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smile1967
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   Posted 3/7/2008 9:03 PM (GMT -7)   
I just bought my first supplements of probiotics today. PB4 - you have highly recommended primadophilus reuteri made by natures way so that is what I got. I was concerned that our health food store here in my little hometown in Canada would not have it but there it was! Two questions: on the box the pills are called "pearls" = is this what you have?  Also on the box it states refrigeration is not required. I know usually refrigeration is necessary, and these were in the fridge at the store. I just wanted to also know if I should take one pill a day in the morning or the evening. Should I avoid any foods or take with certain foods to benefit the effects.Thanks for any input!
Shelley
40 yr old wife and mom to two boys 8 & 10
symptoms since the age of 19
officially diagnosed with crohn's Feb/2006
meds: pentasa 500mg 2 x 3day
Surgery-Feb11/08 (resection)
 


pb4
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   Posted 3/7/2008 10:14 PM (GMT -7)   
Hi smile :)

I don't use the "pearls" I use the caps, it does seem confusing if it states on the box that refridgeration is not required yet the store had them in the fridge doesn't it...I don't know what to make of that.

It should say on the box about how many to take, the caps I take specify 1 cap/day...it shouldn't matter if you take it with food or not, my doesn't specify on the box so if yours doesn't either then it likely makes no difference.

p.s. I was born in '67 as well, what month were you born? I'm June.

:)
My bum is broken....there's a big crack down the middle of it!  LOL  :)


potatoqwn
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   Posted 3/7/2008 11:06 PM (GMT -7)   
pb4, I finally started on the Primadophilis reuteri capsules two weeks ago. It was mostly the high marks you gave it that made me want to try it out. Anyway, I feel great. Here's the best part...less gas and less odorous gas and poops! Who knew?

pb4
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   Posted 3/8/2008 12:16 AM (GMT -7)   
That is FANTASTIC potatoqwn!!!! I hope you get more and more improvements with it, and don't forget, even when in remission you should still continue taking probiotics and whenever on antibiotics, always take your probiotics at least 2 hours after you're done taking antis for the day.

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smile1967
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   Posted 3/8/2008 2:49 PM (GMT -7)   
Thanks pb4 for the advise!!!
p.s. My birthday is June 19, 1967 I can't believe we are the same year and month! I can't wait to see what day you are (if you want to reveil!!)
40 yr old wife and mom to two boys 8 & 10
symptoms since the age of 19
officially diagnosed with crohn's Feb/2006
meds: pentasa 500mg 2 x 3day
Surgery-Feb11/08 (resection)
 


pb4
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   Posted 3/8/2008 6:40 PM (GMT -7)   
The 22...you're just a few days shy of being a "cancer" like me, at least you're close enough to be the cusp though...I'm married to a Gemini (june 11), and I'll just leave it at that LOL!

:)
My bum is broken....there's a big crack down the middle of it!  LOL  :)


smile1967
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   Posted 3/8/2008 8:28 PM (GMT -7)   
Yes....there is alot to be said for us Gemini's!!!!!
40 yr old wife and mom to two boys 8 & 10
symptoms since the age of 19
officially diagnosed with crohn's Feb/2006
meds: pentasa 500mg 2 x 3day
Surgery-Feb11/08 (resection)
 


pb4
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   Posted 3/8/2008 9:12 PM (GMT -7)   
LOL, same for us Cancers!!!!

:)
My bum is broken....there's a big crack down the middle of it!  LOL  :)


Mark Mac
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   Posted 3/9/2008 11:44 AM (GMT -7)   
Smile,

I have always been told to take probiotics at least a half hour before ingesting any food. The bacteria in the capsules (or pearls) is very sensitive and the digestive enzymes produced by the stomach when you are eating will tear them up before they ever get to your SI. If you pay as much for your probiotics as I do, you want to make the most of them. Good luck.
Diagnosed CD in 93'. Currently taking Humira, and darvoset for pain. Also getting acupuncture and chinese herbs as well as a massage when I can afford it. 107 lb

"I cannot promise that change will make things better, but change must occur if things are to become better"


jid
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   Posted 3/10/2008 5:06 AM (GMT -7)   
Sounds like the probiotics are worth taking a shot at. From the web site of nature's way, it has the pearls as not requiring refrigeration but the 'optima' (i think it was called... something gladiator-like or transformers like in the name) and one other one required refrigeration.

For those of you taking the probiotics, which one(s) are working for you? Part of me wants to dive head first into the strongest one out there, but the other part of me says to try the pearl (baby steps).

thoughts?

J

chachka
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   Posted 3/10/2008 7:24 AM (GMT -7)   
  Jini Patel Thompson, who has Crohn's herself and wrote books “Listen to your gut” and “IBD remission diet” recommends Natren's probiotics (I buy Healthy trinity for my son that contain Lactobacillus acidophilus – 5 billion cfu, Bifidibacterium bifidum – 20 billion cfu and Lactobacillus bulgaricus – 5billion cfu). It's recommended to take these probiotics 1 hour before or 2 hours after a meal or consumption of medications. Also I just received an e-news letter from Dr. Mercola (if someone familiar with the name). He recommends Bacillus coagulans strain of probiotics  www.products.mercola.com/probiotics/special

Unlike other lactobacilli, L. sporogenes exists as a spore, wrapped in a protective coat. Spores exist like plant seeds – they can stay alive for years. And when conditions exist for optimal growth, they open up and become a new plant.

Taken orally, the spores' protective coat helps them survive the rigors of stomach acid.* The spores get activated due to the low pH, mechanical churning of the stomach, and water in the gastric environment.

As the spores absorb water, they swell and move faster, propelling them into the small intestine.

Once in the small intestine, they germinate, proliferate and multiply rapidly into viable bacilli to persist in their beneficial life activities.

In the intestinal tract, they continue their metabolic activities, producing lactic acid to assist in digestion and absorption of vitamins and minerals.*

In turn, the lactic acid levels on the inner surface of the intestinal tract maintain a micro-ecological balance in the GI tract.*


 




 
 
11 y.o. son with Crohn's, Dx in March 2006,
using enteral nutrition as a main treatment, Pentasa 2000 mg a day, supplements, probiotics and herbs.
 
 

Post Edited (chachka) : 3/10/2008 8:30:09 AM (GMT-6)


miguelblanco
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   Posted 3/10/2008 3:17 PM (GMT -7)   
potatoqwn said...
pb4, I finally started on the Primadophilis reuteri capsules two weeks ago. It was mostly the high marks you gave it that made me want to try it out. Anyway, I feel great. Here's the best part...less gas and less odorous gas and poops! Who knew?

I also just started this same very probiotic. Is this essentially how you know it's working? I was just about to start a thread to ask this very question!

I've been taking it with my dinner at night. It didn't have any directions on the package about when to take it, with or without food, etc. What have people's results been in that regard and what is best in your experience on how to take these?
Type I Diabetes- 28 yrs. (MiniMed Insulin Pump)
Celiac Disease- 6 yrs.
Crohn's Disease- 1+ year (Nov. '06)


pb4
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   Posted 3/10/2008 3:37 PM (GMT -7)   
On my box of primadophilus it doesn't specify to take it with food or not, so I assume that it doesn't matter either way, I've taken it with and without and not noticed any difference either way.

The thing I noticed when I started taking it was it cut down on my BM frequency some...I was averaging about 10/day and when I started with the primadophilus it cut them back to 5 or less/day...I have not had a single mouth sore since taking them, it completely aided my lactose intolerance issue (I no longer have to take lactaid pills) and no more bad breath issues either which are often the cause of bacterial over-growth and I know in my case it was because I have impecable oral hygeine with brushing 3 times/day and flossing every day.

This particular probitotic has guaranteed intestinal release (which is great because of CD not only affecting the small intestine but it can affect the large and any part of the GI tract) and for women, it also aids with vaginal health...I used to get re-occuring yeast infections which I no longer get since taking the primadophilus daily.

Whether in remission or not it's important to take probitotics daily to help keep the natural gut flora in check...IBDers and even IBSers tend to have bacterial over-growth issues which is why a good probiotic is essential everyday.

The other benefits to primadophilus is only one/day is needed and it's quite affordable especially since only one/day is needed only (of course I'm sure it's fine to take 2 or more if one felt the need to).

:)
My bum is broken....there's a big crack down the middle of it!  LOL  :)


jid
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   Posted 3/10/2008 7:54 PM (GMT -7)   
So I tried some of the nature's way today. A friend is trying to convince me to buy the Candida. How long should I take this stuff before I notice anything?

Thanks!!!

J

pb4
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   Posted 3/10/2008 9:40 PM (GMT -7)   
It likely varies for everyone, but I'm betting it'll be good for you even if you don't notice alot of improvements with CD symptoms.

:)
My bum is broken....there's a big crack down the middle of it!  LOL  :)

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