acid reflux). No menstrual cycle present since 7/17/07 (& am not sexually active). Am currently on: Asacol, Flagyl, Protonix, and Prednisone. Am anemic. Current main problem: constant diarrhea.


Lady G
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   Posted 3/1/2008 7:23 PM (GMT -7)   
my dad with Crohns will die if he eats popcorn, the reaction is that bad in his system for plugging him up and all..
as for me, for the longest time I was never affected which made me happy. But now I won't touch corn on the cob at all, it DOES hurt me...but now a days I also gave up popcorn too, since I tend to get mildly sick from it now too and just decided the pain/risk isn't worth it, which I thought would be hard, but after a few movies with my husband and mom tossing buckets back and forth between me and me actually holding back I found it easy now....
and yeah, its the hull, it doesn't even digest in normal people usually none the less us with less properly working digestive systems..same is almost the same for peas and all, other items with harder 'shells' or hulls.
26 year old, married. Diagnosed with Crohns at 17, suspected of having for at least a year or so before that.  Alot of Crohns in my family history.  No surgeries yet. Imuran treatment with Prednisone tapering at moment.  Possible Fistula.


nitat
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   Posted 3/1/2008 8:20 PM (GMT -7)   
I don't know if anyone else has tried the hullless popcorn. It doesn't bother me, it's a little more
expensive than regular popcorn and comes in regular and cheese flavored.

stuckonyesterday
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   Posted 3/2/2008 12:09 AM (GMT -7)   
For those of you saying you have a problem with corn on the cob...what about off the cob? Just wondering.
Female. 18 years old. Symptoms began 8/1/07. CT Scan clear. Chest X-ray clear. Endoscopy on 12/1/07 showed some gastritis; colonoscopy on the same date showed Crohn's in the biopsy. Symptoms include: pain in the gut, mouth sores (not present currently), excessive gas, a sore bum, anal skin tag, a Crohn's fissure, and a cough that's lasted for months (possibly related to acid reflux). No menstrual cycle present since 7/17/07 (& am not sexually active). Am currently on: Asacol, Flagyl, Protonix, and Prednisone. Am anemic. Current main problem: constant diarrhea.


jdryan
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   Posted 3/2/2008 4:45 AM (GMT -7)   
i love movie popcorn and it is hard to resist but i find that milk duds take my mind off it ;) popcorn and corn tear my stomach up! the pain is unbearable and i assume it's because it irritates (scrapes) the ulcers in my intestines. i find it is not worth the pain!! maybe when i'm in remission (which is rare) it wouldn't bother me, i am not sure. good luck! and sorry to hear what you have to go through at such a young age! don't be afraid to explain to your friends what is wrong with you because my friends have been very understanding and helpful!!
jacquie
thirty-something y/o female
dx crohn's 1987 dx UC 1999
Rx: colazal 9/day, imuran 150mg/day, prednisone 20mg/day, cymbalta 60mg/day


ElainePearl
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   Posted 3/2/2008 1:31 PM (GMT -7)   
:-)  I was told the same thing - no popcorn, seeds or nuts.  I wanted to cry at the time since popcorn has been a staple in my diet for ten years (and I miss pistacios).  Now a dream about them - jk.  Anyway, I keep hoping its not true and I will try some and pay theconsequences.  So instead I buy puffed corn snacks.  It at least hits the spot (sort of, but enough :-) )

nawlinscate
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   Posted 3/2/2008 8:27 PM (GMT -7)   
Please try not to eat popcorn. There is clinical evidence that--even if you don't FEEL bad the next day--popcorn (and other things with hulls, seeds, and skins) irritates the lining of your intestine and colon. Doctors believe that this irritation prompts a reaction from your immune system, causing inflammation. Eventually, the inflammation can cause a buildup of scar tissue and may result in stricture, blockage, or surgery. So I'm always skeptical of people with CD who say they can eat popcorn. What you feel on the outside may not reflect silent damage being done on the inside.
Most of us really really miss the popcorn. Try to develop another movie routine. My savior has been caramel apple pops, since they take forever to eat and require lots and lots of chewing. They keep my mouth busy through a long movie, without my actually eating pounds and pounds of, say, jelly beans to satisfy my movietime oral fixation. I now can't imagine seeing a movie without caramel apple pops--but at least I've substituted a harmless craving for a harmful one.

pb4
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   Posted 3/2/2008 9:38 PM (GMT -7)   
Well I've been eating it here and there my entire 17 yrs of having CD and have yet to have a blockage or stricture or surgery, so it just goes to show that it's different for everyone.

Besides which, it's great fibre....I also don't have any issues with any kinds of nuts or seeds and that includes pumpkin and I eat the shells.

:)


My bum is broken....there's a big crack down the middle of it!  LOL  :)


belleenstein
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   Posted 3/3/2008 9:03 AM (GMT -7)   
here is an analogy that might make sense to you. Ever had a really slow flowing drain? Maybe you've lived in an old house or in a town whose water system has been around for, maybe a hundred years? So imagine this rusty, corroded pipe. It isn't smooth anymore on the inside. It is pitted and there are eruptions of rust on the inside that have nearly closed the opening in a couple of places. Most of the time it still runs ok, because you only need a pinhole for water to get through. But, suppose a guest comes over and they don't know about your old house and its equally sensitive plumbing. they graciously offer to clean up the fablulous meal you all have just enjoyed while you trek off to the bathroom. By the time you get back, they're standing over the sink with a sheepish look on their face. The water just isn't draining and there bits of the salad and a piece of meat or two swirling in the water. Immediately you know what's wrong. That piece of tomatoe and the corn and the meat grissle have gotten stuck somewhere in those old rusty pipes. Sometimes it will clear itself with just a plunger, but sometimes you gotta call in the plumber because the force of trying to clear the drain has blown one of the fittings and there's a mess spilling into your basement.

That's what the bowels of many crohn's patients look like. Think of the scar tissue as the rust in the pipe. Now do you see why corn, nuts, celery, and other coarse stringy foods can cause us so much misery? Of course you can eat all these foods. And sometimes you will get away with it. Maybe even most of the time, but if you are prone to obstruction or have been told you have a stricture best to avoid them. Unless you are prepared to suffer the consequences. Mom, you were able to ride it out at home. Boy I can understand that. Nothing I hate worse than going to the ER when I'm at my most vulnerable. Still, most people don't have a doc at hand and, having done it many times on my own, I've come to believe that it's probably not the best judgement I've ever demonstrated. dehydration, exhaustion from fighting the pain and the very real possibility of perforation have finally convinced me to park my pride and go to the ER until it passes.
Belleenstein:

30+ years living with Crohn's.


pb4
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   Posted 3/3/2008 12:59 PM (GMT -7)   
Like I said, I don't have issues with obstructions, blockages or even fistulas and I don't get ab pain, even when I was at my worst with CD when it was affecting my small bowel along with my large and my rectom and anus, the only pain I've ever endured in my 17 yrs is lower back pain (which the bee propolis has taken care of) and anal pain from my perianal crohns skin tags.

Not all CDers are the same and when there is inflammation anything will likely irritate, but everyone suffers differently in many ways.

:)
My bum is broken....there's a big crack down the middle of it!  LOL  :)


misspriss82
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   Posted 3/3/2008 1:14 PM (GMT -7)   
I found out the hard way that I cannot eat popcorn! One great night at the movies ended up with me in the bathroom vomiting. I haven't tried it to eat it since, to me, its just not worth it! I stick to the junior mints instead! :)
26 y/o, diagnosed at 25 y/o
Asacol 400mg 3 pills 3x daily
Entocort, 3 pills daily
Upset stomach daily, tired all the time (except when on Prednisone), occasional abdominal pain
Weigh loss, but scared that once I start the Entocort where will be lots of weight gain :(


Mormor Vicky
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   Posted 3/7/2008 12:12 PM (GMT -7)   
I don't seem to have problems at all with popcorn but if I eat a salad or an unpeeled apple I'm constantly running to the restroom. It's funny how different we all are. My disease is located in my large intestines and I've never had the sharp pains in my guts. Just going to the bathroom alot. But the deterioration of my colon over many years of living with the disease (I was told it was IBS) ended me up in the hospital because of really bad damage. I'm thinking it all depends on the location of inflammation.
Vicky / 48 years old
DX'd with Crohn's during a resection August 2006
DX'd with Steriod induced Diabetes November 2006
Considered in Clinical remission but have minor signs of disease activity
 
Daughter (27) also has Crohn's since she was 12.
 
Currently on 4000mg of Pentasa only for Crohn's
No longer able to take 6-MP because of Bone-Marrow Suppression
Cymbalta, Metformin, Lipitor

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