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tilli
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   Posted 4/3/2008 10:08 AM (GMT -7)   
Hi,
 
I've been trying to come off Methotrexate for a while now but my doc says my CD is still too active. My husband and I are both desperate to start a family but the doc says the risks are too high. I've been on MTX for 18mths now and have been told there are no other treatments left for me to try. None that are safe for use during pregnancy anyway. Has anyone heard of any new drug treatments that would be safe for me to try?
 
Thank you in advance for any information anyone may have to offer me,
 
Tilli

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   Posted 4/3/2008 10:52 AM (GMT -7)   
Well, it's not a drug treatment, but you could always try total enteral nutrition (elemental, semi-elemental, or polymeric diet). These are special liquid diets used instead of regular food to induce remission, and used along with regular food in lesser quantities to maintain remission. Very effective if you have small intestinal Crohn's, less so with Crohn's colitis. It's not much used in the US, especially in adults, but it is a valid, clinically tested treatment that has been around since the late 1960s. US docs tend to think it's too difficult to ask people to give up their regular diet for a few weeks, but it is more widely used in other countries, especially for children with Crohn's.

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   Posted 4/3/2008 2:56 PM (GMT -7)   
Remicade and Humira have been used in pregnancy.
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   Posted 4/3/2008 4:37 PM (GMT -7)   
Remicade and Humira are class B drugs which indicate they are safe for pregnancy and nursing (something which I learned last weekend at the CCFA conference and was super glad to hear; they will be posting all the workshop powerpoint presentations online soon and I'll link to them). They had a really great one on pregnancy and IBD. Have you tried either??
Laurenne, 23 Student @ University of California, Davis.
Dx'd w/ IBS and CD in 2002
Just started taking Humira and feeling crazy good.


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   Posted 4/3/2008 4:44 PM (GMT -7)   
I was in similar shoes, on lots of med, none working well enough, I couldn't get stable. I had 2 miscarriages, both at 8 weeks and was worried I would never be well enough to have a baby. Then someone here at Healingwell told me about the Specific Carbohydrate Diet. I read about it and bought the book, "Breaking the Vicious Cycle, Intestinal Health Through Diet" by Elaine Gottschall. I went on the diet immediately and within 4 days the cramping, bloating, and gas stopped. Within 7 days the bleeding and diarrhea stopped. Three months into the diet I got pregnant - and STAYED pregnant. I stayed on the diet until I started my 2nd trimester because by then I had gone into pregnancy-induced remission and I didn't need the diet any more because I was stable and could eat whatever I wanted. I was on Remicade throughout my entire pregnancy also and I'm sure that helped to keep everything quiet.

If you'd like me to tell you more, you can email me. Just click on my user name to get my email address.

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   Posted 4/3/2008 5:25 PM (GMT -7)   
i was supposed to get a colostomy in july 2006. then i found the makers diet. within days of being on it, and cheating mind you, i noticed improvement. i never got the colostomy and i've been off all my meds since halloween 2007 and i feel the best i've felt in my life. i forgot what it feels like to be healthy (ind results do vary).
Crazy Harry

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Crohn's since 1993 (17 yrs old then)
surgery in July '05 - removal of 2 inches at ileum and 8 inches of sigmoid colon (had fistula into bladder)
Nov '05 developed colonic inertia; July '06 told i needed ostomy surgery
began maker's diet in August '06 - now feeling the best ever with no symptoms of colonic inertia and i kept my colon
med free as of 10/31/07


kim123
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   Posted 4/3/2008 5:55 PM (GMT -7)   
CrazyH...do you still follow the diet strictly, or just a modified version now? What do you usually eat for breakfast?

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   Posted 4/3/2008 8:43 PM (GMT -7)   
i stick to it as strictly as i can. i find i feel better if i do and thus i can only imagine healthier. i've incorporated some things from the scd as well. i consider each time i eat out or have any meal where i did not have some control over purchasing the ingredients and preparing the food cheating. but then when i do eat out i scrutinize the food and try to make the best choices possible - entree salads with lemon as dressing, no farm raised fish, no fried food, no rice (except random sushi rolls) or pasta or any grain if i can help it (once in a while i'll actually eat the tortilla with the burrito or wrap, but i'll tear off a lot of it), no soda (ever), no dessert, no fast food, no spicy food, no heavy sauces or rich foods. stuff like that.

as for breakfast, if i have any grains i try to have them only in the morning. your body responds better to grains in the morning and they come in handy after the gym which i do in the morning after waking up. i also take my green drink in the morning too. so for example,

home made yogurt with 1/2 cup ezekiel cereal (that is 1 serving of cereal, this way i know my carb intake via grains) with organic rasins
hard boiled free range high omega 3 egg
farmers cheese (on occasion)
fruit (on occasion)

or

3 range free high omega 3 scrambled eggs with onion, garlic, red bell pepper, and tomatoes sauteed in coconut oil
1 slice sprouted grain toast with coconut oil/flax seed coconut oil butter/organic butter and cinnamon (sometimes i'll skip the toast)

or

1/3 steel cut oats with cinnamon and 1 tablespoon real maple syrup
fruit and/or cheese and/or eggs


or

smoothie in maker's diet book

or

home made granola with yogurt
fruit and/or cheese and/or eggs

once in a blue moon i'll make some pancakes - about 3 palm sized pancakes made from spelt/buckwheat flour, high omega 3 egg, flax seed oil, filtered water. blueberries are optional. once cooked, spread on organic butter and small amount of maple syrup. i'll eat some left over steak if i have that from the night before or even cook up some turkey sausage in coconut oil if i have time. i cant do fish in the morning. must be a mental thing but that just doesnt register as breakfast food to me.
Crazy Harry

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Crohn's since 1993 (17 yrs old then)
surgery in July '05 - removal of 2 inches at ileum and 8 inches of sigmoid colon (had fistula into bladder)
Nov '05 developed colonic inertia; July '06 told i needed ostomy surgery
began maker's diet in August '06 - now feeling the best ever with no symptoms of colonic inertia and i kept my colon
med free as of 10/31/07


tilli
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   Posted 4/4/2008 9:31 AM (GMT -7)   

Hi,

Thank you to everyone for your responses and advice. I have tried Remicade and suffered major allergic reaction to it so needless to say thats a no go drug for me anymore. Humira however is one i am waiting to try as it is not yet licensed in the UK. My doctor has mentioned this drug to me and he is constantly checking on it's process to UK licensing.

I am very keen to try a couple of the diets mentioned in the posts and will take all this information with me to my next appointment and discuss the options with my Doctor.

Once again thank you

Best wishes and good health to you all

Tilli


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   Posted 4/4/2008 11:25 AM (GMT -7)   
Crazy Harry, Are you lactose intolerant?? The diet sounds very hard? Is it?

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   Posted 4/4/2008 5:56 PM (GMT -7)   
crohn'snme -

yes, i am lactose intolerant. my first GI told me that like 99% of people with crohn's become lactose intolerant (he only told me this of course after i told i think i had become lactose intolerant cos of the painful gas and bloating i was having the last few months - thanks for nothing doc....).

i can handle yogurt and cheese but not in large quantities. i make my own yogurt as i can control the base (ie milk) and probiotic strains. also this way i think i have a much better chance of having more active cultures and live cultures and i dont pasteurize my yogurt after making it. plus i incubate it for like 24 hours which, according to the scd, is supposed to burn off all or most of the lactose in it. and it tastes freaking good compared to the store bought plain yogurts. i only drink milk on the rare blue moon occasion i have a small latte.

the diet is incredibly hard when first starting out. diets are all about will power. the better you stick to it, the better your results. but this is not a diet, these are permanent lifestyle changes. it took a few months to get acclimated to eating this way, plus i had to learn how to shop all over again, but it was totally worth it. i feel healthier, i am off all my meds, and i've learned a TON about nutrition. but once you get used to eating a certain way it becomes a habit and thus easy. i dont feel symtpomatic and if eating this way is why, i'll gladly take the trade of eating fruits and vegetables and organic foods and not eating the baked goods, processed foods, grain and sugar stuff.
Crazy Harry

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Crohn's since 1993 (17 yrs old then)
surgery in July '05 - removal of 2 inches at ileum and 8 inches of sigmoid colon (had fistula into bladder)
Nov '05 developed colonic inertia; July '06 told i needed ostomy surgery
began maker's diet in August '06 - now feeling the best ever with no symptoms of colonic inertia and i kept my colon
med free as of 10/31/07


kim123
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   Posted 4/4/2008 7:52 PM (GMT -7)   
CrazyHarry, I sure admire you. I had mentioned previously that an antifungal diet was the only thing that helped me get well, but it sure is hard sometimes to "stay the course" after you start feeling better. Thank you for the breakfast ideas. I find breakfast the hardest, most limited meal to plan for, and eat the right foods.You are absolutely right...it is a lifestyle change, and I agree that if it means having your life back, with no symptoms, then it is not a sacrifice. You are an inspiration to me, and I thank you for sharing your story. I am one who truly believes that diet/nutrition choices in life has everything to do with good health. BTW, what supplements do you take that you think may also be helping you sustain your good health?

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   Posted 4/4/2008 8:51 PM (GMT -7)   
For my brekky, I usually have
sourdough rye bread toasted with org. butter, org. peanut butter, and natural straw. jam sweetened with grape juice,
a banana
OJ
org. coffee with 1 tsp. org. honey and org. cream.

I also enjoy the pancakes recipe in the makers diet, minus the pecans (I'm allergic).

CrazyHarry
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   Posted 4/5/2008 7:56 AM (GMT -7)   
kim123 -

i take a whole bunch of supplements. garden of life cod liver oil. digestive enzymes (1-3 with each meal, depending on size and ingredients), probiotic, green drink, multivitamin, E, B-12, peter gilham's natural calm plus calcium (6 years on prednisone gave me osteoporosis. scan says i am fine now, but i think this is worth taking for me)

first and foremost though is eating properly - as much organic whole foods as possible. i look at food now as medicine.

from my own experience, the longer i've been eating this way the easier it has become. with my renewed health it has made me pretty anal about trying to only eat this way. i can tolerate eating out on occasion, but i must scrutinize what i eat and where, and when i do i feel a tad guilty. also if i go too far off the diet, i'll get physically ill from eating foods my body is not used to and this can last like one to five days. so that too motivates me to stick to what most people would view as a regimented eating plan.

eating this way you not only have to learn how to eat and shop for groceries all over again, but you need to re-budget your time to allow for the food shopping and also the food preparation. that too is hard at first, but once you notice the food tastes better and just how easy it is to cook, you'll learn to love that too. if you think about it, it takes like a half an hour to an hour to go out, get a meal and eat it. in that time you could have made a healthier and quite possibly better meal on your own. it is all about priorities and mindset. one can argue that it was "easier" for me cos i was facing colostomy surgery, or that i have more time cos i am single and dont have kids, but i believe those are just excuses people use, at least initially, to justify not doing this. they have failed before they started and thus will not be able to do it. i believe in the power of the mind. you can do amazing things if you want to. it is all willpower and determination. ok, i'm done philosophizing.

glad i can help in any way :-)
Crazy Harry

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Crohn's since 1993 (17 yrs old then)
surgery in July '05 - removal of 2 inches at ileum and 8 inches of sigmoid colon (had fistula into bladder)
Nov '05 developed colonic inertia; July '06 told i needed ostomy surgery
began maker's diet in August '06 - now feeling the best ever with no symptoms of colonic inertia and i kept my colon
med free as of 10/31/07


Crohn'snme
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   Posted 4/5/2008 1:20 PM (GMT -7)   
Crazy Harry, Thanks for being so willing to share this information. At this point, I'm so sick, in bed as we speak and my son and husband are out playing tennis, I am willing to try anything. I think I might get the book and seriously consider this. I'm already on a way of eating so to speak, so this would be like you said, not a diet but a lifestyle change. P.S. I enjoy reading your comments, one specifically I read to my husband and we both laughed hysterically, I wish I could remember which one it was. Anyway, you have been well since October 2007 without meds, that's amazing!!!

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   Posted 4/5/2008 1:41 PM (GMT -7)   
no problem. i am glad i can help. i know if i was told this stuff any earlier with my battle with crohn's i may not have tried it, dismissing it out of hand as hocus pocus and not wanting to change my eating habits, or going through the motion, doing it half assed which would result in minimal results which would then allow me to go back to old way of eating thinking there wasnt really anything to this and/or it just didnt work for me. you gotta go hard core for like a month to really see if it works for you and just how well it can. the longer you are on it, i think the better the results will be, and the less you cheat the better your results as well. take it slow at first, if you like, to get adjusted to it. when i started the makers diet i began on phase 3 cos phases 1 and 2 were just too intimidating. yes, i saw results and my condition improved, but it wasnt until i redid it, beginning at phase 1 and sticking to the directions to the proverbial T that i really got the benefits from it. that has convinced me to stick with it as much as i can, even though it can be hard at times, especially when eating out or traveling or at get togethers.

funny you mentioned tennis. i used to play a bunch with my family before i was diagnosed. my father was a professional instructor before he retired and he taught my brother and i to play as a doubles team. around the time i was diagnosed i had to quit halfway through a match cos i no longer had the energy. i was physically wiped out. my father's way of motivating you is to rip you and put you on a guilt trip (thanks dad). boy were the tables turned on him when he found out the reason i wasnt able to continue was because i was anemic and malnourished from crohn's disease. doh!

since i stopped my meds i cant truly say that i am "well". i believe that is a relative and trivial word, in some respects. this is a chronic disease so i'll always be in danger of not being well and i'll have my bad days from this later on in my life i expect. i have been feeling really good since like june of last year. i had a little hicup with anemia that required two blood transfusions in the latter part of 2007, but once i got off the 6-mp that seemed to go away. i think it was the med causing bone marrow suppression, so go figure. so am i "well"? who knows. i feel freaking great and no real symptoms so i'll take that. i do have some bloating on occasion. i have to watch what i eat as i can still get stomach aches with typical "no no foods". i have an abscess that wont heal and bleeds on occasion and i have a stricture in the anus/rectum area caused by the disease. but i dont have the constant nagging stomach ache, stools are normal, i am no longer incontenant, my bowel movements are not bloody, and i have plenty of energy. i'll have a colonoscopy early next year as it will be 3 years since my last one. that was done like 6 months after surgery and it showed everything as healthy. so we'll use that as a comparison to see how things look and that will be the 2nd marker as to just how well i am doing, especially in regards to the diet and being off meds. that will be really really interesting...
Crazy Harry

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Crohn's since 1993 (17 yrs old then)
surgery in July '05 - removal of 2 inches at ileum and 8 inches of sigmoid colon (had fistula into bladder)
Nov '05 developed colonic inertia; July '06 told i needed ostomy surgery
began maker's diet in August '06 - now feeling the best ever with no symptoms of colonic inertia and i kept my colon
med free as of 10/31/07


Crohn'snme
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   Posted 4/5/2008 8:47 PM (GMT -7)   
Crazy Harry, Did you follow the diet in the beginning on-line or just by the book. Oh and what's the green drink? Sorry have to ask. Oh and as far as your father, we can only learn from our parents mistakes. Right?? Are you cooking for yourself or do you share this diet with others. I'm wondering how my family would adjust if I included them at least somewhat. Have you tried the cream for your anal fissure that is mixed with blood pressure meds? It seemed to relieve some pain for me at least. They seem to be hard to get rid of though. I think I will go back and look at the diet again, it did seem a bit intimidating, but maybe if I look at it the way you started and go from there it might be easier.

Janice-Oregon

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   Posted 4/6/2008 10:23 AM (GMT -7)   
i was introduced to jordan rubin through my acupuncturist. she loaned me "patient heal thyself" when i was looking for non-western ways to combat my crohn's and colonic inertia to avoid colostomy surgery. in it he talks about the maker's diet and gives a brief overview. so that prompted me to buy that book and the rest is history. i had a chance to meet him january of 2007 and he gave me a special tailored made version of the makers diet to do for 4 months. it made the book version of phases 1 and 2 easier as i was on phase 1 for 3 months with a carb ceiling of 80 grams per day (total, not net carbs) and then 1 month on phase 2 with a slightly increased carb ceiling. and all this time i was only able to drink distilled water. doing this i didnt have any grains and sugars for over 4 months. my taste buds changed, i no longer have a sweet tooth or cravings for sweets or grains/starches, and i am very sensitive to sugar and high glycemic foods and most processed foods make me physically ill now, but i am soooooo glad i did it. it got me to where i am today. however i do not suggest you try it. stick to the book version.

a green drink is basically a combination of young cereal grasses. most also add some combination of algae. there are many brands out there. the garden of life one is perfect food and comes in a few flavors. some people really like it, but i think it tastes gross (green drink in general). so i add some spinach, flax seed oil, and then drink it like a college freshman at a fraternity party - as fast as i can. the powder is much better and effective than the pill form, imho. after digestive enzymes, i feel it is the 2nd best supplement you can take.

i do all my own cooking and shopping as i live alone. most people are amazed at what i eat and how good it tastes if i cook for them (and how simple cooking really is) but they dont commit themselves to the lifestyle change. oh well. their loss. i have recently gotten my sister into this (it took over a year though). she's doing the perfect weight version (i tried to start her with jordan's women's health book). i have a couple other friends trying the makers diet. and then another friend i turned on to the great physician's rx. all basically the same thing but with a different angle in the presentation which will help it appeal to the ones that the other versions did not. ie, makers is more faith based, perfect weight is geared towards the health/fitness/weightloss craze, and physicans' rx is more in an olde word, natural type of eating. no one i've introduced this to is as committed as i am and end up doing their own subtle versions with what i consider plenty of cheats, but then when you "feel" healthy, factor in the added cost of food for organic, time shopping and cooking, and them maybe raising a family on top of that, it makes it hard for them to truly commit 100% to it so they rationalize the cheats. something is better than nothing so at least they made the first step in the right direction but it takes a few months of due diligence to make the habit and reap the benefits to make you want to only eat this way.

i introduced emom to the maker's diet to help her 13 year old son. she put her whole family on it. talk to her and perhaps she can give you some advice and stories of how it has worked for her and her family. i believe that in order for you to really do it, you need to put your family on it cos it will be too hard for you to make separate meals and shop at different places and you'll always be fighting the temptation right in front of you.

technically the only med i use is proctocream, but only as needed. it is a hydrocortisone cream and it provides temporary relief. sitz baths help too. humid, not weather exacerbates it, especially if i do a lot of walking. the ocean helps though. if it gets real bad i'll ask for some corticosteroid suppositories.
Crazy Harry

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Crohn's since 1993 (17 yrs old then)
surgery in July '05 - removal of 2 inches at ileum and 8 inches of sigmoid colon (had fistula into bladder)
Nov '05 developed colonic inertia; July '06 told i needed ostomy surgery
began maker's diet in August '06 - now feeling the best ever with no symptoms of colonic inertia and i kept my colon
med free as of 10/31/07


Illini
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   Posted 4/6/2008 10:35 AM (GMT -7)   
I strongly recommend you try enteral nutrition. As long as you have some Crohn's inflammation in the small intestine it is about as effective as steriods at eliciting remission.
 
I use the polymeric formula Nutren 1.5 and drink only water. It requires a lot of willpower but I have been very happy with the results.
 


CrazyHarry
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   Posted 4/6/2008 2:35 PM (GMT -7)   
as far as i know, if i have any active disease it is in the rectum/anus area. i had 2 inches of my ileum removed at the same time i had close to a foot of my colon removed. but i'll definitely keep this in mind if the disease does return to my small bowel. thanks.
Crazy Harry

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Crohn's since 1993 (17 yrs old then)
surgery in July '05 - removal of 2 inches at ileum and 8 inches of sigmoid colon (had fistula into bladder)
Nov '05 developed colonic inertia; July '06 told i needed ostomy surgery
began maker's diet in August '06 - now feeling the best ever with no symptoms of colonic inertia and i kept my colon
med free as of 10/31/07


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   Posted 4/6/2008 5:10 PM (GMT -7)   
CrazyHarry said...
i introduced emom to the maker's diet to help her 13 year old son. she put her whole family on it. talk to her and perhaps she can give you some advice and stories of how it has worked for her and her family. i believe that in order for you to really do it, you need to put your family on it cos it will be too hard for you to make separate meals and shop at different places and you'll always be fighting the temptation right in front of you.


Hi all...my ears were burning! We were gone for 8 days with no internet access. eyes

Yes, CrazyHarry helped me *immensely* in the beginning with the diet! I still learn more every time I read one of his posts! I also keep the book handy and refer to it often. I don't think many details about the diet and recipes are available online, but I could be wrong.

Crohn'snme, your family would greatly benefit from this diet! As CH said, our family of 4 is all on it even though my son is the only one with CD. My daughter just turned 18 and realizes this too often runs in families. She was more than happy to do the diet with the rest of us. Hopefully she will never have any issues with Crohns, but she now knows what really, really healthy eating is--and that's a good thing! (Enter college years and really unhealthy eating... I'll keep you posted on that!)

My hubby, one who has always been quite fit and athletic, lost weight without trying on the MD. He only needed to drop maybe 10 pounds, but the side benefit is that his blood pressure and triglycerides are now well within normal range (they used to consistently run in the low end of high. he refused to medicate, but felt he controlled it with exercise. now he really believes in the power of the diet. [high bp runs in his family even though no one is actually overweight]). I also lost weight without trying. I needed to lose a few lbs. so this was good!

Not that this is a weight loss diet, of course. It's just a far more healthy way to eat than the usual western diet. It stands to reason that by eliminating all the sugar, flour and processed foods that the lbs drop off naturally. That said, I am constantly encouraging my son to eat eat eat because he needs the carbs and protein to continue his sport of competitive swimming. Thankfully, he has managed to continue growing and putting on muscle and competing. I thank God!

It did take me a while to get "up to speed" on the diet, but it has been more than worth it. I agree with CH's point that it would be hard to cook one way for yourself and continue the old ways for your family. I guess that's why I gave the input about my family above. If you can get everyone "on board", the lifelong benefits to all will be immense.

Oh...and CrazyHarry, I actually kinda like my green drink. Is this weird? I really don't mind the taste. I read somewhere that it lowers the alkalinity of our bodies (which are too alkaline due to diet) and thus gives us more energy. I feel like I do have more energy when I drink it regularly....yet another good thing!

Good luck, Crohn'snme! I hope this is a tiny bit of help for you!
EMom
Mother to 16 year old boy diagnosed in June, 2007.
Currently taking Asacol, omega 3s, digestive enzymes, probiotics, iron, vit. C, calcium w/D3 and a good multivitamin.
Started The Maker's Diet in early September.


CrazyHarry
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   Posted 4/6/2008 8:15 PM (GMT -7)   
hi emom! always glad to hear success stories :-)

my brother, and others, likes the way the green drink tastes. i dont really care for it, hence my version of adding spinach and flax seed oil. i've tried 4 brands and they all taste different. some are more palpable than others.

the green drink raises your alkalinity (ie it pushes your body over the pH level of 7, 7 being neutral with below 7 being acid and above 7 being basic, or alkaline). the western diet, high in processed foods and carbs, is a highly acidic diet. but then meat also turns your body acidic. really the only thing that helps balance this out are vegetables, which is why i so love the green drink cos it packs in a ton of good stuff in such a little bit. i take it in the morning so i get my vegetables with breakfast.

bacteria and disease does do well in an alkaline diet. the green drink helps keep me alkaline. this is also why i am looking into alkaline or hexagonal water. the water is more of an anti-oxidant and helps purge the system of "junk" and keeps you clean and healthy. the clusters are smaller so the water is absorbed faster and easier into cells which equates to quicker hydration and transport of nutrients. this is the next step above just drinking a good quality purified water. as it is kinda out there, even for me, i know it is not for everyone.
Crazy Harry

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Crohn's since 1993 (17 yrs old then)
surgery in July '05 - removal of 2 inches at ileum and 8 inches of sigmoid colon (had fistula into bladder)
Nov '05 developed colonic inertia; July '06 told i needed ostomy surgery
began maker's diet in August '06 - now feeling the best ever with no symptoms of colonic inertia and i kept my colon
med free as of 10/31/07


EMom
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   Posted 4/7/2008 8:30 AM (GMT -7)   
Oooops...I had the alkalinity thing all backwards. :-)

Hexagonal water is new to me. Whoa...... I just googled it. Lots to read about it. Will you purchase one of the counter top units?
EMom
Mother to 16 year old boy diagnosed in June, 2007.
Currently taking Asacol, omega 3s, digestive enzymes, probiotics, iron, vit. C, calcium w/D3 and a good multivitamin.
Started The Maker's Diet in early September.


Nanners
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   Posted 4/7/2008 9:03 AM (GMT -7)   
Harry whats that calm with Calcium for? I know to give you addl calcium but was curious about the "calm".
Been living with Crohn's Disease for 32 years.  Currently on Asacol, Prilosec 60 mg, Estrace, Prinivil, Diltiazem, Percoset prn for pain and Calcium.  Resections in 2002 and 2005.  Recently diagnosed with Fibromyalgia and doing tests to see if I have Inflammatory Arthritis or AS.


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   Posted 4/7/2008 4:35 PM (GMT -7)   
emom -

i am debating about getting the counter top unit. check out ionways. i'm trying to pick some brains of people before i make such an expensive purchase.

nanners -

that is the name of the supplement - natural calm. product info:

Natural Calm was developed exclusively by Peter Gillham, a leading magnesium researcher. Natural Calm is the only water-soluble magnesium using Mr. Gillham's delivery system, which is crucial for maximum magnesium absorption. This process is exclusive to Natural Calm. contains no starch, sugar, yeast, coloring or preservatives.
Crazy Harry

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Crohn's since 1993 (17 yrs old then)
surgery in July '05 - removal of 2 inches at ileum and 8 inches of sigmoid colon (had fistula into bladder)
Nov '05 developed colonic inertia; July '06 told i needed ostomy surgery
began maker's diet in August '06 - now feeling the best ever with no symptoms of colonic inertia and i kept my colon
med free as of 10/31/07

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