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Blairstl
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   Posted 3/30/2008 5:09 PM (GMT -7)   
Well, I think after 15 years of suffering from Crohns's and arthritis I am finally admitting that I am depressed. It seems that only now, at least in the past year or two, that I have been able to really recognize it as depression. Here’s the problem- I can admit it to myself and this forum (barely) but certainly not anyone else. In addition to the diseases mentioned above, I suffer from IBS which can become extremely painful at points. My doctor suggested taking a low dose anti-depressant to help control symptoms. This might sound twisted, but I am also hoping it can assist in some of my depression problems. I am pretty sure they diagnose a fairly low dose for IBS, but even so, will this help my depression? Any input is appreciated and carefully considered. I am posting this both on the Crohn’s forum as well as the Depression forum. Thank you.
Diagnosed 10 Yrs. ago at the age of 13 with both CD and AS Arthritis. Suffered from illness long before that. Allergic to many drugs including Sulfas and Imuran.


sjkly
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   Posted 3/30/2008 5:25 PM (GMT -7)   
It would help to know which antidepressent and what dose if you feel comfortable sharing that. At too low a dose it may leave you more agitated rather than feeling better but in a theraputic range it should help both the IBS and the depression. Antidepressents can change the way you react to pain-actually decreasing the neuroresponse to pain-depending on what drug, how much, what type of pain....
Sj

dragonfly137927
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   Posted 3/30/2008 6:05 PM (GMT -7)   
i am on elavil however i was placed on it to prevent migraines. Not long after i was Dx w/CD i was Dx with OCD. I only needed sessions with the psychiatrist I didnt need meds for it. When I was with my xhusband I staarted seeing my psych. again. I also had recently revealed to my family of a rape that occurred recently 2 me at my college and i was dealing with my (now late) nana's Dx of breast cancer. I found myself at the point where i needed meds for the depression...plus my ex is bipolar and would go on and off meds pllus he had trichotillomania(sp?). My psychyatrist could tell i needed meds so he placed me on Paxil. this helped my depression somewhat but for my height my max healthy weight is 115...the paxil made me go up to 131.5 pounds prioi r to that i was 90lbs. the weight gain and issues with my ex made my depression worse. I tapered off the paxil and went down to 103 and got a divorce. I remarried and less than 1 yr married I needed my 1st cd Sx then 3 more followed. then last summer i lost 5 family members 1 was my nan who beat breast cancer to only get alzheimers,ministrokes, and seizures. she had taken early retirement which occurred when i was Dx with cd. I have been depressed more recently and that too runs in my family. I cannot really discuss feelings with my husband, he was brought up to keep feelings in and those who dont are weak...I feel i am pretty strong but i need someone to talk to He finally said to me especially since we moved in with my 80 yr old recently widowed grandfather who is showing signs of alzheimers...but he. still sees me as a todler and being here with him 24/7 is making it worse esp since with the pain meds i cant drive yet...that maybe i should see someone. i am going 2 do so when i can drive again since a ride with mygrandpa its like getting into acar with a blind deaf man...even tho his also elderly doc claims he is fine. he was never a good driver but he really should have his license taken away. i already have therapists names and auth from my insurance
Dx with Crohn's 1987, symptoms as early as 1984.
Temp iliostomy February 2007, reversed June 2007, Ovarian cysts, migraines, allergies (incl food allergies) , oral allergy syndrome (diff than true food allergies), Asthma, Gall Bladder removed 1999, Inguenal hernia 1987
 
 
 


Matthew
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   Posted 3/30/2008 6:45 PM (GMT -7)   
Twisted using an Anti-depressent?? In what way? I think beyond the mood problem you have been in quite a bit of denial. There IS nothing wrong with getting help, even it is chemical. Are you one of us brought up in the school of Stoicism? Well, that degree is USELESS in real life with a chronic illness. If you need the help, get it. It is NOT the easy way out. The easy way out is denying a problem until you drink yourself into a coma or decide to take the real easy way out, & punch your own clock!
Its normal to feel down with all the crap this DD & its legion of complications throw at us.
Please get help if you need help.

Ok, lecture over, I hate soapboxes anyway.
Matthew

pb4
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   Posted 3/30/2008 9:08 PM (GMT -7)   
15 must be the magic number....that's about how long I was in for having CD when depression hit me too...thanks to regular exercises, natural supplements which helped my symptoms extreamly and tweaking my diet I think I've pretty much licked the depression.

Good luck to you, it's tough enough dealing with CD let alone depression and anxiety due to it.

:)
My bum is broken....there's a big crack down the middle of it!  LOL  :)


stkitt
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   Posted 3/31/2008 7:51 AM (GMT -7)   

Blairstl

Good Morning, this is Kitt.  Many people with chronic illness have anxiety and depression and it is nothing to feel ashamed of.  I would like to suggest that you are up front with your physician and talk with him /her about your feelings.

You are normal like millions of others that have depression and if you can receive help with your depression than by all means talk to your Doctor.  You are not twisted at all, you are human.

You are always welcome to come here and talk with the other members who are going through the same thing you are.

Gentle Hugs to you.
Kitt

I bumped up a thread on depression from back in February that you might find helpful.  smile
 
Kitt, Moderator: Anxiety ~ Panic  ~ Crohn's
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Post Edited (stkitt) : 3/31/2008 8:58:59 AM (GMT-6)


Blairstl
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   Posted 3/31/2008 6:23 PM (GMT -7)   
Thanks everyone for your help. Everyone who responded is right, and I know that. There is a combination of emotions that make me feel and react the way I do. I am old enough now (and have been) that it is really time to buck up and deal with the problems and emotions I face. I think I was just hoping I could get on the meds for IBS (which I do suffer from) with never even having to discuss my feelings, this being the easy way out. Your responses helped me out a lot, there is nothing to be ashamed of. Thanks.
Diagnosed 10 Yrs. ago at the age of 13 with both CD and AS Arthritis. Suffered from illness long before that. Allergic to many drugs including Sulfas and Imuran.


hana24
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   Posted 3/31/2008 6:36 PM (GMT -7)   
Blairstl - Hi I'm from the UC board I lurk over here from time to time and I was wondering if I could ask you a question. My doctor also says that I might have IBS and I have been trying to find others with IBS as well as IBD who have taken steroids. Do you IBS symptoms go away when you are on prednisone or Entocort?
Jessica 26/F
Asacol 4pills /three times a day(from 2 pills/ three times a day)
Culturelle once daily
Tried (Entorcort EC 9ml/day and Prednisone)


Bonwilsky
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   Posted 3/31/2008 7:35 PM (GMT -7)   
Blairstl - -
I am on this forum because my husband suffers from Crohn's, however I have much experience with chronic depression.  I know you are hoping that the low dose that you may recieve for your IBS will be enough, but I can not urge you enough to go and get treated for your depression specifically.  You need to be on a theraputic dose of medication if you want help that way and chances are good that the first-generation anti-depressants (Elavil is one of them) won't be enough to help, especially at low dosage.  I am sending you big (((HUGS))) because acknowledging you have depression and getting treated for it can be so difficult to deal with, but getting it treated and overcoming it makes such a huge difference in your life.  I wish you the best of luck!
Bonnie
Wife to 26 y/o diagnosed with Crohn's in August 2006
Possible perianal fistula presence for 2 or more years
Taking Remicade but switching to Humira 


ZenaWP
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   Posted 4/1/2008 9:31 AM (GMT -7)   
I would definitely recommend seeing a psychiatrist to get medication to help with both the IBS and depression.  I first starting taking anti-depressants/anti-anxiety medication prescribed by my GP many years ago due to a atalker.  Once they thought I had IBS, or gallbladder problems, or all of the other dx's I received before Crohn's, they decided I should stay on something to help with the IBS symptoms, but switched my anti-depressant, as many of them can cause D and stomach pain.  My last GI changed my meds again to provide more gut relief but ended up putting me on 2 anti-depressants that should not be used together.  He had no idea.  Luckily, my mom worked for a psychiatrist and asked him and he said I should not be on those 2 together.  I ended up seeing a psychiastrist who knew what would work for the anxiety/depression and what would be easy on the gut.  I don't agree that the older medications won't help with the depression, as that is what I am taking and they do help with both the gut and the stress/depression.  My psychiatrist said the older ones are the ones that have the fewest stomach related side-effects.  If they recommend starting with those and seeing if those are strong enough to help with the depression, try it.  I am currently taking Remeron and it has helped me.   
...rejoice in our sufferings, because we know that suffering produces perseverence; perseverence, character; and character, hope.   Romans 5:3-4


ZenaWP
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   Posted 4/1/2008 9:32 AM (GMT -7)   
Sorry, that should have said "due to a stalker." 
...rejoice in our sufferings, because we know that suffering produces perseverence; perseverence, character; and character, hope.   Romans 5:3-4


Crohn'snme
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   Posted 4/1/2008 1:04 PM (GMT -7)   
I take Cymbalta for back pain and it treats my depression. Having a disease of this magnatitude is overwhelming to say the least. It helps me through the bad times and seems to help the fatigue. Good luck in your decisions. Wishing you health.

Blairstl
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   Posted 4/2/2008 8:05 PM (GMT -7)   
Thanks again everyone for all of your kind words and advice. The IBS being treated with Anti-Depressants is new to me, so all of this info is very informative. I know first hand, that being on the wrong dose of medicine is useless- so I don't know why I wouldn't apply the same rationale here. I am going to do it the right way.

hana24- My doctor suspected IBS about a year ago, so it is hard to say, because I was never associating those symptoms with IBS- just Crohn's. I can tell you this, that when I was on prednisone and then entocort, I did not have these symptoms. So maybe that is an answer! I also know that it feels like Crohn's which makes it near impossible to differentiate the two. To wander for a minute, I often wonder if the two can co-exist. Personally, I find it hard to believe. I know there are many doctors out there who believe it and others who don't. Just a thought.
Diagnosed 10 Yrs. ago at the age of 13 with both CD and AS Arthritis. Suffered from illness long before that. Allergic to many drugs including Sulfas and Imuran.

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