Non-Crohns? feeling of painc attack, heart attack, seizure??

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John510
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   Posted 4/5/2008 2:00 PM (GMT -7)   
Hey guys I have been scared recently becuase if I think of this feeling I get sometimes (heart races, loss of breath, blurry vision, feel like your going to have  heart attack or seizure or sometime) I feel it. I ask here becuase I have no other problems that I no of besides this darn crohns. Could it be something realted? Anyone know what I am talking about? Also sometimes when im trying to sleep and feel myself nodding off i get this. Its realll scary!! As some of you know my parents arent real supportive with anything im only 18 and just wanna know what this may be before I have a heart attack or seizure..YIKES!

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   Posted 4/5/2008 2:25 PM (GMT -7)   
John, I have those same feelings all of the time. It could be a NUMBER of different things long before it is a heart attack or a seizure. I've feared the exact same things with the exact same symptoms! It's hard NOT to think of those things when you're having those symptoms. It's very scary.

Lately my heart had been racing a lot and I'd be having a hard time catching my breath (couldn't yawn right). It was so bad that I went and had a complete cardiology workup with stress test, heart monitor and echocardiogram. Doc said my heart is as perfect as it can be! So now HEART ATTACK is off my mind.

The following week, my GI asked me to go in and have my Iron levels checked. Turns out, they were really low. Do you know what the symptoms of low Iron are besides extreme fatigue? A fast or Irregular heartbeat (an awareness that you're breathing), shortness of breath and dizziness. All symptoms of a heart attack! I never would have guessed that.

Anxiety over this DARN CROHN'S DISEASE can also cause all of your symptoms. I get a racing heart sometimes because of anxiety. And you don't have to FEEL anxious about anything for anxiety to take you over. Sometimes my heart will just start racing for no reason...even if I'm just enjoying a song in the car not really thinking about anything but that! Anxiety sucks and rears its head at weird times with symptoms that make us think something much worse is happening.

I also get that feeling sometimes when I'm nodding off to sleep, too. It's like my breathing all of a sudden stops or skips and I jerk awake and feel all shaky and like I can't get a breath. For me, that is anxiety related.

I'm sorry to hear your parents aren't real supportive...I know that has got to be tough. You're not alone, though. MANY of us on here know exactly what you're experiencing. Might want to run all your symptoms by your doctor when you get a chance. If you found out your Iron was low, wouldn't that make you feel less scared? :)
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   Posted 4/5/2008 2:36 PM (GMT -7)   
Next time you feel this way, call 911. You need a complete medical evaluation. If it doesn't happen before your next GI appointment, be sure to explain these symptoms to your GI or go see your family doctor and explain your symptoms. Please get yourself seen and taken care of. Your health is important! Take care of yourself.

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   Posted 4/5/2008 3:43 PM (GMT -7)   
John I agree with Kittikat. Could be low iron or anxiety/panic. I have had Crohns a longtime and didn't develop the anxiety until recently. Maybe give your GI a call and see if you can get some bloods run. If everything is okay, maybe talk to your GP for something to ease the anxiety. I personally take Xanax and it really helps during those times.
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gachrons
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   Posted 4/5/2008 4:51 PM (GMT -7)   
Hi John I agree you should get some testing done to releave your worry crohn's can cause ots of symnptoms and so can our meds. if something is bothering you ,you should get it checked. I know at night I wake up with the blankets on my face and not breathing good seems to be a habit I somehow started lately. Hope you get some answers soon and let us know how things are going with you . lol gail

John510
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   Posted 4/10/2008 1:54 PM (GMT -7)   
Hey guys thanks for all the replies. I got my hands on some xanax (rule one) Anyway they helped a little but I dont want to become depdent on them.

I also have REAALL vivid dreams..they seem so real its scary then I wake up and have to catch my breath. Just as I type this I cant take a nap becuase my heart is pounding. And ive been up so long and had work..very unlike me.

What tests can they do..I really need immediate relief to get by for a little bit

Could it possibly be smoking or alcohol use?

Post Edited By Moderator (MMMNAVY) : 4/12/2008 1:40:35 PM (GMT-6)


Glad Bag
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   Posted 4/10/2008 3:07 PM (GMT -7)   
hey, i won't give you a hard time for borrowing some meds, I have done the same before, but, IMHO, Xanax is probably too strong too start with....it will screw you up if you keep taking it and then go off, making the anxiety harder to deal with....i know this since i know of quite a few people who have taken it without doctor (or sometimes even with) doctor monitoring.... and have had problems as a result....among younger people in California, Xanax is a very commonly abused precription drug, sold/stolen/taken by kids and young adults....i know a few who really screwed themselves on it....

i know I am going out on a limb, and kind of making an unprofessional guess, but it sounds like maybe you might have Atrial Fibrillation (or as someone above called it "irregular heartbeat")

you see....that condition does not always show up on an Electro-cardio-gram because it is not a constant condition.

Often, when people who have the condition, which is intermittent and unpredictable, they go to the ER or urgent care, but the symptoms are gone before the ECG can be hooked up.

To figure it out, you may need to have your primary care doc, write a standing order (a note) that you carry with you, and next time you experience the symptoms, you would rush to the urgent care, and hand it to the nurse, and they could skip you to the front of the line to get the ECG right away...just a thought....it can happen at any age....so ask your doc...

i think, though that it is more simple, like just anxiety. I had some mild anxiety attacks like that once...

it was years ago, and I just pushed thru it....being young and feeling invincible those days..

recently, I got a script for Ativan and take one or two on tough days, it works fast, and doesn't make me too weird to be able to work or carry on with my regular business if I need to...

other than that, maybe just a B vitamin or iron or other defieciency.....try eating bananas and drinking those vitamin waters....it may do the trick...

ok, good luck
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Glad Bag
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   Posted 4/10/2008 3:09 PM (GMT -7)   
oh, i doubt it is smoking or alcohol use...since you are only 18, you would have to be constantly smoking, and drinking vodka like it was water....

what other drugs are you taking? come on....be honest! hehe...
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FitzyK23
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   Posted 4/10/2008 6:12 PM (GMT -7)   
Hey John - I was wondering the same thing. I used to work in juvenile corrections and what you are describing sounds a lot like what kids experiencing coming off cocaine. But - it also sounds a lot like anxiety too. I am so not accusing you of using drugs but just wanted to make you feel comfortable to talk about it if you were. It can really screw with your heart. If you have ever used it in the past, make sure you fess up to your doc so they can run the proper tests.
26 Year old married female law student.  Diagnosed w/ CD 3 years ago, IBS for over 10 years before that, which was probably the CD.  I am sort of lactose intollerant too but can handle anything cultured and do well w/ lactose pills and lactaid.  For crohns I am currently on Pentasa 4 pills/4x day and hysociamine prn.  I also have bad acid reflux and have been on PPI's since age 13.  I have been through prilosec, prevacid, and nexium.  Currently I am on Protonix in the morning and Zantac at night.  I alos take a birth control pill to allow some fun in my life.
 
 


belleenstein
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   Posted 4/10/2008 7:20 PM (GMT -7)   
John:

For my money, I'd wager on this being a panic attack. The first time I experienced these symptoms -- racing heart, breathlessness, heaviness that made it difficult to move -- I thought I was having a heart attack. I was recuperating from a crushing period of illness, surgery and health emergencies. I awoke in this condition shortly after nodding off one evening. The fear only increased the sensations. I couldn't move, I could scream out for my husband, I felt frozen.

But it passed. It happened again a few nights later and again I was scared, but when it passed again, I started thinking that maybe this was physiological response to anxiety, stress. The next time it happened, I talked myself down from the escalation of anxiety. I chose to just observe what was happening instead of reacting to it. It didn't last as long. I continued with this approach of non-interference. I just accepted the sensations and observed them instead of resisting or fighting them. They became less frequent over the next few months and eventually disappeared altogether.

Many years later, after a similar health event, I again experienced similar symptoms. This time I mentioned them to my family doc (I never did mention them to anyone the first time round). She referred me to a cardiologist for a complete work-up, which turned out to be negative.

I haven't had one for a long, long time, but I know that if I'm in for a particularly rough patch healthwise, especially if I keep my anxieties bottled up, I could be in for another spell of these troubling symptoms.

Having said all that, I would strongly recommend that you discuss your symptoms with your family physician. Taking drugs may turn out to be the answer for you, but it should be monitored by a physician. And why not consider using behavior modification. It can't hurt you. And while drugs might help ease the symptoms they are not going to ever reach the root of your anxiety.
Belleenstein:

30+ years living with Crohn's.


Crohn'snme
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   Posted 4/10/2008 8:16 PM (GMT -7)   
PLEASE GO TO THE ER AND BE SEEN. You need to find out what's going on. Taking someone elses medicine isn't good. Please get some help with this. Concerned about you~!

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   Posted 4/10/2008 9:02 PM (GMT -7)   
I agree with Crohn'snme! If you check out physically fine....sounds like it could be a panic attack. My husband gets those and had one once he actually passed out driving his truck! GET HELP!
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Crohn'snme
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   Posted 4/11/2008 9:48 PM (GMT -7)   
Would love to hear how you are doing? Did you get checked out???? No pressure here, just concerned!

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   Posted 4/12/2008 12:44 PM (GMT -7)   
I think you do need to get checked out and get a full work up done. I do know of someone who was a cadet with me and was in peek physical condition (looked like King Leonidis in the 300) had a heart attack and died at 20. I found out that I have a small amount of paracardisis and inflammation around the heart and I am 29.
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John510
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   Posted 4/14/2008 10:09 AM (GMT -7)   
Hey guys thanks for the support. Im not really one for posting on the net but this place has been golden! Anyway this is still going on. Yesterday I was driving to the shore with some friends and it was happening real bad. I try to play it off buts it HARDD. Like I said I really dont get much support from my parents on anything medical wise. It sucks being 18 and still living at home but dont have the money to get an apartment right now. But yeah since I am still on my parents insurance and stuff if I tell them I need to go to the doctors and will brush it off and say im crazy or something. Im not going to lie I do drink a lot of beer on the weekends and smoke cigarettes but thats it and lots of college kids do that and dont have these weaird symptoms like me. Also it cant be a comedown from cocaine since I do not do that drug and never want to. I really dont know what to do lately I have been buying xanax bars from a friend just to get some sleep at night.
 
Oh yeah to make matter worse my girlfriend for 8 months just broke up with me and wants nothing to do with me anymore. This was the only girl I could ever see myself with. Anyway yeah now im rambling becuase it feels good but if you read this post thank you and Im a strong kid ill get through this.

Glad Bag
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   Posted 4/15/2008 10:03 AM (GMT -7)   
ah-hah.....you said the word....breakup. Relationships are a very common cause of anxiety, especially when you are having other health issues, something like that can be overwhelming. I really don't think you should be taking the Xanax unless you get your own doctor to prescribe it, like i said before, it is a pretty powerful medicine, and can give you effects even days after you have taken it. I would simply go to urgent care, and do your best to describe to the doctor what's going on in your life and with your body, if necessary, he can refer you to the mental health dept, after he rules out any heart issues....

i wasn't lying when I said I know lots of young people, and even some older ones, who have screwed themselves up from a mental health standpoint, by taking psychiatric meds without a doctor's monitoring.
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   Posted 4/15/2008 4:35 PM (GMT -7)   
Your in college right? Can't you go to health services for free w/o your parents knowing? PS: I hope I didn't insult you with the drug question.  I just remember you saying you were a young college kid looking to have fun... I figured I would mention it just to be safe.


26 Year old married female law student.  Diagnosed w/ CD 3 years ago, IBS for over 10 years before that, which was probably the CD.  I am sort of lactose intollerant too but can handle anything cultured and do well w/ lactose pills and lactaid.  For crohns I am currently on Pentasa 4 pills/4x day and hysociamine prn.  I also have bad acid reflux and have been on PPI's since age 13.  I have been through prilosec, prevacid, and nexium.  Currently I am on Protonix in the morning and Zantac at night.  I alos take a birth control pill to allow some fun in my life.
 
 


Crohn'snme
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   Posted 4/20/2008 8:25 PM (GMT -7)   
Hey, How about an update on how your doing??? Were you able to to be seen through the college? That was a good idea. Hope your doing well.

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   Posted 4/20/2008 9:06 PM (GMT -7)   
I also was diagnosed with Panic/Anxiety disorder.  I have had Crohn's disease and or Ulcerative Colitis for years.  The Panic disorder came from nowhere. It is miserabe.  My doctor gave me Zanax to take when I feel "it" coming on and so far, it works.  Good luck to you!! 

gachrons
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   Posted 4/21/2008 7:57 AM (GMT -7)   
Hi Break up's can be one of the hadest things to get over but as you said you are strong and time helps get over things. Hope your parents will be more supportive. Try doing something to take your mind off things. Was this a long relationship? In time you"ll probably find someone who is right for you and things will get better. lol gail

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   Posted 4/21/2008 12:46 PM (GMT -7)   
The first rule of psychology is to rule out any contributing or causing medical conditions.  There are many issues that could be causing anxiety-like symptoms;  medication interactions, substance use, heart problems, various endocrine disorders, and the list goes on.  Only a full medical workup, especially when you are experiencing symptoms, will help to narrow down the answer.  Taking unprescribed medication may mask the symptoms or make them worse.  You really should get  a good medical workup.  If it is anxiety, then  your doctor can decide the most effective medication for you, and it may not be the most easily available drug (but will probably cost you much less than buying it on the street).  Understanding the cause is the first step in getting good treatment, as many of us around here who waited years for a correct diagnosis can agree. Best wishes to you.  Take care of yourself.

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   Posted 4/21/2008 1:09 PM (GMT -7)   
I get this all the time and I have suffered with anxiety and panic for over 30 plus yrs
I think the crohns or any chronic ilness can and will do this
Just my opinion

Take care.......
I am on a med for the panic and anxiety.........Diazapam
You can check out A/P forum to se what is said there and if anything makes sounds familiar

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John510
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   Posted 4/21/2008 3:45 PM (GMT -7)   
Hey guys thanks for the support they have calmed down since and I am now sleeping at night. I know what it could of been from. The relationship was only 6 months but im over it now. The main thing was keeping me up all night but been able to get good sleep.  Thanks again and will def let a docotr know if things start back up.

Crohn'snme
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   Posted 4/22/2008 7:13 PM (GMT -7)   
So glad to hear it's better. Keep us updated on how your doing once in a while. Take care of yourself and enjoy school.

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   Posted 4/23/2008 3:51 PM (GMT -7)   
I just want to make you aware of one other thing that can cause these types of symptoms.  It's called PFO, patent foramen ovale, I believe.  It is a congenital heart problem that is not uncommon.  My husband had it and didn't know until he was in his 40s.  This PFO was causing mini strokes called TIAs.  They don't leave any lasting damage but his mimicked panic attacks sometimes and finally not being able to see out of one eye sent him to the emergency room.  The bad thing about TIAs is they often are a sign of a more serious stroke to come.  So personally I would feel better if you would go to an emergency room next time you have one of these.  Or at least go see a doctor in the mean time.  
 
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